Source: Bills Still Deciding on Watkins' 5th Year Option

[BuffaloBaumer]

I couldn't care less anymore. All of these guys are useless until they find a QB. Drafting Sammy and overpaying for Clay just shows how stupid this organization really has been. Let's hope this next rebuild has some brains behind it.

[FireChan]

Why don't you provide a list of players that corroborates your stance.

Levitre, Byrd, Searcy, Hairston, Rheingold.

[Cripple Creek]

No brainer, pick up the option.Why create another hole earlier than necessary?

[boyst]

Levitre, Byrd, Searcy, Hairston, Rheingold.

levitre was terrible because we knew that we were not going to retain him and had no backup plan

 

byrd was overblown but we should have attempted to keep him, we could have afforded him.

 

searcy was the greatest mistake of this. but i can't beleive he got so much in his contract but that was at a time when there was a change in the way guys were signed.

 

hairston would have been nice to keep but not neccessary.

 

rheingold wasn't terrible but not great. he'd have been out of place by 2015.

[Success]

It would awful to see Sammy have a long, healthy career with another team. They have to keep a player like him, period. A true difference maker.

[Kirby Jackson]

Levitre, Byrd, Searcy, Hairston, Rheingold.

Not sure if you are being serious or not? I will address it as if you are and apologize if not. Byrd and Levitre went down as TERRIBLE signings by their next teams and were released well before their contracts were up. Byrd is one of the biggest mistakes that Loomis has made. Searcy was a decent player but probably not worth over $10M guaranteed at the time. He hasn't done anything in Tennessee. Hairston is a backup, versatile OL that couldn't stay healthy here. He is a total JAG. Rheingold...Rinehart isn't in the league. Edited April 15, 2017 by Kirby Jackson

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Not sure if you are being serious or not? I will address it as if you are and apologize if not. Byrd and Levitre went down as TERRIBLE signings by their next teams and were released well before their contracts were up. Byrd is one of the biggest mistakes that Loomis has made. Searcy was a decent player but probably not worth over $10M guaranteed at the time. He hasn't done anything in Tennessee. Hairston is a backup, versatile OL that couldn't stay healthy here. He is a total JAG. Rheingold...Rinehart isn't in the league.

...on board with your assessment Kirby.....8 mil for G Levitre was huge $$ then...to his credit, he did rebound nicely in HotLanta after woeful Titan tenure...........Byrd?......thank God there is NO OBD homecoming with Papa Byrd on the staff............

[thebandit27]

Not sure if you are being serious or not? I will address it as if you are and apologize if not. Byrd and Levitre went down as TERRIBLE signings by their next teams and were released well before their contracts were up. Byrd is one of the biggest mistakes that Loomis has made. Searcy was a decent player but probably not worth over $10M guaranteed at the time. He hasn't done anything in Tennessee. Hairston is a backup, versatile OL that couldn't stay healthy here. He is a total JAG. Rheingold...Rinehart isn't in the league.

Your first sentence is a testament to ChanFuego's A+ shtick game

[Beef Jerky]

Levitre, Byrd, Searcy, Hairston, Rheingold.

Worst group of players that basically kills your argument.

believe me, he ain't staying after 5 in any event. forget about Watkins after his rookie contract is up. his agent will get him outta here, a la Gilmore, Peters and all before him

 

Bills are nothing but a AAA farm team for the rest of the league. Development team. We develop our top rookies for eventual insertion into the real franchises... it has happened too many times for it not to be a legit viewpoint. Without the draft trapping a certain amount of top talent for 4 or 5 years , the Bills wouldn't have much of a team at all

The stupidity in these posts is laughable.

[Kirby Jackson]

Your first sentence is a testament to ChanFuego's A+ shtick game

That is a huge reason I like FC. He is always on point. I have no idea when he's trolling and when he's serious. He is a great poster.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

We used two 1st round picks on the 4th best WR in a draft class. From the day he got to buffalo he has been limited by injury. If we don't exercise the 5th year option on this guy and have to deal with another half throttle season...it will be the final nail for Doug. Whaley needs Watkins and Dareus to be who they are billed as for a change. For every low level street FA gem signing that Doug has made, there is a monster mistake with franchise cornerstone. Maybe Whaley should just be a pro personnel scout and leave the draft and money making decisions to someone else.

[Buffalo Boy]

It has been a terrible trade up.

 

Watkins still has yet to put in a season better than Steve Johnson's three 1,000 yard seasons in a row, who all the fans turned on during the end of his run here.

 

Its bad all around. The Bills pay double for a WR in a stacked class that has been outperformed by the two WRs taken after him, he has been hurt - ribs, ankle, foot, we still have no QB that can get him the ball, we have game plans Watkins is used as a decoy the entire game (Patriots), or a safety rolls over the top and the Bills decide to take him out of gameplan (Chiefs).

