Rubes Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Fun to read article from SportsDrop on each NFL team's best and worst QBs. Quote Bills’ Worst: Nathan Peterman The Bills have had so many failed quarterbacks over the years that it’s almost impossible to pick just one as the worst ever. But Peterman stands out as a colossal failure in such a short period of time. While he didn’t have high expectations as a fifth-round pick, he failed spectacularly when given a chance. During Peterman’s rookie year, he was inserted into the starting lineup a week after Buffalo lost 47-10. He proceeded to throw five interceptions in the first half of the game, getting benched at halftime. Peterman was then forced into Buffalo’s playoff game later that season when Tyrod Taylor suffered a concussion. He threw the game-ending interception in a 10-3 loss. Yet, he started two more games the following year, throwing one touchdown and seven interceptions on just 81 attempts, finishing his time with the Bills with 12 picks on 130 attempts. Just remember, this is the guy our current coach picked to start at one point. Absolutely incredible how this guy ***** the bed when he got the big chance. There have been plenty of really bad QBs for the Bills over the years, but it's hard to argue with just how bad Peterman was when he took the field. Others you would argue were worse? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Tuel Time maybe? Peterman's 3 TD to 12 INT ratio for the Bills has to win it, but I'd vote Tuel for next worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 26 minutes ago, Rubes said: Fun to read article from SportsDrop on each NFL team's best and worst QBs. Just remember, this is the guy our current coach picked to start at one point. Absolutely incredible how this guy ***** the bed when he got the big chance. There have been plenty of really bad QBs for the Bills over the years, but it's hard to argue with just how bad Peterman was when he took the field. Others you would argue were worse? Peterman was 1-1 in 2017. I think a lot of guys forget (or never experienced) how bad the team was between Ferguson and Kelly. Vince Ferragamo was 1-8 in 1985, with 5 TD's and 17 INT's. 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Dennis Shaw's 1971 season was THE WORST season by a Bills quarterback in our history. 1-11 record, 1,813 passing yards, 11 TDs, 26 INTs, 51.2% completions. 2 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Gary Marangi was the worst. Set an NFL record for QB futility in 1976 with a 35.3 completion % that most likely will never be broken. He replaced Joe Ferguson the 2nd half of the season after Fergy had a season ending injury and after 1976 never played another down. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MaraGa00.htm 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 It is easily Nate Peterman. He. Could. Not. Play. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It is easily Nate Peterman. He. Could. Not. Play. But he is a strong christian. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14774 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Considering where he was picked, EJ has to rank near the top. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I loved Kelly, but I don't think there's any question at all that Allen is a better quarterback in every respect. (I don't count hardware, never have.) 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 When you combine stats and his name, Joe Dufek is my choice for worst ever... 1-4, 49% comp %, 4 TD 8 INT Stats alone it is Peterman by a landslide.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkirk Donski Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 56 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: When you combine stats and his name, Joe Dufek is my choice for worst ever... 1-4, 49% comp %, 4 TD 8 INT Stats alone it is Peterman by a landslide.... I forgot Dufek. I’d have to agree when you add the name into the stats, he’s a winner amongst losers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Allen easily the best. Easily. I think Loseman had a terrible name and came in at a terrible time, which the Bills still had hope and the 90s were still in the rearview mirror. The expectations and his performance wasn’t good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Alas, so many to choose from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rubes said: Fun to read article from SportsDrop on each NFL team's best and worst QBs. Just remember, this is the guy our current coach picked to start at one point. Absolutely incredible how this guy ***** the bed when he got the big chance. There have been plenty of really bad QBs for the Bills over the years, but it's hard to argue with just how bad Peterman was when he took the field. Others you would argue were worse? Tyrod was not cutting it when he got benched look no further than his horrible performance against in the playoffs vs the Jaguars. Also if look back some felt Peterman was a 2nd Round talent that we got him in the 5th. