Sestak4ever Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Every year there are teams that take a player most had pegged as third rounders in the first round, whether it be the Raiders, New England, whoever. Who will it be this year? Which team, or teams, will reach for a player that makes everyone say “Huh?”. I love when this happens because it just means someone is falling closer to the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Seattle is also one of those teams who tends to do things that are not chalk in the first round. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Maybe not as much of an overdraft, but I think at least 1 of the WRs people see as late 1st early 2nd may go ahead of Brian Thomas. On the flip side one of McCarthy, Penix or Nix will slide way further than most mock drafters want to believe. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Saints and Seattle are easily betting favorites. They love drafting late day 2 guys in round 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 27 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Seattle is also one of those teams who tends to do things that are not chalk in the first round. No team makes me press scroll quite like the Seahawks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Never rule out a first round long snapper. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Nobody. They trade down to the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 It seems to have gotten less and less over the years. I don't remember last year any first round surprise. Gibbs, McDonald, Campbell, and Harrison were pry the biggest "reaches" but none where shocks that they went in the first round The biggest surprise was Will Levis falling into the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 You can always count on Bill Belichick to make a head scratcher. Though, that may not be the case for 2024. He has a high pick and the QB that NE desperately needs will be there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Maybe not as much of an overdraft, but I think at least 1 of the WRs people see as late 1st early 2nd may go ahead of Brian Thomas. Agree. I think #4 on most WR boards has huge variance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Maybe not as much of an overdraft, but I think at least 1 of the WRs people see as late 1st early 2nd may go ahead of Brian Thomas. On the flip side one of McCarthy, Penix or Nix will slide way further than most mock drafters want to believe. Interesting, any perspective on why you think Thomas will slide and/or not be 4th off the board? I was watching tape of him last night, salivating at the thought of Josh throwing to him. Seemed like he would take Gabe’s role instantly but be way more dangerous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 12 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Interesting, any perspective on why you think Thomas will slide and/or not be 4th off the board? I was watching tape of him last night, salivating at the thought of Josh throwing to him. Seemed like he would take Gabe’s role instantly but be way more dangerous. Not enough evidence of a whole route tree. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I’ll go with Denver. I think that they may WAY overdraft a QB. Maybe it isn’t a head scratcher, because they need a guy, but if they take a guy in the 1st it’ll look ridiculous. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 15 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Interesting, any perspective on why you think Thomas will slide and/or not be 4th off the board? I was watching tape of him last night, salivating at the thought of Josh throwing to him. Seemed like he would take Gabe’s role instantly but be way more dangerous. It's not that I think he will "slide". It's what the reality often is between the draft expert community and actual team boards is typically pretty different. We tend to hear "Player X is the #4 WR" and then other" experts parrot that enough until it becomes thought of as a common fact. WR this year will come down to the eye of the beholder. And even though Thomas is talented the odds that another team may see more upside in another player is there. Add in, the teams see the medicals. They talk in person to the draftees. They do background checks and look into things on a whole different level than just watching the film. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 56 minutes ago, boater said: You can always count on Bill Belichick to make a head scratcher. Though, that may not be the case for 2024. He has a high pick and the QB that NE desperately needs will be there. Plus Belichek is no longer with the Patriots. So there is that. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 55 minutes ago, boater said: You can always count on Bill Belichick to make a head scratcher. Though, that may not be the case for 2024. He has a high pick and the QB that NE desperately needs will be there. And he can't screw up their draft because he is unemployed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 NC States Payton Wilson. Best ILB on the board but with a second round grade. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 A head scratcher would be any team trading away multiple picks to move up and draft a WR. 1 2 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) On 4/6/2024 at 5:51 PM, strive_for_five_guy said: Interesting, any perspective on why you think Thomas will slide and/or not be 4th off the board? I was watching tape of him last night, salivating at the thought of Josh throwing to him. Seemed like he would take Gabe’s role instantly but be way more dangerous. Thomas’ physical tools are tremendous and you can see he has a lot of upside, but right now he isn’t a finished product. Bama admittedly has great corners, but they basically erased Thomas in that game. He is an outstanding prospect, but I don’t think he would step into lead dog role right away, maybe not even this season. Edited April 12 by OldTimer1960 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, boater said: You can always count on Bill Belichick to make a head scratcher. Though, that may not be the case for 2024. He has a high pick and the QB that NE desperately needs will be there. That was his parting gift to