Ittakestime Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: LOL....two games into his career. He was a consensus first round pick. He was projected to go as high as the top 10. So it's not just the Bills....it's like you're saying everyone involved in football didn't know except you. The guy made plays in the opener. I said he should be playing OLB and not MLB. He was being evaluated a LB. I think he could be a very good OLB where he doesn't need to run the whole D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: I said he should be playing OLB and not MLB. He was being evaluated a LB. I think he could be a very good OLB where he doesn't need to run the whole D. NFL.com https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tremaine-edmunds?id=32462018-0002-5600-62d0-412c60099aca Player comparison is Brian Urlacher....a MLB. Specifically said he can player anywhere, including edge rusher if certain sets. So two games in and you've already established him. Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: I thought he had a bad game......it looked like he was out of position a lot but to say that he sucks because he had a bad game? COME ON....he was our best defensive player in game 1 and made several plays......the bills are throwing him in the fire this year because they want him to learn from it. He played like crap. He knows it too. Doesn't really mean anything other than that it was a very bad game, and hopefully he learns from it. Edited September 17, 2018 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: NFL.com https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tremaine-edmunds?id=32462018-0002-5600-62d0-412c60099aca Player comparison is Brian Urlacher....a MLB. Specifically said he can player anywhere, including edge rusher if certain sets. So two games in and you've already established him. Good for you. I am going off his play at VT, so it is more than just two bad games. I'm not going to go off pre-draft scouting reports or comparisons. I could find thousands that are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 hours ago, PeterDude said: I don't like what I'm hearing. Overthinking, timid, soft tackling... Yuck! And they traded up for him too. Their draft trade ups have been **** so far, starting with Zay Jones. Yeah not looking good at all. Very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: I am going off his play at VT, so it is more than just two bad games. I'm not going to go off pre-draft scouting reports or comparisons. I could find thousands that are wrong. Do you have access to film at VT? Not highlights or broadcast view. The Eye in the Sky view. Like broke down hundreds of hours of film on him. Of course you can find a lot that are wrong but you can also find a lot that were right. I'm assuming that since you will not go off of pre-draft scouting reports, you've been 100% right on every single player you've scouted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 5 hours ago, PeterDude said: I don't like what I'm hearing. Overthinking, timid, soft tackling... Yuck! And they traded up for him too. Their draft trade ups have been **** so far, starting with Zay Jones. Ahem. Tredavius White. Dawkins. Starting CB and LT. Zay Jones. Starting WR. Josh Allen. Starting QB Edmunds. Starting MLB Phillips. Three man DT rotation. Johnson. Starting slot CB. All young, all starting, all learning, all should improve. Since Edmunds is being focused on, let me ask a question. On the second full day you had on your job (after your training sessions analogous to Edmunds preseason) were you perfect. Were you as good at your job that second day as you are now? Or did you improve as you gained experience? Be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 16 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Just a rookie guys. Just a barely 21 year old rookie... need to freakin' relax! If by the end of the season or the end of next season he's still making rookie mistakes, then there is something to worry about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Tremaine Edmunds learning on the fly as Buffalo Bills defense falters Rob Quinn - Cover 1 Tremaine Edmunds won’t be able to legally purchase a beer for another 10 months but despite being just 20-years old, the rookie has been trusted to lead the Buffalo Bills defense. The ‘Mike’ linebacker shoulders enormous responsibility, as he is responsible for communicating checks, play calls and essentially serving as the quarterback of the defense. But while the former Virginia Tech superstar has enormous potential, his transition to the NFL has been a bumpy road. After an impressive debut against the Baltimore Ravens, he had his “Welcome to the NFL, rookie” moment in Week 2 as Philip Rivers and the Los Angeles Chargers made a concerted effort to attack the young defender that Buffalo moved up to select with the No. 16 overall pick in the draft. Ken Whisenhut and the Chargers attacked Edmunds early and often in the passing game. Los Angeles using creative route concepts and multiple formations to either isolate the the 6-foot-5, 252-pound athletic phenom or make him defend the entire width of the field. He made his share of mistakes on his own, finding himself in poor position on a handful of occasions. But on the whole, it was a reminder that in the NFL, athleticism can only get you so far and Edmunds not showing the instincts or quick mental processing that he did in college is a perfect example of that. According to Pro Football Focus, Edmunds was targeted 11 times in pass coverage and he surrendered 10 receptions for 111 yards. Running backs Melvin Gordon and Austin Ekeler accounted for five of those catches for 54 yards and a score. Los Angeles often used motion to get Edmunds in man coverage versus one of their talented backs who ran wheel or flat routes. Here is an example of the Chargers forcing Edmunds to play sideline to sideline. He shows off his great speed to get to the flat and make the tackle, but Los Angeles was still able to pick up a chunk of yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Beane failed to provide Edmunds a mentor. He is doomed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, K-9 said: Beane failed to provide Edmunds a mentor. He is doomed. Lorenzo Alexander says "What!?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Lorenzo Alexander says "What!?!" Sorry, but only players who have played the same position and called the defensive signals can be mentors. That’s just how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Two games in and I'm still waiting for his first solid tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said: Two games in and I'm still waiting for his first solid tackle. Don't forced fumbles count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) On 9/17/2018 at 4:30 PM, TheBeane said: Just a barely 21 year old rookie... need to freakin' relax! If by the end of the season or the end of next season he's still making rookie mistakes, then there is something to worry about. Actually, he’s still only 20 years old, won’t turn 21 until next May 2. He can’t even buy a beer yet, people! Give him some time! Edited September 22, 2018 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 what played two game and not all pro Bust!