Draconator Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) Araiza and his accuser have agreed to end litigation in two lawsuits. https://www.wgrz.com/mobile/article/news/investigations/attorney-lawsuits-in-sdsu-rape-case-dismissed-araiza/509-60315569-e973-4fbf-9a53-44ab6bd619f0 Edited December 12, 2023 by Draconator 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Considering how bad Martin has been, can the Bills sign him back now? 12 5 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Sounds basically like a lets ends this so I can move on kind of agreement with both of them dropping their suits. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I bet they’re dating. 1 2 1 27 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I think it's definitely worth getting in contact with him. Hopefully he's been working his craft in all the downtime. Martin needs to go. 3 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Make the curse go away and sign him. Insta super bowl. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Considering how bad Martin has been, can the Bills sign him back now? I wouldn't right now. As inconsistent as Martin has been he's also Bass's holder and that's something Araiza doesn't have exp with. Bass had had issues already and there in no way I mess with his holder this close to playoffs. Easily could cost us much more than a couple short punts. 1 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: I wouldn't right now. As inconsistent as Martin has been he's also Bass's holder and that's something Araiza doesn't have exp with. Bass had had issues already and there in no way I mess with his holder this close to playoffs. Easily could cost us much more than a couple short punts. atleast to the PS to get him comfortable and next time Martin has a bad game, yank him. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 After a year and a half of this charade they finally admit they have no case against him. 4 1 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: After a year and a half of this charade they finally admit they have no case against him. And the Bills got screwed out a great player and received an Araiza curse. Hope we do the right thing so the curse can be lifted. 3 3 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Happy for the kid. I think teams have been waiting for the matter to be completely settled on the Civil side to potentially give Araiza a look in the off-season, so hopefully that will happen now. 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Considering how bad Martin has been, can the Bills sign him back now? Look, he got screwed but do we need any distraction for a punter? 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Happy for the kid. I think teams have been waiting for the matter to be completely settled on the Civil side to potentially give Araiza a look in the off-season, so hopefully that will happen now. I think he’s also a punter a position teams don’t really care about. If he was Josh Allen, he would still be on the time. It sucks but that’s the reality of the situation. The better you are and more important position you play, teams will be more patient and let the facts play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: atleast to the PS to get him comfortable and next time Martin has a bad game, yank him. Practice squad I could jive with, but again, there is no way he sees the field until next year. You simply don't mess with the PAT/FG process this late in the season unless it's forced due to injury. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Look, he got screwed but do we need any distraction for a punter? It will help pull attention away from Von.....oh look, a distraction for a DE...... Edited December 12, 2023 by CircleTheWagons99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, teef said: I bet they’re dating. Kiss and make up, you two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 I think after the Bills kicked him to the curb, they are the last team he wants to sign with…especially considering the nasty weather the Bills punter has to deal with year in and year out. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Doc said: After a year and a half of this charade they finally admit they have no case against him. Legally, that's not quite what this means. It's more like a "mutually assured destruction" tactic in civil suits where defending the defamation countersuit can drain the finances of the accuser who filed a civil suit because lawyers defending you demand payment up front (there's no chance they'll get paid by a settlement if they win, after all). So the accuser is maneuvered into a financial position to agree to drop the case. Florio had commentary about this legal strategy back when the accusations against DeShaun Watson first came out. Surprised it took this long once the defamation countersuit was filed. Quote Gilleon forwarded CBS 8 the signed agreement, which stated, “Without admitting and expressly denying any liability whatsoever, the Parties now desire to resolve any and all disputes which may exist between them, including but not limited to those which arise out of, are connected or related to, the Incident.” “Each Party is solely responsible for any attorney’s fees, mediation fees, expert fees, and costs that he, she, or it has incurred,” the agreement stated. "He, She, or It" ???????? Well....it IS California Edited December 12, 2023 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think he’s also a punter a position teams don’t really care about. If he was Josh Allen, he would still be on the time. It sucks but that’s the reality of the situation. The better you are and more important position you play, teams will be more patient and let the facts play out. And this, of course. Shady McCoy took flak for it, but he called it correctly when the Kaepernick stuff first emerged. The amount of distraction or trouble a team will tolerate is directly proportional to their talent at their position, and the importance of that position. (It was a pretty firm Dis on Kaepernick's talent actually, since QB is arguably the most important position on the team) Who was that punter who was leading the league in punt length, but poor in directional control? Was it Bojorquez? He refused to re-sign with Buffalo because he wanted to play on the West Coast, felt he should be able to dictate his contract terms 'cuz, leading the league in punt length, signed with one of the Cali teams that already had a punter, and wound up getting traded to Green Bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Get 'er done, Beane! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Would love to see Araiza return. Not sure whether he will, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Considering how bad Martin has been, can the Bills sign him back now? Sure. I am sure they can find a spot for him on Practice Squad which will help his money situation and he can work on getting back to game shape. I do hate it ended for him since we will always have those who will say "he is guilty despite charges dropped and lawsuit dismissed", Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: Make the curse go away and sign him. Insta super bowl. Punting wins championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Sure. I am sure they can find a spot for him on Practice Squad which will help his money situation and he can work on getting back to game shape. I do hate it ended for him since we will always have those who will say "he is guilty despite charges dropped and lawsuit dismissed", I highly doubt this organization brings him back. They said if he cleared his name they would consider, but I doubt it. Hopefully they prove me wrong. They preach family and cut him loose without his day in court. That’s pretty low. Edited December 12, 2023 by Araiza Curse 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Just now, Jauronimo said: Punting wins championships It certainly helps if your defense is good and the punter can kick a coffin corner which is rare these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Doc said: After a year and a half of this charade they finally admit they have no case against him. Absolute travesty! He got completely screwed for not getting screwed 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, teef said: I bet they’re dating. Hallmark's trying to buy the rights to their story as we speak. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: I highly doubt this organization brings him back. They said if he cleared his name they would consider, but I doubt it. Hopefully they prove me wrong. They preach family and cut him loose without his day in court. That’s pretty low. Not pretty low. It’s a business. The only person that deserves criticism is the accuser and the people that handled the case. Edited December 12, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, teef said: I bet they’re dating. I wish I had comedic timing like this 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 “Araiza reserves the right to sue the accuser’s lawyer for defamation.” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 40 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Legally, that's not quite what this means. It's more like a "mutually assured destruction" tactic in civil suits where defending the defamation countersuit can drain the finances of the accuser who filed a civil suit because lawyers defending you demand payment up front (there's no chance they'll get paid by a settlement if they win, after all). So the accuser is maneuvered into a financial position to agree to drop the case. Florio had commentary about this legal strategy back when the accusations against DeShaun Watson first came out. Surprised it took this long once the defamation countersuit was filed. It's the same guy representing her from the beginning and he's likely been working on contingency, while the civil trial is rapidly approaching, so it's not a money issue. And if she thinks she has a good case, she'd see it through. No they realize they will lose both civil suits and weren't able to scare him into a settlement. And she likely has little money for him to recover anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said: I highly doubt this organization brings him back. They said if he cleared his name they would consider, but I doubt it. Hopefully they prove me wrong. They preach family and cut him loose without his day in court. That’s pretty low. No curse for the media? They sabotage the business and hound and hound and hound and hound and hound and hound because it generates a new story. Not only is it "Matt Araiza is in trouble" but then they get to report on the "inaction of buffalo bills management who won't make a snap decision on ruining this kids life" and then pose ridiculous questions like "are the bills putting football over the human rights of an individual" But yeah....alllll of that is just unavoidable "news" coverage. These reporters don't have any skin in the game, no money to be made to spin controversy, not. at. all. Just reporting the facts, those guys are 1st amendment American heroes. The Fourth Estate! Edited December 12, 2023 by What a Tuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Einstein said: “Araiza reserves the right to sue the accuser’s lawyer for defamation.” Yup. Now he has some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Considering how bad Martin has been, can the Bills sign him back now? He has been bad. Something needs to be done regardless this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Matt went home and cleared his name. Exactly what the Bills asked him to do. Now it’s time for the team to do the right thing and give Matt a chance to make the team. 1 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, gjv said: Matt went home and cleared his name. Exactly what the Bills asked him to do. Now it’s time for the team to do the right thing and give Matt a chance to make the team. 100 percent agree. He was proven innocent, not just aquited. Can't think of an athlete more deserving of a second chance ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Did he or did he not sleep with an inebriated underaged girl? 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, teef said: I bet they’re dating. You mother *****... You got an actual laugh out of me. Well done 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: No curse for the media? They sabotage the business and hound and hound and hound and hound and hound and hound because it generates a new story. Not only is it "Matt Araiza is in trouble" but then they get to report on the "inaction of buffalo bills management who won't make a snap decision on ruining this kids life" and then pose ridiculous questions like "are the bills putting football over the human rights of an individual" But yeah....alllll of that is just unavoidable "news" coverage. These reporters don't have any skin in the game, no money to be made to spin controversy, not. at. all. Just reporting the facts, those guys are 1st amendment American heroes. The Fourth Estate! Just ask Tyler Dunne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Did he or did he not sleep with an inebriated underaged girl? If I understand correctly video of the party proves he wasn't even there at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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