Gugny Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 Irrelevant to the question. You say the writing is on the wall, you're not pot stirring, it just makes sense. Don't change the subject or try to divert it to make other folks explain - you're the one saying it makes sense that Cam will come to B'lo, you explain why in your opinion it makes sense. Otherwise, you ARE pot-stirring How is it not relevant, Watson? It's the same two teams. Buffalo just traded for Carolina's 2nd biggest offensive weapon. I'm opining that they'll go after their best offensive weapon. It makes sense because Beane and McDermott have a history. It makes sense because Buffalo has no clear direction (clear to us) with regard to the long term future of the QB. It makes sense because it's pretty clear that this "strong class of 2018" QBs ain't so strong, after all. It makes sense because Beane has stocked up on draft picks. So don't sit there and try to tell me my motives, Mr. Kyle Williams mancrush boy. It's a !@#$ing opinion. If you don't like it, go rub one out to your KW fathead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 But I love gladiator movies! This would be even better if the suit was optional I'd be down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Isn't KW fathead redundant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Man, I hate this crap.TT is and should be our QB for the foreseeable future. He's good and getting better. If we happen upon a franchise guy in the draft, great. Don't want to trade for another QB unless it's Watson or Wentz. Maybe Rodgers if he comes back completely healthy. Trading for an old QB like Brees never works out for the new team. Edited November 1, 2017 by Domdab99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Is there a bigger douchebag QB in the NFL starting today? I don't think so. Why would the Bills want a "me" guy anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Man, I hate this crap.TT is and should be our QB for the foreseeable future. He's good and getting better. If we happen upon a franchise guy in the draft, great. Don't want to trade for another QB unless it's Watson or Wentz. Maybe Rodgers if he comes back completely healthy. Trading for an old QB like Brees never works out for the new team. I wanna take comments like these and save them for the future. Like with Fitzpatrick Everyone was so quick to get rid of him. And a few wanted to keep him until we had a better option. Then we got rid of him and had Orton and Manuel and people missed Fitzpatrick. I have a feeling this will be similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I honestly would rather get Olsen and keep Tyrod, then have Cam and no tyrod/olsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I have no link. This is just my opinion. It just makes sense. Beane is cherry-picking the best Panthers. He's cleared the money. I think Cam's gonna be a Bill. I don't see it. Newton is pretty good but he's not in the same league as Rodgers, Brady, Brees or even Wilson who was drafted two rounds after him. Teams don't trade true franchise QBs ... even if they lack fashion sense ... so that would be the first hint that Carolina, the team that knows him best, thinks he'll never improve only decline. Keep Tyrod and give a youngster a shot in the upcoming draft ... or the next one. Cam Newton isn't the next Jim Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Will never happen, and I'm OK with that. I'm not much of a Cam Newton guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Nope, Cam's antics wouldn't fly here. Great athlete, very good QB, but doesn't fit the mold around here. He's very childish at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Is there a bigger douchebag QB in the NFL starting today? I don't think so. Why would the Bills want a "me" guy anyways? Not a team guy. That SB showed that. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Cam is not coming. He's not even breathing hard. But seriously. No friggin' way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Tyrod is playing better than Cam in 2017. Tyrod played better than Cam in 2016. Why would the Bills downgrade at QB? If people hate Tyrod I wonder what the board would look like when Cam goes for 154 1 td and 1int like he did this week. How about 211 and 0 tds/2ints like last week? 239 1td and 3 ints like 3 weeks ago? So for those keeping track at home that is 604 passing yards, 2 tds and 6 ints in his last 3 games. This is a 'franchise qb?" For comparison (i'll save you the work) Tyrod: 599 yards, 4tds, 1int. You would trade +5 yards over 3 games for -2 tds and +5 ints? I hope that isn't the process! In case you think I am just using a small sample. Since the start of 2016: Cam 5964 yards, 37 tds, 25 ints, 923 combined rush/pass attempts Tyrod 5121 yards, 32 tds, 8 ints, 533 combined rush/pass attempts So 400 more attempts: 840 more yards (2.1 yards per each attempt when Tyrod averages 9.6 ypa), 5 more tds (1 for every 40 attempts - Tyrod averages 1 every 16), and 17 more ints (1 every 36 attempts Tyrod averages 1 every 66 attempt). Cam has sucked since the start of last