Big C Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Missed the game tonight but skimming through the game thread I see a lot of Ducasse rage and no mention of Miller. Did Miller play? With the first team? I am a little worried that Castillo likes Ducasse and we are going to have some sort of Colin Brown situation on our hands again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Missed the game tonight but skimming through the game thread I see a lot of Ducasse rage and no mention of Miller. Did Miller play? With the first team? I am a little worried that Castillo likes Ducasse and we are going to have some sort of Colin Brown situation on our hands again. Ducasse started and I think they rotated. Ducasse is awful and should not make the team. Miller is much better. From what I saw not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Didn't a similar thing happen a few years back with some other player? Pre-season started the other guy to send a message to the stronger player. Basically you need to wake up! When the live bullets started flying, the regular guy was in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Miller supposedly doesn't have exp in this style of run scheme. I think, like others have mentioned, that the coaches are too loyal to Vlad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Miller started and was in for the first series - he was not to blame for the INT in any way - that was actually on Shady from a blocking perspective. Ducasse then played the second series and was responsible for 2 hits on TT with missed blocks. When the two are on the field it is not hard to see who is better. It isn't a close contest and if the concern truly is that Miller isn't an experienced stretch zone blocker then how do you help get him that experience when he is on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Miller started and was in for the first series - he was not to blame for the INT in any way - that was actually on Shady from a blocking perspective. Ducasse then played the second series and was responsible for 2 hits on TT with missed blocks. When the two are on the field it is not hard to see who is better. It isn't a close contest and if the concern truly is that Miller isn't an experienced stretch zone blocker then how do you help get him that experience when he is on the bench? I wish they'd put Dawkins in with Miller on the right side, but then I'd fear for the QBs life if it was Ducasse & Mills next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I don't care that Miller has less experience in this scheme. Ducasse's experience hasn't been trumping Miller's natural talent on the field. It's plain to see for everyone BUT Castillo and McDermott that it's not even close. Yet they keep trotting Vlad out there in Miller's place. It's maddening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 As I've said all offseason: Ducasse is horrible and never should've been signed. He's not fit to be on an NFL roster, and the fact that he counts as a compensatory FA is salt in the I-can't-believe-I-have-to-watch-him-play wound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Vlad is bad. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Can we just end the Vlad experience already. Jesus these coaches and their love affair with past projects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 All we need now is Chris Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Vlad Ducasse: https://twitter.com/MichaelJKist/status/898323709550764032/video/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Vlad is Bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Vlad Ducasse: https://twitter.com/MichaelJKist/status/898323709550764032/video/1 that's terrible, and it happened all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Miller started and was in there for the first two series', I believe. On Ducasse's first pass play he got walked right into Taylor's lap and then got steamrolled on the next play. From the practice notes I've read, it looks like Miller has been exclusively with the first-team with Ducasse taking less and less reps with the ones. They've moved Michael Ola to guard recently and he looked like he did better than Ducasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Why can't we put our best 5 on the field. Groy should move to RG. Put Miller or Dawkins at RT. Cut Bad Vlad. Sit Mills. Pick up someone's cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 that's terrible, and it happened all game. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Why can't we put our best 5 on the field. Groy should move to RG. Put Miller or Dawkins at RT. Cut Bad Vlad. Sit Mills. Pick up someone's cuts. Miller cant play RT. You best 5 at this point are LT - Dawkins LG - InCognito C - Wood RG - Miller RT - Mills O god i just threw up a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Vlad is Bad O line is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Vlad Ducasse: https://twitter.com/MichaelJKist/status/898323709550764032/video/1 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Vlad Ducasse: https://twitter.com/MichaelJKist/status/898323709550764032/video/1 As I dubbed him in another thread - and this is visual proof of it! - Vlad the Impaled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Ducasse gets blown up far too often. He is a player you bring in when all other options have been exhausted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Hard to say who Ravens fans hated more, Juan Castillo or Vlad Ducasse. They are very happy that both are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef4131 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Cox has done that to many Guards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Cox has done that