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3 hours ago, Drew21PA said:

I mean they did come back and ripped off a killer season - but still you Have to question if they can win a championship 

 

2 straight losses at home in divisional - gotta be better 

I wouldn't call it a killer season. I'd call it a turbulent regular season that ended in a killer fashion. 

 

I call the playoff run very disappointing and underwhelming. 

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46 minutes ago, major said:

Compare McDermott to Dan Campbell in Detroit. I understand people have different personalities; however, each team seems to take on the identity of their leader. Dan Campbell looks like he’d run through a wall and his team has taken on that mentality in Detroit. McDermott doesn’t instill that killer attitude in our team. 


One has balls and trusts his players and one does not. 

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13 hours ago, Success said:

 

I commented the other night that in his post-game presser, it seemed like there were a lot of things he wasn't saying.  I didn't want to read too much into it - but he HAS to be frustrated that he's still carrying this team, and by playing as well as he is & coming up short yet again.

 

And we can see why this week.  In addition to it just being disappointing, half of the talk in the media is stuff like "is Allen overrated?", and dissecting his decision to go for an OPEN TD like he threw a pick into triple coverage.

 

I can't name another Bill who made an impact play on Sunday.  The defense - McD's specialty - was an epic letdown for a 3rd year in a row.

 

 

 

Agree. I almost hold a little resentment towards McD because he's holding back Allen. 

 

Allen at the least should have a SB appearance and all likelihood at least one ring. 

 

I can't imagine what Josh really thinks about 13 seconds. That was the most dominate and spectacular QB playoff performance perhaps in the history of the NFL. 

 

Coach McD ripped out Allen's heart before our very eyes. The narrative by many is Allen is owned by Allen. McD definitely contributed to that narrative. 

 

I believe the team never fully recovered from that devastating day. Perhaps subconsciously the players can't get it done. The proof is in the next two years that followed. 

 

Cinci thrashed the Bills at home. The team was unprepared and not ready to play. That's really not up for debate. I know there were extra ordinary circumstances in play. But, since when doesn't a coach receive criticism for that. Isn't it the very job of a coach? Yet, he got a free pass from the soft media and gullible fan base. Jerry Sullivan where were you? 

 

The Bills finally got their dream scenario. A home playoff match up vs the Chiefs. Catching the Chiefs when they look more then beatable and less dangerous. What could go wrong? 

 

Coach McD and the Bills players walked off the frat in defeat in front of their fans.  An all too familiar scenario. 

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7 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Get a guy who actually makes this catch still cranky about this 

 

 

 

It’s just incredible how far he threw this damn thing - sheesh 6 points and this place is going NUTS

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This is the season to move on from Diggs, no choice on Miller. Admit failure and move on. Maybe Hyde will play on a one year deal, who knows ? All that assumes Mr. 13 seconds will be back as coach. I’m dreaming. Most likely, little will change, we will win but not a championship. This coach will never get us there. He had his chance in ‘21. That was it. We will literally have to suffer several more years of his garbage pressers and excuses. Unless Reid retires or has a stroke, we are stuck on the 13th floor. (See what I did there?)

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25 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Agree. I almost hold a little resentment towards McD because he's holding back Allen. 

 

Allen at the least should have a SB appearance and all likelihood at least one ring. 

 

I can't imagine what Josh really thinks about 13 seconds. That was the most dominate and spectacular QB playoff performance perhaps in the history of the NFL. 

 

Coach McD ripped out Allen's heart before our very eyes. The narrative by many is Allen is owned by Allen. McD definitely contributed to that narrative. 

 

I believe the team never fully recovered from that devastating day. Perhaps subconsciously the players can't get it done. The proof is in the next two years that followed. 

 

Cinci thrashed the Bills at home. The team was unprepared and not ready to play. That's really not up for debate. I know there were extra ordinary circumstances in play. But, since when doesn't a coach receive criticism for that. Isn't it the very job of a coach? Yet, he got a free pass from the soft media and gullible fan base. Jerry Sullivan where were you? 

 

The Bills finally got their dream scenario. A home playoff match up vs the Chiefs. Catching the Chiefs when they look more then beatable and less dangerous. What could go wrong? 