year. Super Bowl hangover is still going on almost 2 years later (I fully admit injury contributes this year). Edited November 1, 2017 by section122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 He's rubbish too. Did you see the Cowboys game? Cousins isn't rubbish (I wouldn't judge him by his performance in that monsoon, with most of his line injured). But he will be vastly overpaid next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Christ I hope not. His gutless and lackluster SB performance underscores why he'd never make it in B-lo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 No thanks. Dont want that cry baby anywhere near my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I have no link. This is just my opinion. It just makes sense. Beane is cherry-picking the best Panthers. He's cleared the money. I think Cam's gonna be a Bill. McD does not want gungies on team, he wants team players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I'd like Cousins as a FA; other than that it's draft a QB to eventually replace Tyrod. Though Cousins on Denver or Jacksonville makes them a SB contender imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Too inconsistent for my liking. He's had top 10 defenses his whole career and only went on 1 run. Taylor will have his first top 10 D and does a better job leading and PLAYING WITHIN THE SCHEMEBuffalo Rumblings has a good article talking about the percentage of balls thrown by Cam to Benjamin that were catchable, etc. "Cam Newton led all passers with 17 percent of his passes overthrown, and that number would have been higher without Benjamin's tough catches. Based on our breakdown of incomplete passes in game charting, 27.0 percent of Benjamin's targets were deemed uncatchable (27th-most). For comparison, only 16.2 percent of Beckham's targets were uncatchable (81st). Benjamin had 15 above-the-head grabs among his first 40 catches of the season, an absurd rate. He finished with 19, second only to Beckham's 20. His season percentage of catches caught above the head (26.0 percent) is nearly three times higher than the average studied (9.2 percent)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Buffalo Rumblings has a good article talking about the percentage of balls thrown by Cam to Benjamin that were catchable, etc. "Cam Newton led all passers with 17 percent of his passes overthrown, and that number would have been higher without Benjamin's tough catches. Based on our breakdown of incomplete passes in game charting, 27.0 percent of Benjamin's targets were deemed uncatchable (27th-most). For comparison, only 16.2 percent of Beckham's targets were uncatchable (81st). Benjamin had 15 above-the-head grabs among his first 40 catches of the season, an absurd rate. He finished with 19, second only to Beckham's 20. His season percentage of catches caught above the head (26.0 percent) is nearly three times higher than the average studied (9.2 percent)." This is why I think Cam will regress further with Benjamin gone. The league has figured out how to play him and his game hasn t evolved, he is still inaccurate. He was terrible last year and terrible this year so far, 10 tds and 11 int., not to mention his childish antics at the podium. Why would the Bills want that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 It would be fun to see him vs. Sullivan in press conferences. But he's not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Connecting dots. I dont think Cam is that big of an upgrade over Tyrod. Cam had one great season. Other than that season in 2015 Cam and Tyrod are very similar. I would rather draft a young QB and keep building the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I disagree. They will decide after the season and Taylor is playing well. Peterman may yet win the job or they draft the heir apparent. I think all of those things are more likely than Cam coming to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Franchise QB's almost never leave. There is zero chance he leaves Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) He just kept throwing interceptions. Had 2 called back on one drive then threw another right afterwards. Having watched the game and looking at the circumstances of things going on around him, I thought he actually played really well and was the reason the Skins didnt get blown out by 20+. - They started the game minus their 3 best OL, Morgan Moses was playing on 2 bum ankles and only played because it was possible he could with their backup swing tackle also out and Street Walkers starting in place of T. Williams and getting injured and leaving the game as well, while also losing their starting LG in the 1st half, outside of Moses in the 2nd half, I dont think anyone on the oline was on the team for more than a week or less. By half time the Skins were down to a single healthy soon to be 34 year old TE. I remember commenting to someone I was watching the game that I could not recall Cousins having more than a handfull of clean pockets and time to throw... - The Cowboys defensive lived in the Skins backfield and decimated a who's who? of Skins