Warcodered Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, boyst said: he took credit for firing Dorsey. that's not how it went down. i had been sitting on this because of how i found out. but he was not the one to push Dorsey out. remember that team meeting? the players voted him out. Even if that is the case, I'm not sure why you're mad at McDermott saying he fired him, there's no way in hell he's putting that out there, it's an awful look for Dorsey and the team, and the players probably don't want to put that on Dorsey either. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer can shower Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Both McDermott and Beane have no choice but to not criticize Bass because they signed him to that large contract and big cap hit if they let him go. (I am not criticizing Bass) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 35 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: How is this not Dick Jauron all over again? He basically just said “it’s hard to win in the NFL.” He’s literally Dick with an elite QB. I've said this for years and been flamed for it. Doug Marrone and Rex Ryan would have taken this team to at least one superbowl by now. Won't go as far to say win it but they were/are upgrades with a QB like Josh Allen. And before people brush this off remember that both have won road playoff games (something McD has never done) and both have been to at least one AFCCG which is the same career highlight as McD. They also did this with Blake Bortles and Mark Sanchez as their respective starting QB's. Edited January 23 by FilthyBeast 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Reading between the lines this is what I came up with: -McDermott will still call the defense -Joe Brady will be OC - Special Teams Coach will stay - Sherfield and Harty were misses in free agency - Tre White and Von Miller will be back - Elam time here is all but over - Resigning Daquan Jones is a priority -Beane regrets not having enough LB depth - Don’t expect big splashes in free agency - Micah Hyde will be gone - They need a playmaker opposite Diggs Edited January 23 by BillMafia716ix 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, beer can shower said: Both McDermott and Beane have no choice but to not criticize Bass because they signed him to that large contract and big cap hit if they let him go. (I am not criticizing Bass) Go ahead and criticize Bass. He was 2 for 5 in the playoffs and missed the game tying FG! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said: I watched Josh last night. This is going to come out wrong and be taken to mean what I’m not intending but: He seemed too chill about losing. He said the right things. He gave the right answers. He wasn’t happy but he seemed resigned to it. Like a beaten person. Remember the anger on here for Mahomes’ act after the first loss. It KILLED him to lose against Josh/Bills in the end of a close game. He wasn’t supposed to lose! Mahomes and Kelcie and Reid were NOT losing this game. I think Josh is at the point of, What else can I do. Record breaking performances and they still beat us. Edit: End of season presser https://www.facebook.com/share/v/rKGcqqMvvawzxE8v/?mibextid=WC7FNe I can’t stomach to watch McDermott word drool into a mic. A pox on him and his process. There's nothing else Allen can do. Mahomes benefits from great coaches and teammates who make plays when it matters most. Allen doesn't have that benefit. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 36 minutes ago, HappyDays said: So at least we know they are actively going to focus on finding better WRs this offseason. All of this makes me laugh. After the Divisional Round last year, Beane went to the podium and talked about how Cincinnati could draft JaMarr Chase because Burrow got hurt as a rookie. Right now, I take nothing they say (particularly given the timing) at face value. They know the audience is unhappy and media availability is to signal to players certain messages and placate the disappointed fans. 21 minutes ago, boyst said: this is big. Beane is so much better for press conferences and seems more like a coach than GM. McDermott flat out lied in his presser, too. which pisses me off. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said: I watched Josh last night. This is going to come out wrong and be taken to mean what I’m not intending but: He seemed too chill about losing. He said the right things. He gave the right answers. He wasn’t happy but he seemed resigned to it. Like a beaten person. Remember the anger on here for Mahomes’ act after the first loss. It KILLED him to lose against Josh/Bills in the end of a close game. He wasn’t supposed to lose! Mahomes and Kelcie and Reid were NOT losing this game. I think Josh is at the point of, What else can I do. Record breaking performances and they still beat us. Edit: End of season presser https://www.facebook.com/share/v/rKGcqqMvvawzxE8v/?mibextid=WC7FNe I can’t stomach to watch McDermott word drool into a mic. A pox on him and his process. Above is your original post...notice the bolded 16 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Again I couldn’t/didn’t watch the post game pressers because of my own pain. I am not accusing Josh of not caring. I am suggesting that he is starting to build an immunity to it due to recurring contact with it. He has carried the Bills for four seasons now, squarely on his shoulders. People( not me) are complaining he didn’t hit Diggs at the end instead of throwing it into the EZ. Have him and Mahomes switch places for that game and KC wins going away because Mahomes isn’t getting us those first downs and TDs with his legs by bullrushing. I blame this on Coaching!!!! He is making various mediocre coaches look more capable than they are. In the bolded you just replied with here you seem to be contradicting your original post and now saying you didn't watch the post game presser. So I don't get it, when was Allen "chill about losing"..."saying the right things"..."giving the right answers"..."wasn't happy but resigned to it"..."like a beaten person"...if it wasn't in his presser you now say you didn't watch? I don't disagree that there shouldn't be a concern with major disappointing losses starting to become a culture and affecting the players to where they get almost numb to it. Heck I am practically numb to it at this point. All of our playoff losses have been hard to take going all the way back to Houston even. BUT...I don't know how you can say you saw any of that with