 

Tyrod said last year that they can't force the ball to Watkins because they need to get other people the ball too. SMH Tyrod.

 

The Bills still don't use Watkins, and Watkins himself always has some issue with heath. He is always playing through something, or not 100%. McDermott just talked about running the ball and working hard, so nothing is going to change. Watkins being here does not lead to more winning, so its been a failure of a trade-up.

Hated this pick then, hate this pick now.

Keep him for one more year and then use him in a trade to move up for someone, especially a QB if we don't get one this year.

[FireChan]

Not sure if you are being serious or not? I will address it as if you are and apologize if not. Byrd and Levitre went down as TERRIBLE signings by their next teams and were released well before their contracts were up. Byrd is one of the biggest mistakes that Loomis has made. Searcy was a decent player but probably not worth over $10M guaranteed at the time. He hasn't done anything in Tennessee. Hairston is a backup, versatile OL that couldn't stay healthy here. He is a total JAG. Rheingold...Rinehart isn't in the league.

 

Not serious.

Your first sentence is a testament to ChanFuego's A+ shtick game

 

That is a huge reason I like FC. He is always on point. I have no idea when he's trolling and when he's serious. He is a great poster.

[stuvian]

Does his status basically force us to go WR at 1?

 

I dont support an extension. He just hasnt been healthy enough

[Deranged Rhino]

Does his status basically force us to go WR at 1?

 

I dont support an extension. He just hasnt been healthy enough

 

His deal doesn't force the Bills to go WR early... but the lack of talent behind him might.

[John from Riverside]

people thinking we might part ways with Sammy Watkins

 

just crazy talk

[Deranged Rhino]

people thinking we might part ways with Sammy Watkins

 

just crazy talk

 

 

Personal opinions on the player aside, if Whaley is still the GM he has to extend Sammy and see to it that he gets a second contract in Buffalo. Just for the optics alone.

[BarleyNY]

Does his status basically force us to go WR at 1?

I dont support an extension. He just hasnt been healthy enough

The Bills desperately need to address WR. They need to do that even with Watkins as he's pretty much all they have right now. It's difficult to say they have to do it at 10 because a) we don't know who will be available at 10 and b) the defensive backfield is just as needy.

[boyst]

 

 

Personal opinions on the player aside, if Whaley is still the GM he has to extend Sammy and see to it that he gets a second contract in Buffalo. Just for the optics alone.

and this is doom. If Watkins doesn't catch 1000 yards the next two seasons he's a bust. He was and needs to be that good. But even with just 700 yards and 8-9 tds a yr he would be re-signed. He'd have to be. Which is sad because he would demand top money.

[cd1]

I think we NEED to get a top notch #2 WR.

 

The "promise" of a healthy Sammy is not comforting to MOST fans.

 

THE big question is - Can he STAY healthy? The answer to that is going to take a whole season and we need to be PREPARED so as not to have a repeat of LAST YEAR.

 

Unfortunately, I am not comfortable with extending Sammy until proves he is durable enough to play in the NFL.

[Bangarang]

I'd pull my hair out if this team took another WR with a top 10 pick.

[Dr. Who]

I'm rather hoping for Chris Godwin, Penn St. wr, in the second.

I really would like Mahomes, Trubisky, or Watson in the first.

They will probably go lb, cb or something like that.

 

Oh, and I can't see them not adding the fifth year after the price paid to get Sammy.

If he can stay healthy, he is elite.

Edited April 15, 2017 by Dr. Who

[Mickey]

I think we NEED to get a top notch #2 WR.

 

The "promise" of a healthy Sammy is not comforting to MOST fans.

 

THE big question is - Can he STAY healthy? The answer to that is going to take a whole season and we need to be PREPARED so as not to have a repeat of LAST YEAR.

 

Unfortunately, I am not comfortable with extending Sammy until proves he is durable enough to play in the NFL.

New injuries are random events. Going a year without injury does not make it more likely that he will go without injury the following year. Pre-existing injuries and chronic conditions are predictable but apart from those, its a roll of the dice.

[NoSaint]

I'd pull my hair out if this team took another WR with a top 10 pick.

Would you really hate a more dynamic passing game that much?

[Gunsgoodtime]

I'd pull my hair out if this team took another WR with a top 10 pick.

Get ready to be bald. Very high chance we go that route, and I won't be disappointed. We have nobody, even with Watkins because he simply can't be trusted to stay healthy. Many injuries already

[JaCrispy]

I'm curious what y'all think...if the Bills do not give the 5th year to Sammy, should they attempt to trade him during the draft, in hopes to recoup some of their investment, to prevent him from walking after next year- leaving the Bills with nothing?

 

I ask because I always feel the Bills get screwed in these situations, making it seem like they don't plan for the future like the Pats do.