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Two games in and I'm still waiting for his first solid tackle. The forced fumble was a nice play. He’s also had some nice passes defended. The highlights with McD there commenting were....highlights. ? I agree, for his size and speed, I haven’t seen him look like a serious thumper yet. Hopefully he gets more comfortable soon and can just play without having to think too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 ...yup...another 20 year old kid like Darnold hitting the big time and both are judged as potential busts or marginals.....sadly see the posting ranks thinning out when NFL clubs start taking our "best and the brightest" to fill exec positions that will assuredly lead them to the "promised land"...farewell brethren............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Augie said: The forced fumble was a nice play. He’s also had some nice passes defended. The highlights with McD there commenting were....highlights. ? I agree, for his size and speed, I haven’t seen him look like a serious thumper yet. Hopefully he gets more comfortable soon and can just play without having to think too much. I've heard anecdotally it's hard for rookies to put on weight their first year in the pros. I would imagine this offseason he's looking to gain maybe 10-15lbs muscle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I've heard anecdotally it's hard for rookies to put on weight their first year in the pros. I would imagine this offseason he's looking to gain maybe 10-15lbs muscle. Isn’t he listed at 250# already? He might have to go to DE! They may transform his body a bit, but need to keep the speed to do what they want of him, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: Isn’t he listed at 250# already? He might have to go to DE! They may transform his body a bit, but need to keep the speed to do what they want of him, I think. I was just wondering this. If he busts at MLB, where do they move him to OLB or DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) Dont forget that most of Edmund's training camp plays were against McCarron and Peterman. The young man had not yet seen QBs like Rivers. He will learn. A certain middle linebacker, who was picked 9th in the draft was so lost on opening day that he lost the starting position to Roosevelt Colvin and was kept on the sideline for a whole game. Only a freak injury to another player gave him playing time and, to cut a long story short, he hung his boots after 12 more years of stellar play and was recently enshrined in the HOF. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000916564/article/sources-tell-us-scout-amazed-by-urlacherlike-lb-edmunds Edited September 21, 2018 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I think he’d be better off at strong side backer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 4:41 PM, ******* said: Yeah he’s young yeah it’s preseason but yuck looks lost Why do stupid, uninformed, short, no-effort posts like this get serious responses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Augie said: Isn’t he listed at 250# already? He might have to go to DE! They may transform his body a bit, but need to keep the speed to do what they want of him, I think. I dunno, maybe it's his height but he looks on the slight side to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said: Don't forced fumbles count? An arm tackle because he over ran the play isn’t the kind of impactful hit I’m talking about. Edit...I’m probably being a bit harsh. He did contain the RB and forced him back inside. My point is still the same though. I want to see him head up on a RB, QB, TE, whoever and make a solid tackle. Edited September 22, 2018 by Cripple Creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 People keep suggesting that because he's young, he'll grow into this position.... I think it's just the opposite.... I think he's been out of position for a while now, and it's becoming more and more obvious that he's probably not an interior linebacker... I don't care, I'll say it... Tremaine can't shed blockers, can't diagnose, and isn't fast or physical enough to push through initial contact... I'd love it if he succeeded, but for the life of me I can't see it happening in the immediate future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Ten months still from drinking, wow. This guy would be young at a college program with redshirting a lot and guys graduating at 23 plus. School of hardknocks but he will be good in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 4:30 PM, TheBeane said: Just a barely 21 year old rookie... need to freakin' relax! If by the end of the season or the end of next season he's still making rookie mistakes, then there is something to worry about. A bit of patience is warranted. But there are only so many years under the rookie contract where players can contribute value way above the percentage of the salary cap they cost. I am not sure how great it is to spend those years waiting for players to age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Edmunds is getting a great education going up against good QBs and good offenses. This part of the “process” I endorse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 He is 20 years old, when things slow down some he will be a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I’m worried about Edmunds vs Cousins and that Vikings offense. He’s going to get tourched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 4 hours ago, wppete said: I’m worried about Edmunds vs Cousins and that Vikings offense. He’s going to get tourched. There's nothing to worry about in the short term. The worst case scenario is we lose a game. Defenses will take advantage of him all year and that's how he'll learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: There's nothing to worry about in the short term. The worst case scenario is we lose a game. Defenses will take advantage of him all year and that's how he'll learn. yep. He also has Bob Babich and McDermott as coaches. Both are excellent in coaching LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: He is 20 years old, when things slow down some he will be a beast. What if they never slow down and he just doesn't have a very high football IQ? That was the knock on him prior to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: What if they never slow down and he just doesn't have a very high football IQ? That was the knock on him prior to the draft. Then you chalk it up and move on to the next guy. That’s not obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: What if they never slow down and he just doesn't have a very high football IQ? That was the knock on him prior to the draft. Then we will draft another LB and move on I dont think that is gonna happen though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: What if they never slow down and he just doesn't have a very high football IQ? That was the knock on him prior to the draft. Then he will be on the long list of Bills whiffs. We will know our answer in a few years. Edited September 22, 2018 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 6 hours ago, wppete said: I’m worried about Edmunds vs Cousins and that Vikings offense. He’s going to get tourched. Unless the defense can gain some momentum from a great 2nd half . But yeah , Edmunds got absolutely bullied by the Chargers in the first half . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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