Bills trade with Browns for Corey Coleman

[BurpleBull]

I don't think Coleman was brought in with the hopes of him materializing into a WR1 or WR2; I think he was brought in to keep defenses honest, but more importantly to help Kelvin Benjamin and the offense out on the outside with his speed, when Benjamin's working from the slot.

 

I see Coleman as having the most value as a slot guy. 

 

He also has value as a KR and you know how McDermott feels about having guys that can contribute on special teams.

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[MAJBobby]

Perspective also from @Pat_Thurman off that twitter thing 

 

Corey Coleman QBs:

 

Kizer: 8.5 games

RGIII: 5 games

McCown: 2 games

Kessler: 1 game

McCown/Kessler: 2 games

 

(2 full games w/ McCown: 13 tgt, 8 rec, 142 yds, 3 TD)

 

A couple fluke injuries and a QB clowncar in a 1-31 circus. 

Edited August 6, 2018 by MAJBobby

[YoloinOhio]

9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Did that tweet above say we took Pryor off their hands? When did that happen? Is this the Mandela Effect happening right before our eyes?

The tweet says “Poyer”

 

 

5 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

I don't think Coleman was brought in with the hopes of him materializing into a WR1 or WR2; I think he was brought in to keep defenses honest, but more importantly to help Kelvin Benjamin and the offense out on the outside with his speed, when Benjamin's working from the slot.

 

I see Coleman as having the most value as a slot guy. 

 

He also has value as a KR and you know how McDermott feels about having guys that can contribute on special teams.

Yep he’s a low risk, potentially high reward Goodwin replacement 

 

Edited August 6, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[26CornerBlitz]

ICYMI

 

[Bills Pimpin']

2020 7th rounder. ???. That's basically free. 

 

[blacklabel]

7th round pick is the compensation. This trade is a win.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[JinxedBill1]

Flyer on 1st round talent with base salary for 2 more years for a 7th round pick and the 5th yr option potentially?

 

Sounds to me like a slam dunk trade.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

HC and FO positions definitely age you.  That gray is starting to get more and more with Beane.  

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, JinxedBill1 said:

Flyer on 1st round talent with base salary for 2 more years for a 7th round pick and the 5th yr option potentially?

 

Sounds to me like a slam dunk trade.

 

Easily.

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said:

2020 7th rounder. ???. That's basically free. 

 

 

Beane is a witch, no other explanation 

[cle23]

A Browns writer is saying this is more about moving on than the compensation. Basically said that issues extend back to last year and that isn't wasn't entirely performance based.

 

I've heard a lot that Coleman is lazy and didn't know the playbook. The ability is there but not always the mental part.

[dgrochester55]

9 hours ago, matter2003 said:

A late round pick surely doesnt sound like overpaying...

 

 

 Agreed, it was a good deal.  It didn't say what they traded for at the time that I posted the message.

[Wayne Cubed]

3 minutes ago, cle23 said:

A Browns writer is saying this is more about moving on than the compensation. Basically said that issues extend back to last year and that isn't wasn't entirely performance based.

 

I've heard a lot that Coleman is lazy and didn't know the playbook. The ability is there but not always the mental part.

 

I mean the Browns drafted Coleman and then gave him:

 

Kizer

RGIII

McCown

Kessler

 

As his QBs, one could argue the QB was never there, nevermind the mental bit.

[teef]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

Well, I'm sorry if I deal with reality rather than pretending that the Bills situation, past and present, is all rainbows and unicorns.

 

ok.  let's not play this game.  there's a striking difference between a realist and someone who is down right miserable.  guess which side of the coin you're on?it's understandable to be down on this team, but you're a different creature.  you literally can't find a single thing to be positive/happy about with the team you're supposedly a fan of.  you have an act, it's old, and i can only imagine who you are off the internet.  lighten up sweetheart.  i just can't wrap my head around someone who is so bitter toward something that should be entertainment.  turn off the tears, loosen up, and have some fun.  you need a drink or something.

Edited August 6, 2018 by teef

[Bills Pimpin']

5 minutes ago, cle23 said:

A Browns writer is saying this is more about moving on than the compensation. Basically said that issues extend back to last year and that isn't wasn't entirely performance based.

 

I've heard a lot that Coleman is lazy and didn't know the playbook. The ability is there but not always the mental part.

Some or all of this has got to be true, but if a first round pick can't be motivated by being traded for basically a bag of footballs then I don't know what will. And if he doesn't it's gonna cost the Bills about 4 million dollars over 2 years which is pennys in the big picture.

[CNY315]

 

[Bills Pimpin']

2 minutes ago, teef said:

ok.  let's not play this game.  there's a striking difference between a realist and someone who is down right miserable.  guess which side of the coin you're on.  it's understandable to be down on this team, but you're a different creature.  you literally can't find a single thing to be positive/happy about with the team you're supposedly a fan of.  you have an act, it's old, and i can only imagine who you are off the internet.  lighten up sweetheart.  i just can't wrap my head around someone who is so bitter toward something that should be entertainment.  turn off the tears, loosen up, and have some fun.  you need a drink or something.

Thanks Teef. 

[nucci]

1 minute ago, teef said:

ok.  let's not play this game.  there's a striking difference between a realist and someone who is down right miserable.  guess which side of the coin you're on.  it's understandable to be down on this team, but you're a different creature.  you literally can't find a single thing to be positive/happy about with the team you're supposedly a fan of.  you have an act, it's old, and i can only imagine who you are off the internet.  lighten up sweetheart.  i just can't wrap my head around someone who is so bitter toward something that should be entertainment.  turn off the tears, loosen up, and have some fun.  you need a drink or something.

actually, i don't understand why someone would be down on the team at this point...if we were 0-6 I can see that but the team has added some talent...defense expects to be better and even though some don't believe this....we are coming off a playoff season...

