The Jokeman Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 37 minutes ago, cle23 said: Having Taylor changes absolutely nothing about pick 1. Yes and no, by having Taylor the Browns might be willing to take a project QB like Allen vs a more ready guy like Rosen, Darnold or Mayfield if they're enamored with physical traits that Allen shows. I've said it before look at Cleveland's GM who picked the QB for the Chiefs last year, he was a big guy with a big arm and good legs. Sounds a lot like Allen to me and the Browns have their bridge QB in Taylor to play the Alex Smith role this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Leadership and work ethic were never the problem with Tyrod. Now if he starts throwing for >200 yards per game or tallying some comeback victories, THAT'LL turn some heads. Edited April 19, 2018 by Logic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Cleveland can waive every WR on the roster, just wasting cap space No - because the ROOKIE QB THEY WILL DRAFT will be starting before the end of the season, and he will need those WRs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Cleveland can waive every WR on the roster, just wasting cap space When the Bills had two NFL-grade receivers playing - the 15 games with Woods and Watkins on the field with Taylor - this happened : 63.6% comp. 8.25 YPA. 27 TD passes. 6 Ints When the Bills fielded cripples, cast-offs, practice squad rejects, and a rookie like a deer in the headlights - then less so, I admit. The Browns have receivers and don't intend to waive them. Let's see what happens........ Edited April 19, 2018 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) I read the thread title, and figured Tyrod was just repping the eyeglass frames again. Edited April 19, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 It's Tyrod, not Tyron, dummy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: It's not literally true, but it's really not that far away. For every turnover he didn't throw there was a play that even an average QB would have made that he left on the field. You can cost your team in many other ways than just turnovers. Your idea of an average QB is extremely flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 51 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: No surprise, Tyrod is a good leader and a hard worker. I agree 100% Now QB........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, MURPHD6 said: Your idea of an average QB is extremely flawed. It's flawed...yet you don't know what my idea of average is. Very interesting counter point you have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 43 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: No one has ever justly criticized Tyrod's work ethic or leadership. I really don't want to go down the "defending TT" rabbit hole, but you must know that's literally not true. Probably true. And what will we be doing in B'lo? What Buffalo will be doing is the same thing that Cleveland will be doing i.e. Using a high pick to draft a long term franchise qb. Few people have ever criticized Taylor for his work ethic, leadership and character. I really can't recall it ever being an issue even from the detractors. The Bills got a good return with the trade to Cleveland. Cleveland paid a reasonable price to get their bridge qb. The situation he is in Cleveland is much better than it would be if he stayed with the Bills. He being dealt was the right thing for the Bills and the right thing for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: the 2nd half of the Charger game. Game was lost so he was just out there. A lot less pressure on him to be careful and he slung it around pretty well. The guy can play...when he plays. The Tennessee game that he basically won by himself...another example of what he could be. wasn't there a fumble like dealy?....with a bad outcome/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, grb said: When the Bills had two NFL-grade receivers playing - the 15 games with Woods and Watkins on the field with Taylor - this happened : 63.6% comp. 8.25 YPA. 27 TD passes. 6 Ints When the Bills fielded cripples, cast-offs, practice squad rejects, and a rookie like a deer in the headlights - then less so, I admit. The Browns have receivers and don't intend to waive them. Let's see what happens........ Jordan Matthews had one of the best three years to start a career in Philly yet struggled with Tyrod, Marques Goodwin looked miles better with the QBs in San Francisco last year, heck Chris Hogan has become a starter in New England. Coincidence? Maybe not look back on that 2016 season again we won only 1 game where he threw for over 240 yards in, so was he the reason for our winning or inspite of him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, billsredneck1 said: wasn't there a fumble like dealy?....with a bad outcome/ Yea, he turned the ball over but was actually playing and not being conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, JohnC said: What Buffalo will be doing is the same thing that Cleveland will be doing i.e. Using a high pick to draft a long term franchise qb. Few people have ever criticized Taylor for his work ethic, leadership and character. I really can't recall it ever being an issue even from the detractors. The Bills got a good return with the trade to Cleveland. Cleveland paid a reasonable price to get their bridge qb. The situation he is in Cleveland is much better than it would be if he stayed with the Bills. He being dealt was the right thing for the Bills and the right thing for him. I agree with all of the above. Here is the context of the bolded text you're responding to. What is your answer in this context? 