Tyrod's friend Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Buddy Hix said: This was what I saw too. The Chargers exposed Edmunds' inability to cover smaller/quicker backs and laid a blue print for every other team we are going to face. Coach Sal was also discussing this and seems to think it is a sign of his inexperience rather than it being because he is too big, but I have my doubts....Edmunds looked so bad I was embarrassed for him, he should not be starting in this league at the moment. He looked bad. Which NFL MLB do you think covers a quality, 340 catch slot receiver on that play? SD knew that TEd was cheating on running plays. Took advantage. We'll see if every other team will counter-attack what the HC did in the second half. But he looked consistently bad. 2 minutes ago, rodneykm said: Its literally the guys second NFL game. He'll be alright. The doom and gloom crowd is out in full force. Maybe. He's been in 6 contests and frankly I've seen two or four plays that indicate some ability and can counter that with around 20 or 30 that show he's not even in the vicinity of an NFL linebacker. I'm not a gloom and doom guy. I never even liked Josh Allen and I think he still shows potential. But you have to show us SOMETHING. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Yesterday was basically why I was saying during the pre-season that I didn't view Edmunds as an upgrade over Preston Brown in the short-term. Certainly has a world of potential, but he's just not there yet. Brown was very unspectacular, but he was an okay starter; Edmunds isn't yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 He’s still learning the angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Boys..I am really worried here. From my seats yesterday, seemed pretty apparent Rivers would identify #49s responsibility..and attack. lets hope he learns..cause he was BY FAR the worst player on the field yesterday..on both sides of the ball He's a 20 year old rookie in his second NFL start. You're better than this, man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: He's a 20 year old rookie in his second NFL start. You're better than this, man. Nope sorry, I think his story is finished. Time to trade him for a 6th and the panthers 5th string DT. Stick a fork in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, BillsMafia13 said: Nope sorry, I think his story is finished. Time to trade him for a 6th and the panthers 5th string DT. Stick a fork in him Sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Sarcasm? Big time. Criticism is justified and expected, but gd anyone complaining must have expected him to walk in as an all pro and play lights out on the worst team in the league day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, BillsMafia13 said: Big time. Criticism is justified and expected, but gd anyone complaining must have expected him to walk in as an all pro and play lights out on the worst team in the league day 1 Congratulations. You managed to avoid being the first in the great ignore campaign of 2018! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Congratulations. You managed to avoid being the first in the great ignore campaign of 2018! I care less than Jay Cutler cares about coral bleaching in New Zealand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, BillsMafia13 said: I care less than Jay Cutler cares about coral bleaching in New Zealand DON'T CAAAAAARE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Tale of two halves. Our entire defense has looked back for 6 out of the 8 quarters they've played so far. He was successfully schemed against all day. Wisenhunt was able to get Keenan Allen and Gordon in enough space to create the mismatch against Edmunds. We didn't figure out anything, anywhere until McDermott took over playcalling duties. We gave up 3 points in the 2nd half when we gave up 79 points in the first 6 quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 It seems like most people skipped over the draft report. He is a big athletic linebacker best suited for OLB. He is not a great tackler and really relies on his size to bring people down. They are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, rodneykm said: Its literally the guys second NFL game. He'll be alright. The doom and gloom crowd is out in full force. I am really surprised the team is starting him. It seems like someone his age should be brought along slowly behind an aging, but knowledgeable vet. The MLB market isn’t exactly expensive. It could’ve/should’ve been done that way. Edited September 17, 2018 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelchlsm Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Big athletic young 20 year old LB, should have a better pep in his step when covering people if he is so big athletic and young- rather than getting burned on every single play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 two games in and people are already impatient with rookies. awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 My labrador-retriever just signed a 2 year lease agreement on a beautiful soho loft with a random Tabby that had less than questionable credit. mass hysteria commeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 He has a lot to learn... but this year is going to have a lot of "teachable moments" for both him and Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Is Josh Allen expected to come out and look like an All Pro? I don’t think so. Neither is Edmunds. These guys are ROOKIES and are going to make ROOKIE mistakes. At this point I believe Edmunds may look a tad bit better than Allen at this point. AND THAT IS OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 50 minutes ago, teef said: two games in and people are already impatient with rookies. awesome. It's the new normal at TSW, but thankfully, the staff gave us an ignore feature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Boys..I am really worried here. From my seats yesterday, seemed pretty apparent Rivers would identify #49s responsibility..and attack. lets hope he learns..cause he was BY FAR the worst player on the field yesterday..on both sides of the ball Coverage scheme had him manning up on Keenan Allen in the slot repeatedly in the first half. What linebacker in the NFL aside from maybe Miles Jack should ever be doing that? They took it away in the second half. Edited September 17, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: We gave up 3 points in the 2nd half when we gave up 79 points in the first 6 quarters. The Chargers were up many scores, it's natural for a team to letup a bit when way ahead. That probably has a lot more to do with the defense looking better in the second half than anything McClappity did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Coverage scheme has him manning up on Keenan Allen in