Matt_In_NH Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Now the whole defense will be All Pros 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 The run-it-back Bills back to their usual promote from within routine which to this point has been completely disastrous. 1 5 1 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: First off I love what this guy brings. BUT... dors he get 100% control over the defense including play calling. He should. I hope Terry told Sean he needs to step back and just handle HC duties. The guy has worked his butt off amd earned this,congrats to him! McDermott was doing a pretty good job play calling once he had competent play calling on the other side to take the pressure off of both his duties. However it works out it's a good situation for Babich to develop as a defensive play caller. 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Poyer, Hyde, Milano and Bernard all became studs under his coaching Technically his dad had Milano he retired seemingly to let his son to keep taking a bigger role, he's 62 maybe he could come back as the LB coach? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 This is sneaky huge news. He was interviewed for Defensive Coordinator on several teams that have an OFFENSIVE specialized head coach. It was not a given that he took the job with the Bills. One might argue he could showcase his talents better as a play caller and eventual head coach on one of those coaching staffs. He must have loved it in Buffalo or got a great offer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: The run-it-back Bills back to their usual promote from within routine which to this point has been completely disastrous. Sarcasm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Lol. Another completely surprising move from one bills drive. For the 6th year in a row they intend to run it back and try again with the same personnel and will hope for a different result. 2 4 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Now they just need a new STs coach. 4 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: The run-it-back Bills back to their usual promote from within routine which to this point has been completely disastrous. The end result hasn't been what we wanted, but let's not pretend the Bills haven't been one of the most successful franchises of the last 5 years. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: Lol. Another completely surprising move from one bills drive. For the 6th year in a row they intend to run it back and try again with the same personnel and will hope for a different result. “we should get rid of all the coaches the players love and respect and play hard for because I’m mad on the internet” 2 1 3 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: The run-it-back Bills back to their usual promote from within routine which to this point has been completely disastrous. The Bills have consistently ranked in the top 10 and/or top 5 in DVOA and points scored since McDermott arrived. Babich has been a key cog in the coaching wheel the whole time. First he did great work with the safeties, as Hyde and Poyer both became All-Pro caliber players. Then he moved to linebacker, where Milano has developed into an All-Pro and Bernard just had an outstanding sophomore season. I understand ideological frustration with continuity, given that the Bills have yet to win a Super Bowl under McDermott. To complain about this specific move, though, seems like misplaced frustration. Babich is a good coach, as evidenced by his multiple interviews elsewhere, and this is a good hire. 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: “we should get rid of all the coaches the players love and respect and play hard for because I’m mad on the internet” So close to getting the point and you blew straight past it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: So close to getting the point and you blew straight past it. Your point is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 A rising star. Huge "keep" for the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 28 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: What a sham. Did they even interview Leslie Frazier?? Just a 13 second interview on the phone. 1 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 minutes ago, Rigotz said: This is sneaky huge news. He was interviewed for Defensive Coordinator on several teams that have an OFFENSIVE specialized head coach. It was not a given that he took the job with the Bills. One might argue he could showcase his talents better as a play caller and eventual head coach on one of those coaching staffs. He must have loved it in Buffalo or got a great offer. I suspect he will probably be brought up to speed calling the defense with the understanding that, at least initially, situationally McDermott will take the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Your point is? He's just disappointed because he wanted his team to hire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Now they just need a new STs coach. Special teams needs a complete overhaul IMO. I’m not super down on Bass but he is on a warm seat 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 32 minutes ago, Process said: Do we know if Babich will actually be calling plays? I haven't seen or heard anything yet. I'm curious as to how McD envisions this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Lol. Another completely surprising move from one bills drive. For the 6th year in a row they intend to run it back and try again with the same personnel and will hope for a different result. 1) this is coaching staff, not personnel and 2) neither Babich or Brady were our coordinators at the start of last season, so even your "the same people" comment isn't accurate. On the staff, sure? Leading their side of the ball? Took a few weeks for Brady to get that... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 While I think McD did a great job as DC this year, I do love this hire. McD back to focusing on HC duties, and two young promising coordinators who are already well in tune with the players strengths and weaknesses is exciting for next year. What I especially love about Babich is how well he did with young talent to get them ready because I think he is going to find himself with a lot of young players on the defensive side of the ball this year. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 love it! He has definitely earned it with the LB play the past couple seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, transient said: I suspect he will probably be brought up to speed calling the defense with the understanding that, at least initially, situationally McDermott will take the wheel. I'm guessing Babs and McD will both be hand in hand while Bab get OTJ training. That's the smartest to do it, I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 42 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Can’t wait to hear the whining about McDermott’s puppet. Go! Can't wait until he gets fired after a failed punt or something lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 21 minutes ago, Rigotz said: This is sneaky huge news. He was interviewed for Defensive Coordinator on several teams that have an OFFENSIVE specialized head coach. It was not a given that he took the job with the Bills. One might argue he could showcase his talents better as a play caller and eventual head coach on one of those coaching staffs. He must have loved it in Buffalo or got a great offer. what was so sneaky about it? It's been talked about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 We have two young, hip coordinators that will likely be head coaches in the not so distant future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: I haven't seen or heard anything yet. I'm curious as to how McD envisions this Have to imagine there will be a transition to that eventually not sure if it will be this year or not. However, I can't imagine taking a promotion and not eventually being able to run defense how you want. Otherwise he would have been better off trying to get job elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 49 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Can’t wait to hear the whining about McDermott’s puppet. Go! It’s not whining if it’s true🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, nucci said: what was so sneaky about it? It's been talked about Well .... read the responses in this thread. Many thought it was a foregone conclusion. It was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 TIL I had no clue what Babich looks like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Special teams needs a complete overhaul IMO. I’m not super down on Bass but he is on a warm seat Yup. Need to bring in a kicker and punter to compete with Bass and Martin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 43 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: What a sham. Did they even interview Leslie Frazier?? No, but the Dolphins did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpactCorey Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 This is great news! He was previously the waterboy right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Harbaugh at Michigan gives me a bit of hope that new/louder voices and a coach willing to hear those voices and respond with change can break out of a rut. I get the frustration with more internal promotions from a team that has continued to regress for three years, but maybe Babich gets more responsibility and more say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 This entire off season should be him, McDermott, and the rest of the coaching staff locked in a room until the figure out a way to cover Travis Kelce. They should be looking at every game he has played over the last 3 years and charting every coverage to find out what has worked the best. Contrary to popular opinion, he does have very quiet games and figuring out how to take him out of a game should be their primary focus. Mahomes will be Mahomes, but in my opinion, he's not been the reason we haven't been able to beat the Chiefs. We can't beat the Chiefs because Mahomes is throwing the ball to Kelce over and over again because he is running wide open most of the time in the secondary. Any QB could make a lot of those throws to Kelce. So get it figured out...... I know how I would do it, but I've never seen teams actually try it consistently. I've seen it work when teams do try it, but they just don't do it enough. GET PHYSICAL. Some teams do try and jam him off the line and it does work when they are successful in getting their hands on him. Sometimes they miss and get burned, but that is going to happen. He's a good player. If it's me, I'm taking the physicality to an entirely different level. I am finding where he lines up, assigning 2 guys to press him and jam him immediately off the snap and not even allow him to get into a route on time. Almost treat him like a dominant defensive tackle where the guard and center are double teaming him before one of them drops off into their next responsibility. I am not saying you have to never let him release, but just use that 5 yards that press is allowed to it's full extent and make him work for every step. Try and put him on the ground a couple times if you can. Make him work every second on his attempted release. This should throw off the timing enough to allow the pass rush to force Mahomes to look elsewhere. I'm just sick and tired of watching him line up and get a free release against this defense 90% of the time. I know teams can try and limit the physicality on certain guys by stacking them or using motion, but force them to try and do this all the time. Never let them feel comfortable that he is just going to be able to line up and run a route. And, you know what...... If he had 3 for 35 and you still get beat, fine.....I'll live with that. But make no mistake about it, not being able to cover Kelce at all, not Mahomes, has been the main reason we have lost to them in the Playoffs. Yes, our scheme seems to work against most other TEs when we play them, but Kelce kills this team. Figure it out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 20 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: While I think McD did a great job as DC this year, I do love this hire. McD back to focusing on HC duties, and two young promising coordinators who are already well in tune with the players strengths and weaknesses is exciting for next year. What I especially love about Babich is how well he did with young talent to get them ready because I think he is going to find himself with a lot of young players on the defensive side of the ball this year. This is exactly what I wanted to see too. McDermott, while a good DC, needs to go back to the job he's getting paid for, which is Head Coach. Let your coordinators coordinate, and worry about overseeing the ENTIRE team and keeping all 3 units aligned with the single vision, rowing in the same direction. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Well .... read the responses in this thread. Many thought it was a foregone conclusion. It was not. but it wasn't sneaky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just like with Brady staying, I'm indifferent on this. Continuity is great when you are a proven organization that has been to superbowls and won at least one of them. But still get the sense that next year around this time we'll be talking about the same wheels stuck in the mud and Babich being DC not mattering one bit against an elite team/QB in the playoffs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nucci Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: we don't know if either was offered a better opportunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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