56 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Eventually they will actually play football. They will see he (TT) doesn't move an offense. Holds the ball too long. Plays way too conservative. And they will yell and scream to play the rookie. 54 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Probably true. And what will we be doing in B'lo? Your answer in context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, Tcali said: My advice to Cleveland...never get behind in a game. Ask Jameis Winston to vouch for that strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I agree with all of the above. Here is the context of the bolded text you're responding to. What is your answer in this context? Your answer in context? I don't understand your response about the context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 50 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: In a shocking development, in-house Cleveland Browns writer heaps praise on new QB his bosses just signed. Did they hire Chris Browns........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: Ask Jameis Winston to vouch for that strategy. Hes done it here or there but he’s been bad the majority of crunch time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I think some of you forget about much different he was with Sammy out there. If they get any semblance of a running game, with Landry and Gordon, I expect to see a better TT there. He won’t light the world on fire, but he’ll make some plays that will make you miss him a little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 redog is loving this..ain't been a tyrod thread in so long.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, grb said: When the Bills had two NFL-grade receivers playing - the 15 games with Woods and Watkins on the field with Taylor - this happened : 63.6% comp. 8.25 YPA. 27 TD passes. 6 Ints When the Bills fielded cripples, cast-offs, practice squad rejects, and a rookie like a deer in the headlights - then less so, I admit. The Browns have receivers and don't intend to waive them. Let's see what happens........ Bench by week 10. Steelers/Ravens take turns embarrassing the Cleveland offense. 55 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: My prediction: Bills will rue the day they traded Hotrod to the Clowns. Might want to check out his putrid games vs Ravens and Steelers. Hes gonna be terrible for them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, grb said: When the Bills had two NFL-grade receivers playing - the 15 games with Woods and Watkins on the field with Taylor - this happened : 63.6% comp. 8.25 YPA. 27 TD passes. 6 Ints When the Bills fielded cripples, cast-offs, practice squad rejects, and a rookie like a deer in the headlights - then less so, I admit. The Browns have receivers and don't intend to waive them. Let's see what happens........ Guys that can win deep like Harvin and Sammy outside complimented him well. I get moving on, but I liked the floor at the position. Now we are back to having no clue what we will see at QB this year. Edited April 19, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Teddy KGB said: Bench by week 10. Steelers/Ravens take turns embarrassing the Cleveland offense. Might want to check out his putrid games vs Ravens and Steelers. Hes gonna be terrible for them. Maybe we should bring back EJ. He put a whoop on the Super Bowl defending Ravens in 2014. I was at that Stealers game and it was the worst display of defense and tackling I have seen in decades of watching NFL Football. Offense was not so good either. As Rex was leaving the stadium after the game, he bumped into a little old lady. He tipped his Bills camp and said "No offense mam" to which she replied "NO DAMN DEFENSE EITHER!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The thing is, in Buffalo we have been 8-8 (+/-1) for 4 years. Before that we were 6-10 (-2) for 5 years and 7-9 (+/-2) for 5 years. We have been mediocre for a long, long time. So mediocrity has become tiresome to us. It's been 4 years since the Browns enjoyed the comfort of 7-9 mediocrity. They've been Bad. So it's possible that if Taylor returns them to mediocrity, they'll be all encouraged and happy. Mediocrity isn't tiresome to them. Yet. ....3-46 is definitely within their sights IMO.....Hugh said so...uh oh............