to many Guards Incognito will attest to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 O line is bad Not when our 5 best are in. Im not sure I like how they are handling the OL right now. Hopefully Glenn is back, changes everything. Miller needs to be named RG starter also. The only battle is Dawkins vs Mills, which shouldnt be a battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Didn't a similar thing happen a few years back with some other player? Pre-season started the other guy to send a message to the stronger player. Basically you need to wake up! When the live bullets started flying, the regular guy was in there. It can be that or testing the viability of the backup vs starters Or that they actually like ducasse more. It's hard to read tooooo strongly into preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Cox has done that to many Guards Yes, Cox is very skilled at penetration in an aggressive manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Hard to say who Ravens fans hated more, Juan Castillo or Vlad Ducasse. They are very happy that both are gone. ...so do we have an obligation to keep BOTH?.....OBD EBT cards is the way ?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 @JoeBuscaglia A little OL switch-up at #Bills practice. Dion Dawkins at LT, Seantrel Henderson at RT, Vlad Ducasse at RG. Mills not practicing. @JoeBuscaglia Joe Buscaglia Retweeted Joe Buscaglia Also, I do not understand the fascination with Vlad Ducasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Vlad is horrible and I'm not sure when he was ever good. This organization prioritizes signing people you like, personally. That's why we have two FBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I was saying as long ago as May I really think Castillo is pushing for Ducasse to start. Some very sensible posters were saying it is just OTAs they know Miller is a lot better Miller will start..... I am losing faith that Miller will start. They are going to start Ducasse. It is negligent to do so but they are going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I was saying as long ago as May I really think Castillo is pushing for Ducasse to start. Some very sensible posters were saying it is just OTAs they know Miller is a lot better Miller will start..... I am losing faith that Miller will start. They are going to start Ducasse. It is negligent to do so but they are going to do it. It would be more egregious than Aaron Kromer force-feeding us Jordan Mills. There's a sentence I never thought I'd type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 O line is bad Pass protection is bad. The O-Line has been pretty consistently great in the run game. That said, it will be a disaster if the O-Line is playing like they did Thursday when the season starts. Vlad is horrible and I'm not sure when he was ever good. This organization prioritizes signing people you like, personally. That's why we have two FBs. The wrongly maligned two fullback thing is actually very logical and addresses a specific need. Last year, the offense was effective (at or near top ten in many categories), but they were atrocious at converting 3rd & short (or 3rd & anything). Tolbert is one of the best in the league at 3rd & short runs, albeit he's heading into his 30s. Ducasse has been terrible, and it's baffling why they would even hint at replacing a young guard, who by almost all accounts was one of the most improved in the league last year, with a guy who has had little success in his career. As depth, I could almost rationalize the signing, but we had the best running game in the league last year by 15 ypg over the next team. Why "fix" what ain't broke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Last year, the offense was effective (at or near top ten in many categories), but they were atrocious at converting 3rd & short (or 3rd & anything). Tolbert is one of the best in the league at 3rd & short runs, albeit he's heading into his 30s. Mike Gilleslee had the best 3rd and short conversion rate of any back in the NFL. Just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Mike Gilleslee had the best 3rd and short conversion rate of any back in the NFL. Just FYI. Was about to point that out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I was saying as long ago as May I really think Castillo is pushing for Ducasse to start. Some very sensible posters were saying it is just OTAs they know Miller is a lot better Miller will start..... I am losing faith that Miller will start. They are going to start Ducasse. It is negligent to do so but they are going to do it. It's so inconceivable that I'll only believe it when I see it--and then I'll issue a mea culpa to you Gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 It's so inconceivable that I'll only believe it when I see it--and then I'll issue a mea culpa to you Gunner Believe me Bandit I have never hoped you are right more since being on this board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I say there's no way Ducasse makes the team. Ryan Groy played really well last game, and can backup three positions. My guess is that the Bills wanted to see how he would do against a #1 defense to see if he could be a competent backup. He can't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I say there's no way Ducasse makes the team. Ryan Groy played really well last game, and can backup three positions. My guess is that the Bills wanted to see how he would do against a #1 defense to see if he could be a competent backup. He can't be. He was with the starters again in practice yesterday. I keep hoping the are going to wake up...... I think they are going to start him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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