the Patriots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 26 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Thomas’ physical tools are tremendous and you can see he has a lot of upside, but right now he isn’t a finished product. Baja admittedly has great corners, but they basically erased Thomas in that game. He is an outstanding prospect, but I don’t think he would step into lead dog role right away, maybe not even this season. Would you think he’d be a step up over Gabe right away though, even before any potential polishing? And then the team can lean on the likes of Kincaid, Samuel, Shakir and Cook to fill the rest of the role we lost in Diggs. Watching Jayden Daniels freelance to Thomas, I could totally see him and Josh hooking up for some huge plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 11 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Would you think he’d be a step up over Gabe right away though, even before any potential polishing? And then the team can lean on the likes of Kincaid, Samuel, Shakir and Cook to fill the rest of the role we lost in Diggs. Watching Jayden Daniels freelance to Thomas, I could totally see him and Josh hooking up for some huge plays. I am not saying that they shouldn’t draft Thomas and let him develop and yes I think he would probably be a starter right away and a strong deep threat from the start. I would be very happy to get Thomas as long as it doesn’t cost too much in picks to get him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Jj McCarthy as anything more than a late round pick is the real head scratcher in this draft. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 15 hours ago, MJS said: And he can't screw up their draft because he is unemployed. My wrong. Oh my. It's been a long off-season 15 hours ago, Chaos said: Plus Belichek is no longer with the Patriots. So there is that. Yep. My bad. With all the Bills drama going on, I forgot the NE news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 4 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: I would be very happy to get Thomas as long as it doesn’t cost too much in picks to get him. This about sums it up. Anything more than a 4th (and flipping firsts) and I'm out the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Other head scratchers if picked in the first (of course, just my $.02): - Troy Franklin (size and hands questions and shaky combine) - Darius Robinson (can play both DT and DE, but first round?) - Any safety (unless you count Cooper Dejean as a S) -Braden Fiske (arm length) - Xavier Worthy (size & hands) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 18 hours ago, Chaos said: Plus Belichek is no longer with the Patriots. So there is that. The ghost of Belichek will still have an unnatural influence, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 10 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: The ghost of Belichek will still have an unnatural influence, He took his dog with him, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 19 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: NC States Payton Wilson. Best ILB on the board but with a second round grade. Yea I can see him being a "surprise" first rounder. A bit like when Green Bay took your guy Quay in the first a couple of years back. Wasn't a bad prospect by any meana but wasn't a first round talent and reaching, even if only a bit, on a prospect at a non-premium position in round 1 is always a head scratcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 6 hours ago, peterpan said: Jj McCarthy as anything more than a late round pick is the real head scratcher in this draft. Yeah this was my take. The fact he may go top 4 is insane. Harbaugh is probably laughing his ass off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I feel like a lot of qbs after Caleb and Maye have a lot of chances to bust. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Worthy, I don't know if he goes in the 1st, but he's going to go way too high because there's always a team looking for the next tyreek. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 If Al Davis was still alive, the Raiders would take Worthy at pick 13. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 The Raiders are always a team to surprise. Xavier Worthy seems an obvious connection since they love speed. They might also take a QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/6/2024 at 4:06 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: Maybe not as much of an overdraft, but I think at least 1 of the WRs people see as late 1st early 2nd may go ahead of Brian Thomas. On the flip side one of McCarthy, Penix or Nix will slide way further than most mock drafters want to believe. I could see this being Franklin or McConkey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Aaron Maybin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, mushypeaches said: Aaron Maybin Could be the case with another Penn State player this year, Chop Robinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/6/2024 at 2:40 PM, Sestak4ever said: Every year there are teams that take a player most had pegged as third rounders in the first round, whether it be the Raiders, New England, whoever. Who will it be this year? Which team, or teams, will reach for a player that makes everyone say “Huh?”. I love when this happens because it just means someone is falling closer to the Bills. Whomever the Raiders take for 1000 Alex 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) I think whoever we draft 🤣🤣 There are about 6 WRs in play, but could be a dark horse WR projected to go early round 2 like Legette. Speaking of RD2, I’m calling it now: Running Back Edited April 8 by TheyCallMeAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 4/6/2024 at 3:40 PM, Sestak4ever said: Every year there are teams that take a player most had pegged as third rounders in the first round, whether it be the Raiders, New England, whoever. Who will it be this year? Which team, or teams, will reach for a player that makes everyone say “Huh?”. I love when this happens because it just means someone is falling closer to the Bills. The Raiders will come through for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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