BillsFan619 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) “The details of what happened were always a little unclear. It was understood that there was a jet ski accident that was the cause of injury, and that he would be unavailable for the rest of the season. A huge blow to his continued success here at Buffalo. In the incident, one of Hines’ friends did not see him turn his jet ski on the water and crashed into him going somewhere between 20 and 40 mph. Then when Hines when to go workout, somehow his leg, the side of his body not contacted by the other jet ski, was bothering him. A MRI result showed Hines tore the ACL and LCL in his left knee. Per Hines, he was barely even using the water craft that weekend, he just wanted to be a good friend and fill it with more gas for everyone else. Then the accident.” https://billswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/01/buffalo-bills-nyheim-hines-breaks-silence-injury-update-nfl/ Edited December 3, 2023 by BillsFan619 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I think the whole team should get ACL insurance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I knew something was fishy. He was bare. I knew it. That nudist couldn’t even keep pants on. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 "breaks silence". Oh what incredible silence to break, as if some great revelation is here. Author must work for modern media and/or is a Drama queen 5 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: "breaks silence". Oh what incredible silence to break, as if some great revelation is here. Author must work for modern media and/or is a Drama queen Right. Maybe someday soon Sean will break his silence on 13 seconds. THAT would be a headline. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: I think the whole team should get ACL insurance. And PWC insurance. (aka 'SeaDoo surety') 😁 Edited December 3, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 "Per Hines, he was barely even using the water craft that weekend, he just wanted to be a good friend and fill it with more gas for everyone else. Then the accident.” 1 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: “The details of what happened were always a little unclear. In the incident, one of Hines’ friends did not see him turn his jet ski on the water and crashed into him going somewhere between 20 and 40 mph. Then when Hines when to go workout, somehow his leg, the side of his body not contacted by the other jet ski, was bothering him. Per Hines, he was barely even using the water craft that weekend, he just wanted to be a good friend and fill it with more gas for everyone else. Then the accident.” WTF? The details are still unclear. Was he riding and turning when hit? Or was he sitting still getting gas? Or is he now spinning it that his leg that didn't get hit by the jet ski was injured by working out? I'm more confused now. Edited December 3, 2023 by loyal2dagame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 4 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: "breaks silence". Oh what incredible silence to break, as if some great revelation is here. Author must work for modern media and/or is a Drama queen breaks silence lol… that sort of headline and one expects that James Cook hired jef Gillooly or something…. it wasn’t the jet ski at all! In was rusty jones revenge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) No good deed goes unpunished. 😔 Edited December 3, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, benderbender said: I knew something was fishy. He was bare. I knew it. That nudist couldn’t even keep pants on. “Hines’ Hiney lands him in hot water with Buffalo…” Someone missed out. Edited December 3, 2023 by BBFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: “The details of what happened were always a little unclear. It was understood that there was a jet ski accident that was the cause of injury, and that he would be unavailable for the rest of the season. A huge blow to his continued success here at Buffalo. In the incident, one of Hines’ friends did not see him turn his jet ski on the water and crashed into him going somewhere between 20 and 40 mph. Then when Hines when to go workout, somehow his leg, the side of his body not contacted by the other jet ski, was bothering him. A MRI result showed Hines tore the ACL and LCL in his left knee. Per Hines, he was barely even using the water craft that weekend, he just wanted to be a good friend and fill it with more gas for everyone else. Then the accident.” https://billswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/01/buffalo-bills-nyheim-hines-breaks-silence-injury-update-nfl/ Hines is always a guy I liked in Indy. Was really looking forward to him being in this offense. Missed opportunity last year under Dorsey...I'm betting Joe Brady could have found a role for him. That said, I'm pretty sure he's all but done here in Buffalo. The past two years we have seen first hand that guys coming off ACLs are pretty much a shell of themselves the following year. Even a young pup like Breece Hall has seen a lack of explosiveness this year. And yes, some of that is due to OL...but not all. At his cap hit coming off this injury and in the last year of his contract he is, unfortunately, an easy call as a cap cut IMO. Edited December 3, 2023 by BuffaloBillyG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 7 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: Then when Hines when to go workout, somehow his leg, the side of his body not contacted by the other jet ski, was bothering him. Does anyone else read this part as Hines was hoping to show the injury was somehow caused by a normal football routine workout/conditioning and not the jet ski accident? That would have saved Hines millions right if the injury was shown to be football related and not from a recreational activity. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Does anyone else read this part as Hines was hoping to show the injury was somehow caused by a normal football routine workout/conditioning and not the jet ski accident? That would have saved Hines millions right if the injury was shown to be football related and not from a recreational activity. I bet t happened as he was stepping up the curb on the way into the gym...some of those curbs are pretty high 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I bet he tells his wife he was only at the strip club because they have good wings too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDad51 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 46 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Does anyone else read this part as Hines was hoping to show the injury was somehow caused by a normal football routine workout/conditioning and not the jet ski accident? That would have saved Hines millions right if the injury was shown to be football related and not from a recreational activity. Read another version of this story in the Athletic a week ago. Did not get any indication that Hines was saying injury was workout related. Story said Bills and Hines reached an agreement re: non-football injury list. Did not specify, but I assume from story Bills are still paying him, but maybe a reduced amount. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 So, another non-contact ACL injury. The NFL has to do something about this turf... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Sounds like a kid that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. "I didn't even have any, maybe 1 or 2." The Bills had every right to not pay him a dime if it was in his contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Quote In the incident, one of Hines’ friends did not see him turn his jet ski So he was using the jet ski, not stationary as previously reported. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 this guy had 2 memorable plays...in a single game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 who?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: this guy had 2 memorable plays...in a single game. I would say that KO return to start the game will go down as a top-10 moment in Bills history, after the Damar week. I know I'll never forget that one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 So Hines is a jet ski savant, but his “friends” kept him from the love of his life, and relegated him to get-gas duty only, a function well below his pay trade. I bet these friends are McDermott and Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Glad we have finally got to the bottom of this mystery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) I remember when we liked Hines. But like most players we have turned on him. Edited December 3, 2023 by nedboy7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 “CSI: Bills Mafia” out in full force. You’ll get to the bottom of this!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Hutz Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Of all the crap that has gone wrong this year, his injury was the least of our concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Lionel Hutz said: Of all the crap that has gone wrong this year, his injury was the least of our concerns. That may be the case…but it certainly was the start of the 2023 season woes Edited December 3, 2023 by Aussie Joe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Hines is always a guy I liked in Indy. Was really looking forward to him being in this offense. Missed opportunity last year under Dorsey...I'm betting Joe Brady could have found a role for him. That said, I'm pretty sure he's all but done here in Buffalo. The past two years we have seen first hand that guys coming off ACLs are pretty much a shell of themselves the following year. Even a young pup like Breece Hall has seen a lack of explosiveness this year. And yes, some of that is due to OL...but not all. At his cap hit coming off this injury and in the last year of his contract he is, unfortunately, an easy call as a cap cut IMO. no one comes back from ACL the next year... always takes two offseasons. not sure why, but the pattern repeats over and over with almost no exceptions. Von Miller will be back to his old self next year IMO, but not before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: no one comes back from ACL the next year... always takes two offseasons. not sure why, but the pattern repeats over and over with almost no exceptions. Von Miller will be back to his old self next year IMO, but not before Agree, pretty much everyone not named Adrian Peterson has a down year right after an ACL. But that dude was a genetic freak of nature. Some never fully come back at all. When we signed Von I figured last year and this year we would see "peak Von". And starting next season age would finally be an issue an dalow him a bit. The injury took what I believed would be his 2 good year window away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 All the news I've seen, not the uninformed speculation, is that Hines was acting in a responsible manner and was injured accidentally by someone crashing into him. He sounds like a good guy, a person who fits into the Bills' culture. As for going forward, the questions are whether he will have had time to heal by the start of next season, and whether he wants to play for the Bills. There was a dispute between Hines and the team about his pay level, but that appears to have been resolved amicably. So I hope he's fully healed and at full speed by next summer. It will be a big shame for him and for the team if he never gets back to full speed after the accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 3:00 AM, Dan Darragh said: Right. Maybe someday soon Sean will break his silence on 13 seconds. THAT would be a headline. I'd rather him break his silence on why his defense fails late 4th quarter . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, 26TrapDraw said: I'd rather him break his silence on why his defense fails late 4th quarter . Decimated by injuries on D? The Refs? 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) On 12/3/2023 at 6:06 PM, Aussie Joe said: That may be the case…but it certainly was the start of the 2023 season woes And may have been reason Bills over paid shorty (Deonte Harty). Beane watched "Get Shorty" too many times. Edited December 5, 2023 by Limeaid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 9:36 AM, Mr. WEO said: So, another non-contact ACL injury. The NFL has to do something about this turf... Or just remove every players acls. Level playing field that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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