Captain_Quint Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Interested to hear opinions on this. Personally, I didn't think Dareus and Marrone meshed, but he had to have played a big part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Dont know. Dont care. Hope he sucks for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 "He played great for me. I can get him to return to form. I challenge McD and Brandon Beane to an IQ test. I have the best words." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Dont know. Dont care. Hope he sucks for them. Hmm besides the Bills beating the Patriots in the playoffs I think the next team on my list would be the Jags. Imagine BB's face as Blake Bortles trots off a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Marrone brought in Mike Williams and they didn't really get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 Marrone brought in Mike Williams and they didn't really get along. Good point. And they REALLY didn't get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Good point. And they REALLY didn't get along. They didn't get along at Syracuse. They brought him to the Bills. They said we get along great now. Then they quickly didn't get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The funny thing is Coughlin is probably the most strict personality the NFL has seen in recent years. Dareus' leash is likely shorter than it was in Buffalo. The fact they only gave up a 6th to get him means he could be kicking rocks even by year's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I think you would decide who really gets credit/blame for this trade in the same way most here tend to judge Bills trades (or draft picks). Any move you deem to be positive belongs to the guy in management you like the most. And every bad move you credit to the guy you dislike the most. So, if you think this is a bad move for Jax, you probably say "That's a Marrone move!' If Dareus ends up playing great for Jax, and makes a real difference, you later change this to "Coughlin's a genius! Despite Marrone they are doing well." Easy, see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 I think you would decide who really gets credit/blame for this trade in the same way most here tend to judge Bills trades (or draft picks). Any move you deem to be positive belongs to the guy in management you like the most. And every bad move you credit to the guy you dislike the most. So, if you think this is a bad move for Jax, you probably say "That's a Marrone move!' If Dareus ends up playing great for Jax, and makes a real difference, you later change this to "Coughlin's a genius! Despite Marrone they are doing well." Easy, see? That's a fair point. I guess the question is whether Marrone brought out the best in Dareus when he was coach, or if he just happened to be around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 He obviously understands Dareus. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 My question is the clauses which were put in by Jim Overdorf which allowed him not to pay back money after drug tests, are they still in? I think when you absorb contract you absorb all clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 My question is the clauses which were put in by Jim Overdorf which allowed him not to pay back money after drug tests, are they still in? I think when you absorb contract you absorb all clauses. Pretty sure you absorb all clauses. A bunch of us expect a reworked contract either soon or after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 he's the Marcell whisperer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 he's the Marcell whisperer In a an egotistical way, it might be how he looks at the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I cannot stand Doug Marrone. If Dareus plays at a high level for him, it will make it even worse. It also will not reflect well on the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 im sure he made the call with urgency, obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 "He played great for me. I can get him to return to form. I challenge McD and Brandon Beane to an IQ test. I have the best words." 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Two turds in a bun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Im pretty sure he ran the analytics part of it, obviously 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I cannot stand Doug Marrone. If Dareus plays at a high level for him, it will make it even worse. It also will not reflect well on the process. I see where your coming from, But even if he plays at a high level he is just meeting expectations of his contract. So yeah he plays well but yeah they are paying him like a top 5 DT. Too much risk, let it play out and I think we will all be happy he is gone and not our problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Hate to say it but the Jags are playoff bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Anal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) The funny thing is Coughlin is probably the most strict personality the NFL has seen in recent years. Dareus' leash is likely shorter than it was in Buffalo. The fact they only gave up a 6th to get him means he could be kicking rocks even by year's end.Isn this the part where someone responds great, and then he will go to the Patriots and become a hall of famer? Edited October 28, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I cannot stand Doug Marrone. If Dareus plays at a high level for him, it will make it even worse. It also will not reflect well on the process. Maybe Marrone was right to opt out. After witnessing the she-it show Whaley was running, and the draft picks and contracts he was giving away... he saw what was coming..and it wasn’t good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Like that song goes..... I dont care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Dareus is screwed. If he didn't like playing here - he's going to hate playing for that psycho again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Wonder what will happen if he fails the physical? Sometimes a new physician will find something unacceptable to another team and this should be a very extensive physical. If he really does not want to Jacksonville there are a number of things he could do to make him fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Isn't it obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 St Doug no doubt had a role in making this happen. And for all the talk of Dareus being a lockerroom cancer and lazy it's very telling that two known discipline focused guys in Coughlin and Marrone took on Dareus's contract. Jags have the look of a dark horse SB team and don't be surprised if a Dareus is motivated on a new team closer to home and they make a deep playoff run. The defense is already good enough and with Dareus could transform into a 2000 Ravens type of squad that can win it all with average to poor QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I have a gut feeling the bills were doing everything they could to keep Dareus healthy for a trade. Marcell might be a beast for the jags because he's gonna get alot more playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Interested to hear opinions on this. Personally, I didn't think Dareus and Marrone meshed, but he had to have played a big part. Great question. Marrone didn't mesh with most of the players, especially on the D side. Those guys loved playing for Schwartz though. I hope the DC in Jax can get the same out of Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I have a gut feeling the bills were doing everything they could to keep Dareus healthy for a trade. Marcell might be a beast for the jags because he's gonna get alot more playing time. I'm sure he'll have something to prove, at least early on. And if St. Doug and his staff keep him motivated he's going to look very good on a defense already loaded with talent at just about every position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtebow15 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I think they see this as a rental situation. He'll likely play motivated for the rest of this season where they have a real chance to win their division. If/when he goes back to being Darius they'll cut him. Question for the cap experts. I know the partial cap relief this gets us but if Jacksonville cuts him in a year or two do they suffer the same cap hits we would have? If they do I think it is a pretty dumb move by them to expect he'll change his stripes for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Dont know. Dont care. Hope he sucks for them. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Well he's a football player, obviously -Doug Marrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Hate to say it but the Jags are playoff bound. Definitely see them winning the AFC South, they might even get a 1st round bye. St Doug is well on his way to turning around a 3rd straight sports franchise. Too bad he left or we would have definitely been in the playoffs by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Nobody cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 "He played great for me. I can get him to return to form. I challenge McD and Brandon Beane to an IQ test. I have the best words." I think you would decide who really gets credit/blame for this trade in the same way most here tend to judge Bills trades (or draft picks). Any move you deem to be positive belongs to the guy in management you like the most. And every bad move you credit to the guy you dislike the most. So, if you think this is a bad move for Jax, you probably say "That's a Marrone move!' If Dareus ends up playing great for Jax, and makes a real difference, you later change this to "Coughlin's a genius! Despite Marrone they are doing well." Easy, see? I like both these quite a bit. Then again, I like both these posters/board members quite a bit, so I blame them for me liking their responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Definitely see them winning the AFC South, they might even get a 1st round bye. St Doug is well on his way to turning around a 3rd straight sports franchise. Too bad he left or we would have definitely been in the playoffs by now. Ya man. Fins-Jags super bowl this year. Those two teams are so good that the NFC is just going to forgo it's spot in the final game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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