Josh, especially now if you claim you didn't watch the press conference despite alluding to watching it in your first post. The one player on this team you don't have to worry about is Josh. He wants it as bad as any Bills fan and hurst just as much when they don't get it done. And you can see how hard he was taking it to in the press conference you may or may not have watched. I have all the confidence in the world in Josh's mentality and coming back as committed and focused as he always has been to winning the Super Bowl here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I just keep thinking about 'continuity' and the idea that this regime deserves to be here no matter what but then I look at a team like the Texans who picked #2 overall in the draft last year because they were terrible and then just one year later with a rookie head coach and QB had the same exact success and Beane and McDivisionals Bills.....a division title and losing in the divisional round. So again, what am I missing here....or more importantly what is Terry Pegula missing seeing other teams do this year after year so quickly? 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Even if that is the case, I'm not sure why you're mad at McDermott saying he fired him, there's no way in hell he's putting that out there, it's an awful look for Dorsey and the team, and the players probably don't want to put that on Dorsey either. Right. Plus, it’s still ultimately McD’s call. Unless @boyst is saying the players took it to Pegula, and Pegula told McD that Dorsey had to go. At the same time, does this mean McD/Pegula waited until after the Denver game to actually pull the trigger on what the players voted for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 23 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Who else is available to be OC if not Brady? Almost sounds like they have someone in mind they want to speak with I bet it’s Arthur Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer can shower Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: Go ahead and criticize Bass. He was 2 for 5 in the playoffs and missed the game tying FG! Lets criticize the ones that signed a kicker to that 4 year 20 million dollar contract with very little cap space. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 20 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I don't disregard the worth of a WR who has good separation skills. I do disagree with the 1 or 2 jump ball catches 40 yards down field. I'm not talking about a high dollar 1,000-yard guy per year needed here. But nothing will change my mind that of the 4 WRs playing on gameday that having this option is not needed. No one, even Josh, knows how that could benefit the team. He has never had one. The Bills have the separation guy in Diggs. Shakir can still develop what he is good at, and Kincaid can get a ball but will never have the speed needed to stretch the field they way that is needed. I wouldn't say he has never had one though to be honest...Diggs was the number 1 deep ball WR in the NFL when we traded for him. He may not be big, but he played big. Then Davis has been a big target for him too. But Davis gets back to my original point where as I would rather have someone who consistently gets separation and always catches the ball then just a guy who has some occassional big jump balls. Davis only value was really on those straight line deep balls, and because of that he would disappear or barely factor in most games and then have a couple big games where he had those big downfield catches for TD's. Again, don't disagree it would be nice, I just don't want another Davis...if we bring some big target in, they need to be more reliable than Davis was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 18 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It's slim pickins, for sure. A couple of us did some digging in a previous thread. Best outside candidate I can come up with is maybe Klint Kubiak. Have to imagine that with offensive coaches seemingly being favorites to get new head coaching jobs, working for a defensive coach could be appealing as you will be given more say and control 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 25 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Would it make you feel better if he was yelling and pounding the table? C’mon, they DID get eliminated- like 31 other teams. The idea that it is win the Super Bowl else season is a total failure is talk-show induced bs. Yeah, we wanted them to win. Fans of all 32 teams want their team to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, beer can shower said: Lets criticize the ones that signed a kicker to that 4 year 20 million dollar contract with very little cap space. He was paid to make that kick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: There's nothing else Allen can do. Mahomes benefits from great coaches and teammates who make plays when it matters most. Allen doesn't have that benefit. It's so demoralizing because some of it goes even beyond the coaching.. Chiefs WR's were terrible all year. Playoffs come along and MVS is making contested catches 30 yards down the field with our All-Pro Corner draped all over him. Meanwhile, Diggs drops what would have been an all-time iconic throw from Allen, mid-4th Quarter, down 3. I mean, what can we even say... 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Right now, I take nothing they say (particularly given the timing) at face value. They know the audience is unhappy and media availability is to signal to players certain messages and placate the disappointed fans. Beane to his credit really doesn't lie though. He is possibly the most honest GM in the NFL. When he makes it a point to say he wants to find better offensive weapons I believe him. Whether he actually executes that goal is another conversation. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 30 minutes ago, stevewin said: Sure - I mean some people are going to get unhinged with the Diggs is #1 comment but that is just Beane being smart. Say something positive about the guy in front of the caneras - that doesn't mean you don't still go looking for someone better Agreed. Diggs is going to be back next season no matter what, so gotta hype him up. Same goes for Bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Returntoglory said: He was paid to make that kick. *miss The NFL is rigged! C'mon, man! j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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