 

Coach McD and the Bills players walked off the frat in defeat in front of their fans. An An all too familiar scenario. 


What’s crazy is that this is the downside of Allen’s humility and ultimate respect. Sometimes the truth hurts and difficult decisions need to be made. At the end of the day, that’s the only way change can happen. We need Josh to save us once again. 

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1. I thought the media asked decent questions for a change to both guys

2. McD was quite defensive at the start bragging about the division titles and 10 win seasons and then saying injuries are not the excuse while of course implying they are the excuse.. He knows he is in the hot seat next year

3. Winner's mindset BS.  I love how the final reporter called him out on that and asked that's fine but how does that translate onto the field? Brilliant on her part!!!  Of course he had no answer because it is all BS

4. I think for the first time a reporter asked Beane if he could fire McD and now we all know what we excepted only Terry can pull that trigger. 

5. Beane basically said McD gets what he wants - the example cited as deferring to McD if he really wanted to be the DC again

 

I know I am a broken record. But McD is a barley capable DC with a superstar QB that wins despite his HC.  

52 minutes ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said:

This is the season to move on from Diggs, no choice on Miller. Admit failure and move on. Maybe Hyde will play on a one year deal, who knows ? All that assumes Mr. 13 seconds will be back as coach. I’m dreaming. Most likely, little will change, we will win but not a championship. This coach will never get us there. He had his chance in ‘21. That was it. We will literally have to suffer several more years of his garbage pressers and excuses. Unless Reid retires or has a stroke, we are stuck on the 13th floor. (See what I did there?)

If you think Diggs should go and Hyde should stay, you need to take a moment and really reflect on what you are seeing on the field.

 

As for McD we are in lock step agreement!

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I just got home and have not watched either press conference.

 

Did McD actually say anything really substantive and interesting?

 

He usually is a master of saying a lot of words without saying anything.

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Most other years, I wouldn't be all gung ho about replacing the HC.

 

But this year is unbelievably unique.  I don't think it's a stretch to say it's a once in a decade opportunity, with the coaches who are actually available.

 

What if we get knocked out in the WC or divisional next year, and THEN decide it's finally time to move on?  We'll have our choice of hyped coordinators, who typically fizzle at the HC job.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Murdox said:

The failure to identify the little things concerns me about this coaching staff.  McDermott had such little faith in the Bills depleted defense stopping the Chiefs that he tried the fake punt.  So, the logical thing would be for the coaching staff - at the two-muinute warning - to tell Josh to focus on the short passes - make the underneath pass the primary read to get a first down so you can continue to run clock and force the Chiefs to use the final 2 timeouts.  The Chiefs were playing safe and protecting the end zone so those passes would have been (and were) open.  Clearly, that DID NOT happen.  Josh's eyes were down field on both of the following 2 plays.  That was a mistake in my book based on the situation.  McDermott and his crew sometimes fail to play situational football.

Shakir was wide open in the endzone.  If they were playing the end-zone they weren't doing a good job of it. 2nd and 9 to the endzone was fine. I would have called a different play but to go up 4 with less than 2 min to play you take it when you can.  

3rd and 9 has to be a short pass that gives them the option of getting a first down on 4th down or kicking a short FG.  

5 minutes ago, Peter said:

I just got home and have not watched either press conference.

 

Did McD actually say anything really substantive and interesting?

 

He usually is a master of saying a lot of words without saying anything.

You won't be shocked at the stupidity of his answers.  You will be shocked at the media finally asking some decent questions. 

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Everyone is talking about the Diggs drop but I’m not seeing anyone talk about both of Sherfield’s big drops.  
 

Sherfield shouldn’t have gotten so many damn reps this season.  Receiver was a position of need going into the season and proved to be a position of need going into the trade deadline.  Beane sat on his hands and traded for a corner.  These guys can say whatever they want in their press conferences.  What they actually do shows they don’t understand how to win.  

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13 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

McD was quite defensive at the start bragging about the division titles and 10 win seasons

I found that amusing: the coach at a end-of-season press conference telling the media how good the team has been for multiple seasons:

 

"Good season overall. When you can have the success that we've had through six out of seven years in the playoffs I think is significant and hard to do, as well as four AFC East titles and now five-plus years of 10-plus wins is impressive and did not come easy."

