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Bills-Dolphins Week 18 for the Division! SUNDAY NIGHT GAME


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We scored 48 on the dolphins in week 4 when they were healthy and the Ravens scored 56 on them. Now that they don’t have Philips, Chubb and Howard, one would think that we should easily score 40+ points on them again. 

 

However, this is the NFL and that logic never works 

 

Bills 14

Dolphins 12

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14 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

We scored 48 on the dolphins in week 4 when they were healthy and the Ravens scored 56 on them. Now that they don’t have Philips, Chubb and Howard, one would think that we should easily score 40+ points on them again. 

 

However, this is the NFL and that logic never works 

 

Bills 14

Dolphins 12

Phillips and starting center and Jalen Ramsey didn’t play first game vs buf

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Stopping the Miami offense:

 

We MUST get stout play from the DL in the run game. It’s so important to be able to stop their ground game and string out those outside zones/tosses and let our LBs play from depth. The second they get caught creeping to try and get an inch of advantage in run support, we open passing windows. 
 

Im pretty confident we’ll see a variation of cloud coverage toward Hill when possible, and we won’t play too much pure man. I’m playing a patient game, and bringing limited pressures, and when I do, they’ll be from safeties and corners and not the LBs. 

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One important chess piece we no longer have who was huge in that week 4 thrashing is Matt Milano.  Rasul has stepped in nicely for Tre. Daquan is back and looked really good for missing as much time as he did, but Milano is huge in games like these. Interested to see what McD cooks up. 

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7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Does Von Miller play in this game?

God I hope not. Especially with Miami being a good running team we don’t want Miller on the field at all IMO. I’d run right at him if he were playing. 

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3 hours ago, balln said:

Phillips and starting center and Jalen Ramsey didn’t play first game vs buf

Two of those guys will be missing this game too and Bradley Chubb and Xavien howard and possibly waddle and mostert

they have considerably more impactful injuries this meeting than last  

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4 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

Very concerned about this matchup, even more so than the Patriots since it's a road game and the Dolphins are going to be motivated to not only bounce back from an embarrassing outing in Baltimore, but end the Bills season if that's on the table pending the results of the earlier games on Sat/Sun.

 

If the same team we've seen against the Chargers and Patriots shows up Miami will win and likely win big.

Luckily your team managed to squeak by the Cowboys in the Fraud Bowl with all those FGs so either way your in the Playoffs so don't worry too much.

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14 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

Very concerned about this matchup, even more so than the Patriots since it's a road game and the Dolphins are going to be motivated to not only bounce back from an embarrassing outing in Baltimore, but end the Bills season if that's on the table pending the results of the earlier games on Sat/Sun.

 

If the same team we've seen against the Chargers and Patriots shows up Miami will win and likely win big.

I’d think the bills would be pretty motivated too if a loss eliminated them and Miami would be far less motivated with a banged up team that already clinched 

 

what if the Miami team that played Baltimore shows up? 😂.  Miami is just too invested in pass rushing specialists and they seem to struggle with mobile qbs that can throw so we’ve always been a tough matchup for them 

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5 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I'll say this about McD and Allen, I do not envy their situations and the pressure they will be facing if this does in fact end up being a 'win and in' game for the #2 seed/division or lose and miss the playoffs altogether scenario.

 

Forget about wide right, music city miracle, 13 seconds, etc....this would be the new show stopper in Buffalo sports history for the season to end in that fashion especially against a hated division rival.

 

With that said, there's zero excuse for this offense to not be ready and/or struggle against Miami's defense considering their current situation but this team never fails to find new lows to sink too unfortunately...

You do realize that everybody on this board is onto your game, right?

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6 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I'll say this about McD and Allen, I do not envy their situations and the pressure they will be facing if this does in fact end up being a 'win and in' game for the #2 seed/division or lose and miss the playoffs altogether scenario.

 

Forget about wide right, music city miracle, 13 seconds, etc....this would be the new show stopper in Buffalo sports history for the season to end in that fashion especially against a hated division rival.

 

With that said, there's zero excuse for this offense to not be ready and/or struggle against Miami's defense considering their current situation but this team never fails to find new lows to sink too unfortunately...

Ah yes…sinking to new lows of more than likely winning 5 straight games to steal the division from a team with a 3 game lead and beating three playoff teams along the way 😂

 

I really think the dolphins are gonna mostly phone it in with so many injuries and a playoff spot clenched tbh…they are not in good shape to get into a dogfight with a win or go home team right now Severely doubt they win a playoff game if they get into a tough game with the bills 

 

I really think it’s in both teams best interest for the bills to be the 2 and the dolphins to rest up and get the wc honestly then go into kc and win….of course no coach will concede the division though 😂

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Last year when the Dolphins won against the Bills there was a lot of noice that the Dolphins players were intimated by the Bills and that win carried them the other times they played. I think if the Bills can get out to a 10-0 or 14-0 lead I think there will be a lot of quit on that Dolphins team. Like here we go again: Bills crushing us or another elite team is crushing us.