[KDIGGZ]

If Watkins goes then Whaley goes. As good as Watkins is, right now he would be considered a bust because we used 2x firsts on him and he can't stay on the field. He should be in the pro bowl by now to be worth that kind of ransom

[NoSaint]

I'm curious what y'all think...if the Bills do not give the 5th year to Sammy, should they attempt to trade him during the draft, in hopes to recoup some of their investment, to prevent him from walking after next year- leaving the Bills with nothing?

 

I ask because I always feel the Bills get screwed in these situations, making it seem like they don't plan for the future like the Pats do.

If for whatever reason they are pointing him out of buffalo I guess you try to get value.... but I think they would be crazy to not keep him.

[wiskibreth]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/15/report-bills-might-not-pick-up-sammy-watkins-fifth-year-option/

 

"But according to Sal Capaccio of WGR 550, the Bills might not pick up Watkins’ option after all: The team is still deciding and may take a couple weeks before making a final decision."

 

First, I'm wondering is Sal has any real insight, or is this just conjecture on his part? I love how when someone in the press blurts out an opinion, it somehow becomes "news". I mean, of course they might not pick up Watkins' option, but then again they might -and probably will. If that's the case, then why print this article? (i know... so I'll click on it.)

 

Second, does anyone know exactly when the Bills need to make that decision? What's the deadline to pick up that option? thx.

 

nevermind... second link. "Team has until May 2 to make a decision for 2018"

Edited April 15, 2017 by wiskibreth

[3rdand12]

If for whatever reason they are pointing him out of buffalo I guess you try to get value.... but I think they would be crazy to not keep him.

I would think they want to keep him too.

If they sign the option, isn't he guaranteed against injury in 2018 ?

that is not a risk i want to take. Perhaps i misread that though.

Watkins only injury i want the Bills to be sure about ( this time ) is the foot. Do not feel he is injury prone so much as he cannot get that boo boo foot healed up fully.

Dude is one hell of a WR.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/15/report-bills-might-not-pick-up-sammy-watkins-fifth-year-option/

 

"But according to Sal Capaccio of WGR 550, the Bills might not pick up Watkins’ option after all: The team is still deciding and may take a couple weeks before making a final decision."

 

First, I'm wondering is Sal has any real insight, or is this just conjecture on his part? I love how when someone in the press blurts out an opinion, it somehow becomes "news". I mean, of course they might not pick up Watkins' option, but then again they might -and probably will. If that's the case, then why print this article? (i know... so I'll click on it.)

 

Second, does anyone know exactly when the Bills need to make that decision? What's the deadline to pick up that option? thx.

 

nevermind... second link. "Team has until May 2 to make a decision for 2018"

It is a question worth asking by the media. But is that the Bills thinking or just a thought of his? This is where i roll my eyes.

 

"MIGHT NOT" suggesting the FO is thinking as much is a bit ingenious

I say

Maybe they DO pick it up maybe they don't

[Deranged Rhino]

I'm curious what y'all think...if the Bills do not give the 5th year to Sammy, should they attempt to trade him during the draft, in hopes to recoup some of their investment, to prevent him from walking after next year- leaving the Bills with nothing?

 

I ask because I always feel the Bills get screwed in these situations, making it seem like they don't plan for the future like the Pats do.

 

There's no chance of him leaving Buffalo. He'll get tagged before he'll be allowed to walk. With the amount of assets the franchise put into drafting him, he will be a Bill for a second contract.

[Another Fan]

There's no chance of him leaving Buffalo. He'll get tagged before he'll be allowed to walk. With the amount of assets the franchise put into drafting him, he will be a Bill for a second contract.

 

Agreed. Still I don't trust his ability to stay healthy. I'd still get insurance at the WR position.

[stuvian]

there seems to be no apparent risk in failing to extend him save for relationships

[Deranged Rhino]

there seems to be no apparent risk in failing to extend him save for relationships

 

He'll get his 5th year option. I promise.

[YoloinOhio]

MUD

[stuvian]

I can't see us not exercising the option if DW is s till around

[r00tabaga]

I'd pull my hair out if this team took another WR with a top 10 pick.

You are smarter than most. Why don't others see this? Do we really want to be the Detroit Lions East!?? CB, S, DLine, WLB, etc......

 

Especially with WRs that will be solid well into the 4th 5th rounds.

[Buffalo Boy]

New injuries are random events. Going a year without injury does not make it more likely that he will go without injury the following year. Pre-existing injuries and chronic conditions are predictable but apart from those, its a roll of the dice.

Some players are not " tough" . Always having nagging injuries and letting people know they do. Sammy appears to be this type.

[bisonbrigade]

I would say let him walk, but half the time Sammy cannot even do that. Best player on injury list. His favorite place.

[Boatdrinks]

Does his status basically force us to go WR at 1?

I dont support an extension. He just hasnt been healthy enough

No extension necessary. Just need to pick up 5th year option, which I believe the Bills should do. Seems like perhaps another smokescreen to mask draft intentions.