 

I'm surprised he didn't strain a muscle patting himself on the back so much. Maybe he wanted to help the press out by writing the story for them.

 

Yes, quite defensive and if he's not feeling heat from somewhere I bet he expects to feel it burn soon if we don't do better next year.

 

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6 hours ago, Low Positive said:

I don't think that he ***** his pants this time. I think that Chris Jones made a play. Also, if the BIlls had won the game you could say that the Andy Reid ***** his pants with that trick play call on the goal line. Run Pacheco straight ahead and it's a sure 7 points and probably the game.  Listen, I would not shed a single tear if Pegula fired McDermott today. I think that he's pretty good as a leader of men but I don't like his game management skills and I want someone who could bring some of that Shanahan magic. I think that Josh needs a new voice and a completely new offensive system. Not because what the Bills are doing is not working, but I think there needs to be a shakeup. But I also don't think that McDermott was the absolute cause of this loss. The Bills were not "embarrassed" and Reid didn't "completely outcoach" McDermott. Both offenses moved the ball pretty much at will, but the Chiefs made a few extra plays. I will give you that the Chiefs made better HT adjustments, but that's because they had to. We were winning at the half and running the ball with ease. In the end, it was a close game between two good teams. Again, Jones made a heck of a play driving Dion into Josh, or else the Bills may have won the game. That was, BTW, the first great play that Jones made all game. But people on this board are talking like the BIlls got boat raced like the Cowboys did. I get the frustration. I tore my Bills hat apart in the heat of the loss and declared that I was no longer a fan of the Buffalo Bills (I do this every year). My 18-yo daughter broke down in tears. My son didn't call me for 2 days and I still haven't spoken to my mother about the game. But after a few days now I am ready to move on. I also know that Pegula is not firing McDermott so getting worked up about that is futile. I will say that if the Bills draft that white CB from Iowa I will lose my 💩.

Other than chasing Allen down and forcing a fumble, just a few plays earlier.

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Without Allen, McD was gone long ago. 
I just feel bad for players like Josh and Dion. And me. McD can’t match against the top 8 coaches

1 minute ago, JohninMinn. said:

 

I wish McD would have told the team we won't let Kelce beat us and this is how.

 

McD “let’s not cover him and hope Taylor distracts him with a heart sign?”

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3 hours ago, major said:

Compare McDermott to Dan Campbell in Detroit. I understand people have different personalities; however, each team seems to take on the identity of their leader. Dan Campbell looks like he’d run through a wall and his team has taken on that mentality in Detroit. McDermott doesn’t instill that killer attitude in our team. 

 

Er..... are you trying to say Detroit always plays as though they're trying to run through a wall?  🤔

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55 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said:

I wish McD would have told the team we won't let Kelce beat us and this is how.

 

Guys, Come On.  I don't have the coaches film to watch, and I'm not the coverage expert that some here are.  But I can pick at some strategy and guess at others.

 

It's not just not that simple.    The Chiefs played 47 plays.  They hit big plays on what, 7?  8 plays?  Of which one was a Mahomes run, one was Edwards-Helaire, a couple were MVS and Rashee Rice.  Two were to Kelce, plus a short pass TD.

 

Maybe their problem is McDermott told them "we won't let Kelce beat us and here's how" so CEH, Rice, MVS and Patty did?  The name of the game is also to understand the coverage rules, and try to manipulate the play to force advantageous coverage on Kelce.

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I have have a few opinions about McD and Beane.  

 

McD & Beane are obviously out of their minds if they thinks tweaking the roster gets us over the top.  This guy said again in the press conference "The Process"  Your F***ing process no longer works for this team.

 

Wake the hell up, your process is broken.  You have had 7 years as a coach and you have not been able to elevate this team to the next level a AFCCG win.  The first two years are sadly forgivable due to player turnover from the Doug Whaley & Rex Ryan era. 

 

1) They can not beat Reid & KC or Mahomes and they never will in the playoffs.   His attitude about little tweaks is the reason why he is not the right coach to take this team to the next level.  You don't tweak what is broken, broken items are replaced.  This teams future will remain just broken promises as long as these two guys are in control.