 

That's the key imo

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2 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

Last year when the Dolphins won against the Bills there was a lot of noice that the Dolphins players were intimated by the Bills and that win carried them the other times they played. I think if the Bills can get out to a 10-0 or 14-0 lead I think there will be a lot of quit on that Dolphins team. Like here we go again: Bills crushing us or another elite team is crushing us.

 

That's the key imo

Getting Daquan back was huge…the only time the dolphins offense really worked us was when they ran the ball at will in the second matchup last year. I don’t think McDermott has any trouble scheming against tua.  We were loading up on defense to beat the chiefs which has given us some favorable personnel to slow down the dolphins too 

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Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Getting Daquan back was huge…the only time the dolphins offense really worked us was when they ran the ball at will in the second matchup last year. I don’t think McDermott has any trouble scheming against tua.  We were loading up on defense to beat the chiefs which has given us some favorable personnel to slow down the dolphins too 

 

 

It's weird. Last year I thought the Dolphins out-coached the Bills in their two losses and I expected a tougher matchup this week and was happy that didn't happen. Obviously coaches figure each other out (hell, I would of loved to see a no punt against against the Pats). I'm curious on how this game starts. I think Waddle and Mostert will get every pain killer known to man and be out there next week but I don't think Tyreek or Jaylen will be close to 100%

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7 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

 

 

It's weird. Last year I thought the Dolphins out-coached the Bills in their two losses and I expected a tougher matchup this week and was happy that didn't happen. Obviously coaches figure each other out (hell, I would have loved to see a no punt against against the Pats). I'm curious on how this game starts. I think Waddle and Mostert will get every pain killer known to man and be out there next week but I don't think Tyreek or Jaylen will be close to 100%

That playoff game always felt really fluky to me..they just sent the house and played man knowing it was their only chance and dodged so many bullets with us just barely missing a ton of deep shots to wide open guys.  That game looked bad in the box score but we were a few inches on a couple deep throws away from a 500 passing yard 6+ TD type game

 

I think our oline is much better than last year and they are down two huge pass rushing pieces and Xavien Howard as well so they really don’t have any hope of emulating that defensive gameplan…if they were gonna have Ramsey and a healthy Xavien Howard maybe I’d be a little more nervous but we’re almost definitely gonna see Eli Apple 

 

on the defensive side I think we’re better equipped to deal with their speed than most defenses…maybe if both teams were 100% healthy it would be closer but I don’t see a lot of ways Miami wins this one.  They’re fighting an uphill battle in the trenches on both sides of the ball 

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9 hours ago, chongli said:

 

I feel bad for you guys (and anyone else in Europe) watching the primetime games here. In other countries in different longitudes that follow the NFL, like Australia , those games are on in the afternoons. Being in Nevada here in the western US, I like to complain that the London and Germany games start at 6:30 AM here, but that is nothing compared to the UK. Might be better for you to DVR the game, and then watch first thing in the morning if you don't have to work then.


I usually stay awake and watch the night games but it’s a crucial time at work the first few weeks in January. So, I probably will tape the game and watch the next day. I suspect I’ll work from home the Monday. 

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13 hours ago, BananaB said:

Calm down tough guy. I’m not saying he is an upgrade, all I said was Melvin Ingram seems to make a big play against us. 
 

I didn’t even pluralize “play”…. 😂

Tough guy?  I’m just calling out an old narrative that’s had been floating around here for a few years.

 

And by the way, what “play” did Ingram make the past two times playing Miami?

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4 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think our oline is much better than last year and they are down two huge pass rushing pieces and Xavien Howard as well so they really don’t have any hope of emulating that defensive gameplan…if they were gonna have Ramsey and a healthy Xavien Howard maybe I’d be a little more nervous but we’re almost definitely gonna see Eli Apple 

 

on the defensive side I think we’re better equipped to deal with their speed than most defenses…maybe if both teams were 100% healthy it would be closer but I don’t see a lot of ways Miami wins this one.  They’re fighting an uphill battle in the trenches on both sides of the ball 

Yeah, they're injuries are appalling. It's like the Bills down Rousseau, Floyd, Douglas, Morse, Torrence, and Davis (😇), with Diggs banged up. 

 

As for their speed, a disciplined zone can handle that. Still, I'd like to see Elam out there. If the Bills are going to make a deep run, they need to click on all cylinders. That means Diggs returning to form, Brady showing something new, Elam emerging (ideally), and Cook, Kincaid, Douglas, Oliver, and other top performers keeping up their excellent play. I'm not as worried about Allen, as long as Spencer Brown at least shoves his man before falling down. 

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I'm going to say that on paper, I think this should be a decent bet for a win: the injuries that Miami has sustained are particularly of importance vs the style of the Bills play.

 

The Bills defense, when playing the way it wants to, is about limiting big plays with zone coverage while getting pressure with 4 rushers. Their O-line is in bad shape with injuries and if Waddle is still out the Bills don't need to worry about Waddle taking the top off the defense while we try to contain Hill. 

 

My biggest worry is about the offense. What the heck is going on? The Chargers game I could chalk up to flukey turnovers, but Josh was just bad vs the Pats. I am just hoping that was his one bad game for a month and he turns it back on soon.

