bigK14094 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 7 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Considering how bad Martin has been, can the Bills sign him back now? This guy is not coming to the Bills ever again. He was cut without any due process. This is a really bad look for the Bills, and they have done exactly the opposite with Von Miller. Seems like a dual standard/inconsistent process. (yes, I used that word deliberately) Stay with the process? WHAT process? He was the accused, not convicted. He should still be punting for the Bills. If Ariza were black, the racism allegations would be loud. BTW he will never even talk to the Bills again. Surprised most on this board don't see that. 1 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: This guy is not coming to the Bills ever again. He was cut without any due process. This is a really bad look for the Bills, and they have done exactly the opposite with Von Miller. Seems like a dual standard/inconsistent process. (yes, I used that word deliberately) Stay with the process? WHAT process? He was the accused, not convicted. He should still be punting for the Bills. If Ariza were black, the racism allegations would be loud. BTW he will never even talk to the Bills again. Surprised most on this board don't see that. Yes. I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, CircleTheWagons99 said: Yes. I agree. I would like to think they learned from their rush to judgement mistake with the Punt God and thus are not responding the same with Von... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 He's also a FA now, not bound by rookie pay scale he got a was it a 5th rounder. Likely Bills could do better overall in the draft, maybe not on talent, but close enough on talent and cheaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Did he or did he not sleep with an inebriated underaged girl? No because she falsely stated her age and it is in California. The bad part is her identity is protected and she is one who made false acquisition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, BuffAlone said: And yet,they play Von Miller. I call BS on Beane. Ruined a young man's life for gut feelings? Putrid imo I don’t want neither of these two men back with the Buffalo Bills regardless of the legal outcome. Because they both lack common sense and don’t know how to behave in civilized society. Buffalo Super Fan says no because they both lack common sense let them go to another NFL team with there stupidity you can’t win championships with people that put themselves in that situation. Especially when there are so many football players out there yearly that have common sense and know how to behave in civilized society playing by the rules in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, fan_in_tx said: I would like to think they learned from their rush to judgement mistake with the Punt God and thus are not responding the same with Von... The two situations are different for a variety of reasons (legally, contractually, etc). There is nothing they learned from the Araiza situation that has anything to do with the Von Miler situation. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: I don’t want neither of these two men back with the Buffalo Bills regardless of the legal outcome. Because they both lack common sense and don’t know how to behave in civilized society. Buffalo Super Fan says no because they both lack common sense let them go to another NFL team with there stupidity you can’t win championships with people that put themselves in that situation. Especially when there are so many football players out there yearly that have common sense and know how to behave in civilized society playing by the rules in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Third person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 9 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I wouldn't right now. As inconsistent as Martin has been he's also Bass's holder and that's something Araiza doesn't have exp with. Bass had had issues already and there in no way I mess with his holder this close to playoffs. Easily could cost us much more than a couple short punts. Araiza was Bass's holder when Bass was having his best season 1 hour ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: I don’t want neither of these two men back with the Buffalo Bills regardless of the legal outcome. Because they both lack common sense and don’t know how to behave in civilized society. Buffalo Super Fan says no because they both lack common sense let them go to another NFL team with there stupidity you can’t win championships with people that put themselves in that situation. Especially when there are so many football players out there yearly that have common sense and know how to behave in civilized society playing by the rules in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo A little evangelical are we? 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, bigK14094 said: This guy is not coming to the Bills ever again. He was cut without any due process. This is a really bad look for the Bills, and they have done exactly the opposite with Von Miller. Seems like a dual standard/inconsistent process. (yes, I used that word deliberately) Stay with the process? WHAT process? He was the accused, not convicted. He should still be punting for the Bills. If Ariza were black, the racism allegations would be loud. BTW he will never even talk to the Bills again. Surprised most on this board don't see that. He never punted for the Bills. let him go. He doesn't know you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 2 hours ago, bigK14094 said: This guy is not coming to the Bills ever again. He was cut without any due process. This is a really bad look for the Bills, and they have done exactly the opposite with Von Miller. Seems like a dual standard/inconsistent process. (yes, I used that word deliberately) Stay with the process? WHAT process? He was the accused, not convicted. He should still be punting for the Bills. If Ariza were black, the racism allegations would be loud. BTW he will never even talk to the Bills again. Surprised most on this board don't see that. Ah he'd rather not play for anyone then. That's a brilliant career strategy. He'd sign if Beane called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 You don't know how excited I was to have both Bass and Araiza on Special Teams heading into the season. We were must-see TV on every side of the ball. I believe we had the most dynamic kicker-punter combo in football. Come on Coach McDermott, give Araiza a second, third, and even fourth chance like we used to with Peterman back in the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 54 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Araiza was Bass's holder when Bass was having his best season ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, QCity said: ?? What season was that ??? I don’t think he was on the team in the regular season 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Araiza was Bass's holder when Bass was having his best season A little evangelical are we? 😎 Araiza didn't even make it TO the season. He was cut in pre season. Unless you mean his best pre season? And even in that time frame, I believe Haack was still holding for the majority of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 16 hours ago, Beck Water said: Happy for the kid. I think teams have been waiting for the matter to be completely settled on the Civil side to potentially give Araiza a look in the off-season, so hopefully that will happen now. Beck, the matter is settled, and now it should be about 2nd chances whether it’s with us or another team. It’s unrelated, but the Von mess is not helping. It stinks in the court of public opinion, they should be seen as unrelated, but they won’t be by the media. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 16 hours ago, Doc said: It's the same guy representing her from the beginning and he's likely been working on contingency, while the civil trial is rapidly approaching, so it's not a money issue. And if she thinks she has a good case, she'd see it through. No they realize they will lose both civil suits and weren't able to scare him into a settlement. And she likely has little money for him to recover anyway. Is it not possible they simply came to an agreement outside of the courts and withdrew the cases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) I watched the real sports segment on HBO, Araiza deserves another shot IMHO. When you hear the real facts, it's no wonder his accuser wanted no part of a civil suit when the tables were turned against her. Edited December 13, 2023 by billsfan714 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 17 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I wouldn't right now. As inconsistent as Martin has been he's also Bass's holder and that's something Araiza doesn't have exp with. Bass had had issues already and there in no way I mess with his holder this close to playoffs. Easily could cost us much more than a couple short punts. Thats an odd coincidence as Bass' form has dipped with Martin as the holder and that might be another reason to jettison Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Araiza didn't even make it TO the season. He was cut in pre season. Unless you mean his best pre season? And even in that time frame, I believe Haack was still holding for the majority of it. Yes, the preseason. I believe he took the job from Haack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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