 

2) His lack of coaching expertise on this team to reach its maximum potential is just pathetic.  He had 7 years to find & implement a championship level style of football play, our OC's and DC's that coach this team have failed to win this team a Super Bowl, and its the same excuses and crap every year, losing to the elite teams in the playoffs even when you have the home field advantage.  A NFL analyst this week hit it 100% right on top of the head.  Beane and McD have not given Josh any help to even out the teams balance on offense. It was in 2014 Buffalo last took a WR in the 1st round Sammy Watkins.  No number two's or three's either in the last 5 years.  The only WR in the 2nd round was Zay Jones in 2017 who is now long gone.  Not one true game changing receiver drafted by this team to help take the load off Allen, accept for Digg's.  Digg's right now is a shell of what he was last year. 

 

When you get punched in the mouth by a bully, year after year, and you do nothing to stop it from happening to you again, you deserve what you get.

 

This team with McD and Beane at the helm is turning us into the Dallas Cowboys of the AFC.  They are a good team but they will never be great.    Anyone who thinks this team will have success winning a SB with McD as coach and Beane pulling the strings as GM, are in for a huge disappointment.

 

This team is destined for only trying to win the division every year,  nothing more without drastic changes.   McD at the press conference was more concerned about the streak of 5 plus seasons with 10 wins.  Not the fact that 7 years has passed and this team has not won a AFCCG to advance to a Super bowl.

 

McD and Beane are entrenched on being just a winning team and not a championship winning team.

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

I have have a few opinions about McD and Beane.  

 

McD & Beane are obviously out of their minds if they thinks tweaking the roster gets us over the top.  This guy said again in the press conference "The Process"  Your F***ing process no longer works for this team.

 

Wake the hell up, your process is broken.  You have had 7 years as a coach and you have not been able to elevate this team to the next level a AFCCG win.  The first two years are sadly forgivable due to player turnover from the Doug Whaley & Rex Ryan era. 

 

1) They can not beat Reid & KC or Mahomes and they never will in the playoffs.   His attitude about little tweaks is the reason why he is not the right coach to take this team to the next level.  You don't tweak what is broken, broken items are replaced.  This teams future will remain just broken promises as long as these two guys are in control.

 

2) His lack of coaching expertise on this team to reach its maximum potential is just pathetic.  He had 7 years to find implement a championship level style of football play, our OC's and DC's that coach this team have failed to win this team a Super Bowl, and its the same excuses and crap every year, losing to the elite teams in the playoffs even when you have the home field advantage.  A NFL analyst this week hit it 100% right on top of the head.  Beane and McD have not given Josh any help to even out the teams balance on offence. It was in 2014 Buffalo last took a WR in the 1st round Sammy Watkins.  No number two's or three's either in the last 5 years.  They only 2nd round pick at WR was Zay Jones in 2017 who is now long gone.  Not one true game changing receiver drafted by this team to help take the load off Allen, accept for Digg's.  Digg's right now is a shell of what he was last year. 

 

When you get punched in the mouth by a bully, year after year, and you do nothing to stop it from happening to you again, you deserve what you get.

 

This team with McD and Beane at the helm is turning us into the Dallas Cowboys of the AFC.  They are a good team but they will never be great.    Anyone who thinks this team will have success winning a SB with McD as coach and Beane pulling the strings as GM, are in for a huge disappointment.

 

This team is destined for only trying to win the division every year,  nothing more without drastic changes.   McD at the press conference was more concerned about the streak of 5 plus seasons with 10 wins.  Not the fact that 7 years has passed and this team has not won a AFCCG to advance to a Super bowl.

 

McD and Beane are entrenched on being just a winning team and not a championship winning team.

 

 

 

 

Didn’t read the whole thing. But you don’t think they can beat Mahomes and Reid after their last two playoff meetings? Those games go either way.

 

This isn’t Jimmy Johnson dominating Marv Levy.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Didn’t read the whole thing. But you don’t think they can beat Mahomes and Reid after their last two playoff meetings? Those games go either way.

 

This isn’t Jimmy Johnson dominating Marv Levy.

 

 

No they cant, this is the weakest KC has been in years on offense and they still could not beat them even playing at home.  This was the year to beat them when it counts in the playoffs, and playing at home and they lost again... The regular season means squat..  What you do in the postseason is what matters.

