SoCal Deek Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 They better find some way to get Groy on the field. He was great in relief of Woods last year and I can't believe he's going to be content sitting on the bench all season...especially if the team starts going south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 They better find some way to get Groy on the field. He was great in relief of Woods last year and I can't believe he's going to be content sitting on the bench all season...especially if the team starts going south. Groy also plays WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Groy also plays WR? Yes but Tyrod never throws to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Yes but Tyrod never throws to him. Well of course not since he stays in the middle of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Groy also plays WR? Good catch (pun intended) I always get that one wrong! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Well of course not since he stays in the middle of the field. In the centre one might say........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 In the centre one might say........ Indeed, but you spell it in an odd way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 As I've said all offseason: Ducasse is horrible and never should've been signed. He's not fit to be on an NFL roster, and the fact that he counts as a compensatory FA is salt in the I-can't-believe-I-have-to-watch-him-play wound I think the coaching staff brought him in for depth and to help the other players learn the scheme. The problem is he doesn't even look like a competent backup and is taking away reps from players that need them to learn. The only silver lining is that if they cut him before week 10 he doesn't count against the comp picks formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Mike Gilleslee had the best 3rd and short conversion rate of any back in the NFL. Just FYI. ....and what do we do?...hand him to our rival on a silver platter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Hard to say who Ravens fans hated more, Juan Castillo or Vlad Ducasse. They are very happy that both are gone. Ravens OL was terrible and we are seeing why. I know most hires in NFL coaching circles are crony/ buddy variety, but it looks like the Bills are really going to miss Kromer. Castillo gets a D thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) Ravens OL was terrible and we are seeing why. I know most hires in NFL coaching circles are crony/ buddy variety, but it looks like the Bills are really going to miss Kromer. Castillo gets a D thus far. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-this-season For what it's worth, PFF actually had the ravens o line ranked higher than the Bills last year. In 2015 they had them ranked #13 and Buffalo #9 - https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-offensive-lines-this-season In 2014 Baltimore was ranked the #3 O line in the NFL - https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings Football outsides had the ravens ranked the #8 pass protection line last year, and the Bills #31. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol In 2015 the ravens ranked #2 in pass protection by F.O. - http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol2015 Edited August 19, 2017 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Miller started and was in for the first series - he was not to blame for the INT in any way - that was actually on Shady from a blocking perspective. Ducasse then played the second series and was responsible for 2 hits on TT with missed blocks. When the two are on the field it is not hard to see who is better. It isn't a close contest and if the concern truly is that Miller isn't an experienced stretch zone blocker then how do you help get him that experience when he is on the bench? What exactly did Shady do that was wrong on that play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 OL decisions are a black mark on the FO so far. I can understand the Watkins trade and really like moving Darby out. But the CK and Ducasse decisions are indefensible even if Glenn returns to health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 What exactly did Shady do that was wrong on that play?He waited too long to pick up the blitzer. Stood back and did not attack. That was his man that tipped the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 What exactly did Shady do that was wrong on that play? He tried to just throw a half hearted low block on his man rather than a full engage. Had he fully engaged likely the defender can't get his hands up to bat the pass. It was a pre-season business decision I understand and have no problem with it. But it sure as hell wasn't an O-line issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Ducasse starting week 1 would be a such a gut punch from this coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Ducasse starting week 1 would be a such a gut punch from this coaching staff. That would suck. I re watched john miller from last season and he made strides in leaps and bounds. Hopefully motivation to keep him hungry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 As I've said all offseason: Ducasse is horrible and never should've been signed. He's not fit to be on an NFL roster, and the fact that he counts as a compensatory FA is salt in the I-can't-believe-I-have-to-watch-him-play wound Bandit, a close friend of mine is an avid Jets Fan. I consider him to be a football expert as far as fans go. I won't put him in a class with Badol, but I would place him in the 2 percentile of knowledgeable fans. He told me that Ducasse might be the worst offensive lineman he has ever seen. Now, he can't remember seeing Greg Jerman or Marcus Spriggs, but his point is taken. From what I have seen, I am convinced that the Bills could do better with an undrafted free agent. They really should cut Duclasse today and try to coach someone up, especially if doing so will help net them another 3rd!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 that's terrible, and it happened all game. That hardly qualifies as a speed bump. Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 @JoeBuscaglia #Bills HC Sean McDermott says Vlad Ducasse will start at RG, but, that it's still an open competition with John Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 @JoeBuscaglia #Bills HC Sean McDermott says Vlad Ducasse will start at RG, but, that it's still an open competition with John Miller. HAHAHAHA WTFFFFFFFF? do they really watch the tape and are like YES great block. i like how you got pancaked on that play and fell backwards right into the QB's lap! they would be better off putting a tackling dummy at RG than big bad Vlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 @JoeBuscaglia #Bills HC Sean McDermott says Vlad Ducasse will start at RG, but, that it's still an open competition with John Miller. I am telling you. They are starting Vlad. This is Castillo's boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I am telling you. They are starting Vlad. This is Castillo's boy. I hate stupid player loyalty decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I hate stupid player loyalty decisions. I saw the writing on the wall a looooooonnnngggg way off on this one. I still hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 WTF? I think Tyod should have a bigger beef with this decision than with losing his WRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I just don't get that. How is it even a competition? Is Miller messing up assignments or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I saw the writing on the wall a looooooonnnngggg way off on this one. I still hate it. I still refuse to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Why can't we put our best 5 on the field. Groy should move to RG. Put Miller or Dawkins at RT. Cut Bad Vlad. Sit Mills. Pick up someone's cuts. Love how people think you can just move guards out to play tackle and take into no consideration arm length, footwork, or ability to play the position...they are two totally different positions... That's the problem with people playing Madden...they think they can just move anyone anywhere in real life and they'll be fine...reality is a long long way from Madden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 there's only one explanation that makes sense at this point. i'm sad to say that Juan Castillo has murdered someone and Vlad knows where he buried the body/bodies. someone needs to notify the authorities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Surprised that the intrepid local media haven't pressed the issue more in the PCs. It doesn't have to be a direct question of why is Ducasse still starting, but more of - is Miller battling an injury or failing to pick up the new offense. Any way they can frame it to have McD answer the obvious weak spot on the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Ducasse and Mills as the right side of the OL? RU FN kidding me?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) My coworker is a Ravens fan and had a good laugh when I told him the Bills signed Ducasse. Castillo's fascination for him is unsettling. I've almost never wanted to see a Bills player fail, but I hope he gets abused all game and they finally see he is not a capable starter. Tyrod is going to get killed this year and we're going to go another year of having no idea if Tyrod is any good because he's never going to have more than 2 seconds to throw the ball. Edited August 24, 2017 by elroy16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 My coworker is a Ravens fan and had a good laugh when I told him the Bills signed Ducasse. Castillo's fascination for him is unsettling. I've almost never wanted to see a Bills player fail, but I hope he gets abused all game and they finally see he is not a capable starter. Tyrod is going to get killed this year and we're going to go another year of having no idea if Tyrod is any good because he's never going to have more than 2 seconds to throw the ball. you would think the eagles game was enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I still refuse to believe it. I can see you saying this in week 17 as well after this clown starts all 16 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Why in the world isn't Groy in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I can see you saying this in week 17 as well after this clown starts all 16 games. I promised you a mea culpa if he's starting in week 1, and you shall have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Why in the world isn't Groy in there? They have only played him at C for the entire training camp and preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 MIller should win this one hands down. Ducasse is not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 You gotta be kidding me McD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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