the slot repeatedly. What linebacker in the NFL aside from maybe Miles Jack should ever be doing that? It was zone. He's there to make the tackle and minimize the gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDD Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Right now he should be learning the game and coming in on blitz packages, however, the Bills are in a position where they have thrown him in there and he needs to learn on the fly. His poor tackling is an issue. He takes the wrong angle a lot and then when he doesn't he can't always make the tackle. His sideline to sideline speed and pursuit capabilities are great. He needs to get in the film room and study. His raw talent is evident. The Bills will find room for him somewhere, I'm not worried about the man, I'm worried about the man playing that particular position. As far as guarding Allen in the slot, that is a defensive design flaw and the Bills have been exposed there for years. When that mismatch occurs, it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, PeterDude said: The Chargers were up many scores, it's natural for a team to letup a bit when way ahead. That probably has a lot more to do with the defense looking better in the second half than anything McClappity did. I don't think they let up that much especially when we got within a couple scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 He looks very timid out there. Not a good look for MLB. Very concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, wppete said: He looks very timid out there. Not a good look for MLB. Very concerning. He's still learning i think. I'd like to see more killer instinct and commitment. If you get beat on PA, you get beat - try and recover. He's trying to diagnose and getting caught in no mans land. The run and the pass work in that situation. I always look at it like this. In zone - if you are covering someone, you're probably doing something right. If you're watching stuff go by, you need to get your head on straight and move your feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, PeterDude said: The Chargers were up many scores, it's natural for a team to letup a bit when way ahead. That probably has a lot more to do with the defense looking better in the second half than anything McClappity did. We scored on the first drive after half time and were down 28-13 with about 12 minutes left in the 3rd. Do you think Lynn really let up and wanted to punt, punt and punt the entire 2nd half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I wouldn’t say I’m worried about Edmunds yet, but I have to question why a team devoid of talent would trade multiple picks for one player. Some lineman would be looking good right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 His tackling is soft which is pretty concerning for any lb much less a first found mlb. Right now he is thinking too much though. Hopefully the more time he gets, his instincts will start taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Rockpile233 said: I wouldn’t say I’m worried about Edmunds yet, but I have to question why a team devoid of talent would trade multiple picks for one player. Some lineman would be looking good right now... Couldve had Evans at 22 and a lineman at 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: His tackling is soft which is pretty concerning for any lb much less a first found mlb. Right now he is thinking too much though. Hopefully the more time he gets, his instincts will start taking over. I don't like what I'm hearing. Overthinking, timid, soft tackling... Yuck! And they traded up for him too. Their draft trade ups have been **** so far, starting with Zay Jones. Edited September 17, 2018 by PeterDude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, PeterDude said: I don't like what I'm hearing. Overthinking, timid, soft tackling... Yuck! And they traded up for him too. Their draft trade ups have been **** so far, starting with Zay Jones. Welcome to the purge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Dude is 20 years old, playing the most demanding position on the defense. He's doing fine. Had a couple TFL's yesterday, made some solid plays. He's gonna get torched from time-to-time, even veteran MLB's have that happen. I like what I see so far. So lighten up, Francis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Frazier was doing him no favors with the calls in the first half. There's no reason he should be checking WRs consistently. That's bad playcalling on the defense's part, wrong personnel packages. Seemed to improve a bit in the second half where it seems like McDermott started calling the plays on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Exactly what I said in April. I'm baffled if this regime actually watches football games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Exactly what I said in April. I'm baffled if this regime actually watches football games. That's scary..... quick - what are tonight's lottery numbers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistingBot Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Tremaine has never played middle linebacker, so it'll take time for him to learn the position. Virginia Tech plays essentially a 4-2-5 scheme. Tremaine played the Backer position (not the Mike) and in Tech's scheme the Backer is more like a SAM linebacker in a pro 4-3. I know this because I've had season tickets at Tech for the past 2+ decades. I don't disagree that he looks lost at times, but give the kid time to learn a new position. If he is still lost at the end of the season then I think he could easily be moved outside (either SAM or Will). He has the size and speed to play any one of the linebacker spots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, dneveu said: It was zone. He's there to make the tackle and minimize the gain. I thought he had a bad game......it looked like he was out of position a lot but to say that he sucks because he had a bad game? COME ON....he was our best defensive player in game 1 and made several plays......the bills are throwing him in the fire this year because they want him to learn from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Exactly what I said in April. I'm baffled if this regime actually watches football games. LOL....two games into his career. He was a consensus first round pick. He was projected to go as high as the top 10. So it's not just the Bills....it's like you're saying everyone involved in football didn't know except you. The guy made plays in the opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Exactly what I said in April. I'm baffled if this regime actually watches football games. Do you think that one bad game suddenly makes you right? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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