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9 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:

No they cant, this is the weakest KC has been in years on offense and they still could not beat them even playing at home.  This was the year to beat them when it counts in the playoffs, and playing at home and they lost again... The regular season means squat..  What you do in the postseason is what matters.

They definitely could’ve and should’ve beat KC. That’s why people want a coaching change. KC is not that much better, it’s a few plays here and there.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Julio Hopkins said:

Everyone is talking about the Diggs drop but I’m not seeing anyone talk about both of Sherfield’s big drops.  
 

Sherfield shouldn’t have gotten so many damn reps this season.  Receiver was a position of need going into the season and proved to be a position of need going into the trade deadline.  Beane sat on his hands and traded for a corner.  These guys can say whatever they want in their press conferences.  What they actually do shows they don’t understand how to win.  

In fairness, Sherfields first drop was clearly DPI missed by the official. DB had his arm so he couldn’t get 2 hands on the ball. 
 

Burns me that they let this one go, but called a dpi on 42 that clearly wasn’t dpi. 

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11 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:


Does Josh still need this level of micromanagement after 6 years ? 

If Allen threw in the endzone, it's because we told him he can.

 

If it's clear for a HC in that kind of situation, it will be clear for your Elite QB and all players. 

It wasnt clear at all, it's the least i can say.

 

 

I understand Mcdermott. We talk about a good HC and an Elite QB.

It was like: I dont know what to do, i hope my Elite QB will.

It was the samething with our defense in this 13 seconds. Nothing was clear.

 

It's a pattern now.

 

An Elite QB dosent need an Elite HC in season. Just a good one and we will have a good chance to be in the playoff at the end of the season.

Against the best when it counts the most, he will. It will be the difference between a W or a L.

 

It's a pattern like i said. It's pretty clear if we just take a little step back.

 

I will wear my red roses glasses again next year and hoping i am wrong. It's the best i can do as a fan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Are you talking about the defense that was so good it allowed 3 teams that were trailing with less then 2 minutes to go in the game to come back and win?  And 2 of those teams had horrible offenses and QB's.  The most important job a D has is to hold a lead given them by the O in the last 2 minutes of a game.

 

 

 

No, I'm talking about the D that had to get 4 turnovers and a TD to beat NE at home.  Or the team that had to stop the Giants at home in primetime because the offense put up 14 points.  Or the D that had to defend Tampa on a hail mary because the offense 7 points in the entire second half.  

 

The games we lost (other than Philly) was because the offense was terrible even though the D held up.

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9 hours ago, Toyo321 said:

No they cant, this is the weakest KC has been in years on offense and they still could not beat them even playing at home.  This was the year to beat them when it counts in the playoffs, and playing at home and they lost again... The regular season means squat..  What you do in the postseason is what matters.

So this means we they have no chance to ever beat them…… 🤣 

9 hours ago, pennstate10 said:

In fairness, Sherfields first drop was clearly DPI missed by the official. DB had his arm so he couldn’t get 2 hands on the ball. 
 

Burns me that they let this one go, but called a dpi on 42 that clearly wasn’t dpi. 

Hochuli strikes again 

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Made it through McDermott’s, nothing much to take from it.

 

Listening to Beane, maybe he is still got in-season mode on, but when asked about the TE room going forward he answered by stating Kincaid and Knox give Brady a lot of options/versatility.


Point being, I think Brady may already be a lock for OC.

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12 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

 

4. I think for the first time a reporter asked Beane if he could fire McD and now we all know what we excepted only Terry can pull that trigger. 

 

That's not really that good a question, it's really obvious, no GM can fire the HC, it's always an ownership decision.

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From The Atheltic:

 

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Chiefs cornerback Trent McDuffie shrugged when asked what their secondary did to lock up Diggs.

“Honestly, I feel like it was what they was doing,” McDuffie said. “They were trying to run the ball. They put big personnel in. I think they figured we were going to double him tonight, which we didn’t.”

The Chiefs didn’t need to use double coverage because they were confident in L’Jarius Sneedfollowing Diggs around. The Bills moved Diggs into different spots in the formation, but it didn’t yield better results.

“We put LJ on him and it was over with,” Chiefs safety Justin Reid said.