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/nathan-peterman/32005045-5407-1806-8416-0c28f3e38ba0 Toss in the the preseason he beat Allen for his preseason he was like the best QB in the preseason. In retrospect we should be thankful Peterman was so horrible as never would have lead us to draft Allen. Edited February 10 by The Jokeman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Motorin' said: Peterman was 1-1 in 2017. I think a lot of guys forget (or never experienced) how bad the team was between Ferguson and Kelly. Vince Ferragamo was 1-8 in 1985, with 5 TD's and 17 INT's. I was excited when we acquired Vince. He had led the Rams to the playoffs multiple times - even as far as the Super Bowl. He threw for 500+ yards in a game once. I thought we had found a credible QB to replace Fergy. Ferragamo was the first QB I saw wearing plays on his wrist. Back in those days, it was a turn-off. I figured he was either too lazy or dumb to learn the playbook. Nonetheless, he threw for 377 yards in his first game as a Bill! We were off and running! It was the only good game he ever had as a Bill. That year, Ferragamo and Bruce Mathison combined for 9 TD passes versus 31 interceptions. We scored a mere 200 points all season long - far and away, the most anemic offense in the league. Both of these QBs richly deserve to be in this conversation. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: Gary Marangi was the worst. Set an NFL record for QB futility in 1976 with a 35.3 completion % that most likely will never be broken. He replaced Joe Ferguson the 2nd half of the season after Fergy had a season ending injury and after 1976 never played another down. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MaraGa00.htm Marangi probably edges out Peterman simply because he played more. 7 starts, 0-7 record. Peterman: 5 starts, and amazingly 1-4 because that one win was when we beat the Colts in OT with Joe Webb at QB. But I'll admit it, it's close ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I was excited when we acquired Vince. He had led the Rams to the playoffs multiple times - even as far as the Super Bowl. He threw for 500+ yards in a game once. I thought we had found a credible QB to replace Fergy. Ferragamo was the first QB I saw wearing plays on his wrist. Back in those days, it was a turn-off. I figured he was either too lazy or dumb to learn the playbook. Nonetheless, he threw for 377 yards in his first game as a Bill! We were off and running! It was the only good game he ever had as a Bill. That year, Ferragamo and Bruce Mathison combined for 9 TD passes versus 31 interceptions. We scored a mere 200 points all season long - far and away, the most anemic offense in the league. Both of these QBs richly deserve to be in this conversation. I remember when he got tackled and messed up his shoulder. He was never the same. He couldn't throw a 10 yard out without lofting it. Too sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, finn said: I loved Kelly, but I don't think there's any question at all that Allen is a better quarterback in every respect. (I don't count hardware, never have.) Kelly was more consistently accurate with the ball, despite the lower completion percentage. Not all good throws are completions. Sometimes receivers drop balls, or are separated from balls with good hits, or step out of bounds... And sometimes QBs throw incompletions intentionally or are hit when throwing the ball... Sometimes, I would watch games and count how many bad throws Kelly made. In most games, there were very, very few. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Dennis Shaw's 1971 season was THE WORST season by a Bills quarterback in our history. 1-11 record, 1,813 passing yards, 11 TDs, 26 INTs, 51.2% completions. My first childhood football hero. Really. In his defense, he messed up his shoulder pretty bad that year. In 1970, he was a slightly more acceptable 3-8-1. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Billy joe Hobert 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Ed Frubek He was so bad, he isn't listed anywhere 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) It's Billy Joe Hobert. I was also lucky enough to see Brian Brohm live and in action. That's a real bad one too. Edited February 10 by DrDawkinstein 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Do Willie Totten or Brian McClure count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Dennis Shaw's 1971 season was THE WORST season by a Bills quarterback in our history. 1-11 record, 1,813 passing yards, 11 TDs, 26 INTs, 51.2% completions. He also had 12 fumbles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, warrior9 said: But he is a strong christian. Just the way Sean likes em.