[HappyDays]

I'm more meh on the trade than others are but I can't complain for a 7th in 2020. Browns fans on Twitter mostly hate the trade and think he was putting together a good training camp this year. The big question with Coleman is can he stay healthy?

[GunnerBill]

33 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Even if he comes in and puts up 56 catches for 718 and a 12.8 ypc with 5 TDs in 19 games over a two year period that is perfectly fine production for a 7th round pick. 

 

That is much better than average 7th rounder production.  

[stuvian]

my only reservation is that he is from Baylor which by all accounts is a thug program

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[mannc]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

On a Side Note McBeane and Dorsey officially are Officially trade buds 

 

Mahommes Trade 

Tyrod Trade

Coleman Trade 

Ragland trade?

[dollars 2 donuts]

22 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

HC and FO positions definitely age you.  That gray is starting to get more and more with Beane.  

 

 

Umm, excuse me?  That is silver, not gray, and there is a rumor going around that when it is cut it turns to gold and that small starving children gather it up and sell it to Airport Plaza Jewelers so that they may feed their families.

 

It's called the Internet, Royale, maybe you could use it every once in awhile and check your facts.

Edited August 6, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, GG said:

 

There have to be questions about why the price is so low

 

I would usually guess salary cap, even on his rookie contract Coleman is overpaid for what he's actually done on the field. But the Browns don't need a lot of salary cap for 2 or 3 years so I think they're just trying to let their other receivers have a shot. Their 4th round pick Antonio Calloway has looked good.

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, mannc said:

Ragland trade?

 

Dorsey was out in KC by then.  

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, stuvian said:

my only reservation is that he is from Baylor which by all accounts is a thug program

They have had their issues. However, not everyone in the program or from the program is a thug.

[26CornerBlitz]

One man's opinion.

 

[CBD]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I would usually guess salary cap, even on his rookie contract Coleman is overpaid for what he's actually done on the field. But the Browns don't need a lot of salary cap for 2 or 3 years so I think they're just trying to let their other receivers have a shot. Their 4th round pick Antonio Calloway has looked good.

It's only like $1.5M. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[FLFan]

14 minutes ago, nucci said:

actually, i don't understand why someone would be down on the team at this point...if we were 0-6 I can see that but the team has added some talent...defense expects to be better and even though some don't believe this....we are coming off a playoff season...

You must only be looking at the unicorns and rainbows through your rose colored fan boy glasses.  ?

[Bill_with_it]

11 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Whaley traded for Jerry Hughes and LeSean McCoy.  Why does everyone always have to put someone Dow to praise someone?  

Jerry Hughes was under the nap time gm. Check the dates. Chip Kelly called Whaley. Whaley has to answer the phone. That isn’t hard. Nice try. Whaley stink and his stench is almost gone.

10 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

You're an idiot. 

That’s cute...

Edited August 6, 2018 by Bill_with_it

[Cripple Creek]

Nobody can possibly quibble about this trade. A 2020 7th round pick is bupkis. He works out? Fantastic. He doesn’t? Big effin deal.

[Royale with Cheese]

17 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Umm, excuse me?  That is silver, not gray, and there is a rumor going around that when it is cut it turns to gold and that small starving children gather it up and sell it to Airport Plaza Jewelers so that they may feed their families.

 

It's called the Internet, Royale, maybe you could use it every once in awhile and check your facts.

 

I'm starting to get silver on the left side of my face.  If I don't shave for a few days, you really notice it.  It's not salt and pepper because that's like a mixed pattern.

Mine is dark everywhere with a patch of silver.

[dollars 2 donuts]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I'm starting to get silver on the left side of my face.  If I don't shave for a few days, you really notice it.  It's not salt and pepper because that's like a mixed pattern.

Mine is dark everywhere with a patch of silver.

 

Royale, consider yourself lucky, my friend.

 

I have silver on my temples, chest, arms and back...maybe on my butt, too, however it is difficult for me to tell.  Fortunately, the top of my head appears to be a basic olive skin toned color, so that's staying young.

Edited August 6, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts

[teef]

26 minutes ago, nucci said:

actually, i don't understand why someone would be down on the team at this point...if we were 0-6 I can see that but the team has added some talent...defense expects to be better and even though some don't believe this....we are coming off a playoff season...

i'm with you.  i'm optimistic.  why wouldn't someone be?  what the new staff is trying to pull off may not work, but there's a definite philosophy they're sticking to.  even if this team takes a step back this year, it won't necessarily be a bad thing.  there's hopefully an evolution going on here, and i hope certain members are willing to be patient and enjoy the ride.

[JerseyBills]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Very good comparison, similar attributes, it all came together for Agholor in year 3. Whether Coleman does or doesn't put it all together , for a 7th , I take that all day with the Bills WR.

If him and/or Zay can reach their potential , this wr corps is suddenly good-looking very good, assuming KB stays healthy

[Chuck Wagon]

WR seems to be the position that takes a moment to "get it" at the NFL level, especially a guy like Coleman who ran a very limited route tree at Baylor.  We are "building the basketball team" we did not have someone with Coleman's upside/skill set.  I think it's a great gamble at the price.