“He knew what was up,” Sneed said. “He knew he wasn’t going to get the ball a lot. He wasn’t frustrated.”

Dear Beane, we need a young, big, fast and physical WR1 in the mold of DK Metcalf. Thank you.

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3 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

 

No, I'm talking about the D that had to get 4 turnovers and a TD to beat NE at home.  Or the team that had to stop the Giants at home in primetime because the offense put up 14 points.  Or the D that had to defend Tampa on a hail mary because the offense 7 points in the entire second half.  

 

The games we lost (other than Philly) was because the offense was terrible even though the D held up.

Again we lost 3 games when the O gave the D the lead with less then 2 minutes left on the clock. 

 

Sure the D won a couple of games as did the O.  But given the uneven allocation of resources over the last 5 years the D should be winning a lot more games then the offense.  And in the playoff losses the O has played in all those games except one.  In contrast the defense has been awful in every playoff loss.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Brand J said:

From The Atheltic:

 

Dear Beane, we need a young, big, fast and physical WR1 in the mold of DK Metcalf. Thank you.

And we've needed one for the last 3 years.  Their refusal to get this hugely valuable piece (D Hopp anyone?) for Allen and the Offense has been a case of football malpractice.

 

 

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22 hours ago, phypon said:

I don't like this guy.  I don't think he's a good dude.  Was it last year or the year before when he barked at a question about injuries and said something to the effect of "I have faith in every player on this team!!".  This year, "we weren't as healthy as I would have liked to be".  Which is it dude?  F this guy.  The best word to describe him is "inconsistent". Full of excuses and passes blame onto others.  He even said Josh is maturing and he's getting there.  Really?  How about keep that one to yourself, just sounds like more blame and excuses.  I can see why so many people are fed up with him. 

 

So that makes total sense ! He has faith in the players (starters & Depth) that are practicing to be depth players (Next man up) if he didn't they wouldn't be there RIGHT ? And this year & last they did a decent job just not like their pro bowlers would have done or did while they were playing before getting hurt . 

 

And although you have depth players why in the hell wouldn't you want the team in general to be healthier when you have 4 pro bowl players at critical positions in order to be a great D hurt ?????

 

You want your pro bowl players on the field period, so after 3 of them going down and 1 trying to get back to full strength from a ACL injury on a pitch count and even a healthy scratch at 1 point that's wrong to think you would rather have them healthy & not hurt ????? 

 

Sorry but i in no way understand your opinion of him .

 

Here's a argument about his being Inconsistent in his 7 years as HC ???

 

5+ years of 10 or more wins, 4 AFC east titles, 5 straight play off berths & 6 out of his 7 years while HC in the play offs, yep his consistency just flat out SUCKS !!!! 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/McDeSe0.htm

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Listening to McDermott’s press conference, I am reminded of this passage from Moby Dick:


“Ahab is forever Ahab, man. This whole act's immutably decreed. 'Twas rehearsed by thee and me a billion years before this ocean rolled. Fool! I am the Fates' lieutenant; I act under orders.”


We all know what is coming next year, the Bills will either crash and burn in the season or early in the playoffs and McDermott will come back and say we are close. 

 

Nothing changes if nothing is changed.

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23 hours ago, DanInUticaTampa said:

Sounds like Micah Hyde isn't going to be returning. I don't remember the exact quote, but he said something like "before the game when they announced the players out of the tunnel that it might be the last time Hydes name called at home."

Toss in his wife put out a goodbye letter on Instagram either yesterday or this morning. I'm sorry to lose him, I just hope we can find a replacement sooner than later. 

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1 hour ago, NewEra said:

So this means we they have no chance to ever beat them…… 🤣 

Hochuli strikes again 

Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid have such a higher level of excellence at this point it is foolish to even theorize that our team with our coaching will ever out duel them in the playoffs.  They did not make any mistakes that cost them the game and we did, and this time it was on our own home field.  This trend has been this way for three playoff games vs KC in the last 4 years.  Not leaving out the ass whooping the Bengals gave us last year too.

Patrick Mahomes playing in Buffalo made every play he needed to make, to win that game.  KC had 47 snaps and included three kneel downs in this game.  We had the time of possession edge, play count edge and we still lost. Our Defense could not stop them, our coaching could not stop them, our offense could not out score them, and our special teams could not compete and perform at the highest level when asked of them.