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It is easily Nate Peterman. He. Could. Not. Play. Except he is still in the NFL as a backup most recently in Chicago. If he is really that bad, how is he still in the league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Marcus Aurelius remembers ... Richie Lucas who was a first round pick in both the 1960 NFL draft and the 1960 American Football League draft. Lucas signed with the Buffalo Bills of the newly-formed AFL, making him officially the BILLS first player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Billie Joe "I didn't study the playbook" Neckbert. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: Marcus Aurelius remembers ... Richie Lucas who was a first round pick in both the 1960 NFL draft and the 1960 American Football League draft. Lucas signed with the Buffalo Bills of the newly-formed AFL, making him officially the BILLS first player! Of course he is #11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 All respect to Jimbo, but Josh is the best QB in bills history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Peterman had a fatal flaw that kills QBs in the pros...arm not strong enough to get enough mustard on sideline passes. That leads to pick-city. As much as I criticize McDermott, Taylor couldn't even break 200 yards in a game the week before when the entire 2nd half was garbage time. McD tried something new, and it obviously blew up in his face. That being said, I think Tyrod was a good game manager QB. He was likely hindered a bit by Whaley's clear determination to make the Manuel pick work. That all ended the game he made Anthony Lynn start him against the Jets, and Cardale Jones threw for more yards in the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Brian Brohm takes the cake for me. Two starts, 0 wins, 0 TD's, 5 INT's, 51.9 completion percentage. He had a 9.6 INT percentage, higher than Nathan Peterman's. Peterman at least won a game... Dan Darragh looks pretty bad (before my time). 11 starts, 10 losses. 42.9 completion percentage. 4 TD's, 22 INT's. Gary Marangi. 7 starts, 7 losses. 36.7 completion percentage. 12 TD's, 21 INT's. But yeah, Peterman is up there for sure, especially given the era he played in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: My first childhood football hero. Really. In his defense, he messed up his shoulder pretty bad that year. In 1970, he was a slightly more acceptable 3-8-1. Offemsive Rookie of Year 1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: Kelly was more consistently accurate with the ball, despite the lower completion percentage. Not all good throws are completions. Sometimes receivers drop balls, or are separated from balls with good hits, or step out of bounds... And sometimes QBs throw incompletions intentionally or are hit when throwing the ball... Sometimes, I would watch games and count how many bad throws Kelly made. In most games, there were very, very few. I disagree Kelly threw maddening interceptions similar to Josh. The only difference is he had two Hall of Famers in Reed and Lofton. Then Bill Brooks that was a premier WR in Indy before he got here. Oh and Thurman who was as complete a RB as you'll ever find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Not only that McDermott and Dennison went against the captains request to start him. The entire team had a fight in the locker room over it pissed that McDermott would do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 51 minutes ago, MJS said: Brian Brohm takes the cake for me. Two starts, 0 wins, 0 TD's, 5 INT's, 51.9 completion percentage. He had a 9.6 INT percentage, higher than Nathan Peterman's. Peterman at least won a game... wow. That is a good find. Did not realize Brohm was that bad . he also only lasted two years in the NFl, both with the Bills. for all of Peterman’s issues, the guy is still in the league and has played for three different teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Brandon Weeden worse than Johnny Manziel or Brady Quinn? I don't think so. Seahawks worst QB was Dan McGwire though I concur that Mirer was bad. The writer doesn't back up assertions with stats. Looks written by AI. Great topic, garbage article. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Silly question but is there a bubblegum football card for every starting QB for the Bills. Or any team ? If so who has such a collection im not into that type of thing but a full deck would be kind of cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: Except he is still in the NFL as a backup most recently in Chicago. If he is really that bad, how is he still in the league? I ask myself that. Even though he was still young, when he was cut by the Bills, I thought his NFL career was over. Reports were that he looked good in camp. But his regular season performances were stupefyingly bad. It was the first - and only - time I thought a young guy played himself out of the league. I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Was scrolling through. Seemed a bit suspect. Came to the Browns and it wasn’t Manziel… how can you take it seriously after that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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