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: Too bad he never turned heads with his ability to fit it into tight windows Or understanding how the play clock works when his team trails late in the game. 12 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Bench by week 10. Steelers/Ravens take turns embarrassing the Cleveland offense. Might want to check out his putrid games vs Ravens and Steelers. Hes gonna be terrible for them. I agree, this board underestimates how putrid he will play against AFC North opponents. His track record against them is terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Those heads will get locked in place. Thank God we can play with the likes of EJ and Taylor and don't have to watch them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: No surprise, Tyrod is a good leader and a hard worker. Exactly there wasn't a problem with that part of his game he was a great locker room guy but he just couldn't get it together on the field his decision making was slow & accuracy was a question . I only hope that it wasn't coaching like in some other instances with players that have left the Bills & he goes there & turns into a player we never saw while he was here !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, T master said: Exactly there wasn't a problem with that part of his game he was a great locker room guy but he just couldn't get it together on the field his decision making was slow & accuracy was a question . I only hope that it wasn't coaching like in some other instances with players that have left the Bills & he goes there & turns into a player we never saw while he was here !! If he plays there just like he did here, he'll be the best QB they've had in a decade and a half just like he was for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I am sure Cleveland fans will be impressed by Tyrod's drive and work ethic. I know I was very impressed by it when Tyrod first got here. I wish him well in Cleveland. I think he could do well there, and hope he does. He definitely has weapons on offense. I feel pretty safe saying that Cleveland will definitely win more than 1 game this year! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: No surprise, Tyrod is a good leader and a hard worker. ....until you're down by 7 in the 4th qtr....good luck with renting TT for 1 year Browns. If Cleveland doesn't take Darnold and Chubb, they deserve to suck for another decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Taylor is everything you want in a leader until the game starts . Who know maybe hue can't get him to throw the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, jo39416 said: My GF turns heads in Cleveland. Shes a 9 there, 4 everywhere else. I hope she never checks this site! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Da webster guy said: give him an OC who lets him throw deep again and watch him kickass. He didn't kick ass when we let him throw deep. He was better but ultimately still below-average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 He will go from turning heads to turning stomachs once games start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyK Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 IMO TT will do well with the Browns, He will lead them to 5-8 wins and the Browns fans will love him. There will be high-lights of him scrabbling and making a big play and this board will still be arguing over him. He is what he is, a good QB in the average-mid-of-the pack-type. He will help an ok to bad team win or be in the game, but is not a top tier QB. I like him but it was time to move on for the Bills. TT is a class act and in that way might be missed as our QB(s) try to make their mark! I wish TT well and hope they/he do well, but I hope the bills do even better and nail the QB position we have waited long enough!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: No surprise, Tyrod is a good leader and a hard worker. indeed. despite having been " exposed" during his tenure here in buffalo, tyrod has many strengths and is a great guy to have on your team. if the OC is willing to design an offense that is suited towards his strengths, there is no reason that they cannot succeed. especially with the talent that the browns seem to be accumulating. and i still wish him nothing but the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Tyrod always looks good until it comes time to pull the trigger. It’s a long way from that Edited April 20, 2018 by BananaB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Bench by week 10. Steelers/Ravens take turns embarrassing the Cleveland offense. Depending upon the Browns QB draft choice, might not start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Virgil said: I think some of you forget about much different he was with Sammy out there. If they get any semblance of a running game, with Landry and Gordon, I expect to see a better TT there. He won’t light the world on fire, but he’ll make some plays that will make you miss him a little. Nicely put Mister Virgil! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: In a shocking development, in-house Cleveland Browns writer heaps praise on new QB his bosses just signed. Chris Brownie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, reddogblitz said: If he plays there just like he did here, he'll be the best QB they've had in a decade and a half just like he was for us. Going from bad to the textbook defenition of outright average is technically an improvement, but not a success. I want better then average, and TT is average. Precious little terrible, precious little amazing. We've finally outgrown that, Cleveland hasn't. They will be thrilled when he gets them to 8-8 eventually, then they will move on like we did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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