 

I will be eyeing the Dolphins injury report with great interest.

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4 hours ago, BritBill said:


I usually stay awake and watch the night games but it’s a crucial time at work the first few weeks in January. So, I probably will tape the game and watch the next day. I suspect I’ll work from home the Monday. 

I don’t think I could sleep knowing the game is going on 

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2 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:

I don’t think I could sleep knowing the game is going on 

 

Same here. Especially given how important it is. Sadly, I don't see the out-of-town scoreboard going in our favor. So, this is probably a #2 seed or go into the offseason game.

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12 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I'll say this about McD and Allen, I do not envy their situations and the pressure they will be facing if this does in fact end up being a 'win and in' game for the #2 seed/division or lose and miss the playoffs altogether scenario.

 

Forget about wide right, music city miracle, 13 seconds, etc....this would be the new show stopper in Buffalo sports history for the season to end in that fashion especially against a hated division rival.

 

With that said, there's zero excuse for this offense to not be ready and/or struggle against Miami's defense considering their current situation but this team never fails to find new lows to sink too unfortunately...

Forget about wide right?  🤣. Because missing the playoffs is worse than losing the Super Bowl…..

 

Exaggerate much?

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i had been looking about going because spirit has flights for $150 to miami. tickets a few weeks ago were only $250ish for decent tickets. now they're over $600. oof

12 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

The Bills’ entire focus at practice this week should be to come out with urgency and execution when they start the game with the ball at Miami. They cannot afford to come out flat against a weakened opponent.

this will be great test for what kind of coach McDermott truly is and what he can provide for this team. if he cannot convince this team to come out hungry and fueled up than I will be concerned. If we can come out focus and without making mistakes I will feel more comfortable for the playoffs. At that point it will be one game at a time.

 

This is not a game we can feel comfortable in with just a 1 score lead. At any moment their speed can break us and tie up the game. We need a 10 point lead and we need to play with the foot to the floor as soon as we hit the ground.

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10 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

We scored 48 on the dolphins in week 4 when they were healthy and the Ravens scored 56 on them. Now that they don’t have Philips, Chubb and Howard, one would think that we should easily score 40+ points on them again. 

 

However, this is the NFL and that logic never works 

 

Bills 14

Dolphins 12

They didn’t have Ramsey, Phillips or Elliot the our week 4 matchup iirc

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7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

They didn’t have Ramsey, Phillips or Elliot the our week 4 matchup iirc

Dolphins being down another pass rusher (Chubb) is a bigger loss than not having Ramsey, I hope anyway. Allen with time will eat up any secondary.
 

I also hope Allen spreads the ball around, much. Get Shakir and Cook involved early. 

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Really hope I don't see a lot of posts Monday morning.... "We make that one play, convert a 4th down...or don't have that one penalty, blah blah, we would've won and hosted two playoff games and won the SB.....now we go home, no playoffs, fire McDermott"

 

I can't handle that stuff.

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Just now, zow2 said:

Really hope I don't see a lot of posts Monday morning.... "We make that one play, convert a 4th down...or don't have that one penalty, blah blah, we would've won and hosted two playoff games and won the SB.....now we go home, no playoffs, fire McDermott"

 

I can't handle that stuff.

 

What would you like us to say instead?

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3 minutes ago, Drew21PA said:

Interesting 

 

Miami 4-0 after a loss

 

They really are banged up now. Anything can happen and it will be a tough game as it is a rivalry game on the road. With that said if the Bills play well, they should win. They are the better team (IMHO) and definitely the healthier team.

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1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I'm going to say that on paper, I think this should be a decent bet for a win: the injuries that Miami has sustained are particularly of importance vs the style of the Bills play.

 

The Bills defense, when playing the way it wants to, is about limiting big plays with zone coverage while getting pressure with 4 rushers. Their O-line is in bad shape with injuries and if Waddle is still out the Bills don't need to worry about Waddle taking the top off the defense while we try to contain Hill. 

 

My biggest worry is about the offense. What the heck is going on? The Chargers game I could chalk up to flukey turnovers, but Josh was just bad vs the Pats. I am just hoping that was his one bad game for a month and he turns it back on soon.

 

I will be eyeing the Dolphins injury report with great interest.


On a positive note:  He had an awful game against Atlanta late in the year and then went into near perfection mode 

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48 minutes ago, KellyToTasker said:

Dolphins being down another pass rusher (Chubb) is a bigger loss than not having Ramsey, I hope anyway. Allen with time will eat up any secondary.
 

I also hope Allen spreads the ball around, much. Get Shakir and Cook involved early. 

Yeah it might-  I’m just saying- they weren’t exactly at full strength when we beat them week 4

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5 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

They really are banged up now. Anything can happen and it will be a tough game as it is a rivalry game on the road. With that said if the Bills play well, they should win. They are the better team (IMHO) and definitely the healthier team.

 

Will the takeaway Bills show up?  or the giveaway Bills show up?  If they give it away like they did at the Chargers, it's a 99% loss.  

 

Otherwise, I agree the Bills are healthier especially on D and playing well.  Allen/Diggs do concern me though, but they will power through.

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