 

Josh Allen did not make every play he had to have to win this game, neither did our receivers or our special teams players.   Sad but true.

 

This almost proves my point, Josh Allen has to play at the highest level of any other NFL player for this team to win.  There is no other team that relies so much on one player to win.  Why??  Because Beane and McD have given no elite talent for the offense & Josh to utilize.  Cook is good but he no Christen McCaffery, Kincaid has potential but we don't have a OC that utilizes him to his full potential.

Diggs is on the decline and there are many other receivers out there that are out performing him right now, Diggs was not even in the top 10 receivers, stat wise this year. There is no other player on our offense that I would even make a case for as elite.  Shakir is being used as a 3rd option behind Gabe, and Gabe is just too unreliable.

 

So long as McD and Beane are in charge we loose to KC every time in the post season until something drastically changes with our personnel or Andy Reid retires, and Mahomes literally looses all of his offensive weapons.  Because their player personnel is always better than ours when it matters the most, in the post season.  The facts are in black and white and undisputable at this point.  They are 3-0 against us in playoff elimination games in the Josh Allen era.

 

KC in the playoffs vs McD, Beane and Josh are the superior team.  Until drastic changes happen to this team this trend will continue.

Beane & McD tweaking the personnel has not worked in 7 years.  So now it will just magically & automatically work for us in 2024 with tweaks??   Please....get real.

 

KC & Reid & Mahomes > Buffalo & McD & Allen.

 

Like I said you can't dispute this.  Winning as team is all that matters, and KC as a whole continues to do this better in the playoffs than Buffalo does.

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12 minutes ago, T master said:

 

So that makes total sense ! He has faith in the players (starters & Depth) that are practicing to be depth players (Next man up) if he didn't they wouldn't be there RIGHT ? And this year & last they did a decent job just not like their pro bowlers would have done or did while they were playing before getting hurt . 

 

And although you have depth players why in the hell wouldn't you want the team in general to be healthier when you have 4 pro bowl players at critical positions in order to be a great D hurt ?????

 

You want your pro bowl players on the field period, so after 3 of them going down and 1 trying to get back to full strength from a ACL injury on a pitch count and even a healthy scratch at 1 point that's wrong to think you would rather have them healthy & not hurt ????? 

 

Sorry but i in no way understand your opinion of him .

 

Here's a argument about his being Inconsistent in his 7 years as HC ???

 

5+ years of 10 or more wins, 4 AFC east titles, 5 straight play off berths & 6 out of his 7 years while HC in the play offs, yep his consistency just flat out SUCKS !!!! 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/McDeSe0.htm

 

I've already posted about the titles in a another thread, so I'm not going to reiterate it here.  It's not the accomplishment you make it out to be.  

 

With how he played Klein, he clearly doesn't trust his young players.  

 

The only thing consistent is his D not coming through in the playoffs.

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10 hours ago, Toyo321 said:

No they cant, this is the weakest KC has been in years on offense and they still could not beat them even playing at home.  This was the year to beat them when it counts in the playoffs, and playing at home and they lost again... The regular season means squat..  What you do in the postseason is what matters.

This is what kills us. We squander opportunity. 

The entire season we coach to make the playoffs and our systems are good enough. In the playoffs our systems need to be better or change.  You watch KC's D get better as they also win.  They find ways to get Jones and McDuffy and defenders who are physical and make them a tough team to play.  They play tight coverage where you have to earn every yard. Playoff football.  Meanwhile we draft in similar spots and find pretenders who don't match their draft status.  We draft non physical finesse type players who fit a system instead of changing style and adapting to what is needed.  Meanwhile you go years ignoring the side of the ball you should have focused on in the first place.

My question is who dictates the type of players we go after. I suspect the coach mostly and the GM tries to satisfy his request for what type of player.  Together they have to look in the mirror and do and honest appraisal of how they constructed this team.  I don't think this happens for Beane because he sees the team through McD's rose colored glasses. To him we are almost there.  

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

That's not true. Some organizations have the HC report to the GM or Pressient of Operations or whatever title they have. 

 

It doesn't matter the GM is never going to have the authority to fire the HC without ownership signing off on it, the question is pointless.

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