olinemen. Crawford, Lawrence, and Irving had 8 QB hits, 4.5 TFL's, and 4 sacks between those 3 alone. - Talk about Rubbish: Terrelle Pryor Sr. Yikes... Josh Doctson still can jump and run straight, but can make cuts any better that a soon to be 40 yr old P51. Jamison Crowder and Chris Thompson had some nice stats when the Boys were giving up underneath coverage and letting their passrush do their thing. The field goal blocked before the half with the Boys converting it into a TD and 14-13 lead was rubbish, Cousins with everything going on around him had the Skins in position to take a 16-7 lead going into the half, instead they were down 14-13 and had to pass the 2nd half. 13-5 pas-run ratio, thats rubbish given the situation. Cousins had a bad stretch for sure, but whats a girl to do? They had to take chances and force the issue, given the context of the game situation and circumstances of the play around him, how many QB's can turn that chicken h!t$ into chicken $alad? Personally I think Cousins is an above average QB with his own issues, but that game was not lost by Cousins, I actually thought he showed alot heart and grit in that game. On topic: Cam coming to Buffalo is not very likely to happen, I dont see McD and McB bringing him in. EDIT: I dont see him fitting the type of attitude they want leading this team, IMO Tyrod has that attitude way more so than Cam. Edited November 2, 2017 by P51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Cam in Buffalo, yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Cam in Buffalo, yes please The over under on you hating him would be set at a half of a game. The things you don't like about Taylor? Cam does. The things you like about Taylor? Cam doesn't do. He's less accurate than Tyrod, throws more picks, and appears to be very immature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 The over under on you hating him would be set at a half of a game. The things you don't like about Taylor? Cam does. The things you like about Taylor? Cam doesn't do. He's less accurate than Tyrod, throws more picks, and appears to be very immature. The biggest reason I dont think Can has much, if any chance of coming here. I dont think they want his attitude anywhere near a position of leadership or in that type of role with this team. Maturity and development passing this season so far are the main reasons I do think TT has a great chance at being the starting QB in Buffalo into the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Cam in Buffalo, yes please 10 TDs and 11 Ints, and knuckleheaded leadership. No, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 This actually makes a lot of sense. I think they have a choice to make between Lotulelei and Kawann Short. The Panthers made their decision when they gave Kawann Short the franchise tag last year and ended up giving him a new contract. Add in the Panthers using their first round pick in 2016 on Vernon Butler, and that guarantees that Lotuleilei will be free to walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Id rather have Star....I think its a real possibility he comes here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 I'm expecting this to happen today. On 11/2/2017 at 11:59 AM, WMDman said: Id rather have Star....I think its a real possibility he comes here Good call! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 On 11/1/2017 at 9:59 AM, joesixpack said: Unless...Drew Brees. Or Alex Smith. Brees was a physical concern, with Rivers behind him in waiting. Different situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny3410 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 On 11/2/2017 at 6:43 AM, machine gun kelly said: Franchise QB's almost never leave. There is zero chance he leaves Carolina. I agree. I believe we need a Donald, Rosen or Mayfield for the next 10 years and not a Cam Newton for 2 or 3 years. My opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Please god no, no, no, noooooooooooo!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I would rather have Lamar Jackson than Cam Newton at this stage in all honesty, and people know very well how I feel about Lamar Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, simool said: That's a special kind of stupid there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 On 11/1/2017 at 9:50 AM, Gugny said: I have no link. This is just my opinion. It just makes sense. Beane is cherry-picking the best Panthers. He's cleared the money. I think Cam's gonna be a Bill. I agree. They will probably (not 100%) but probably throw in Luke to sweeten the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) On 11/1/2017 at 8:50 AM, Gugny said: I have no link. This is just my opinion. It just makes sense. Beane is cherry-picking the best Panthers. He's cleared the money. I think Cam's gonna be a Bill. Are you for real? No scratch that, I know the answer. 1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Please god no, no, no, noooooooooooo!!!!!!!! No worries, this is the purest trollishness. Edited March 14, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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