lifefan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 McDermott can’t keep benching Cook for extended periods of time for a drop. Yes, Cook needs to be better with the ball. Yes, fumbles or drops are always costly. But benching him isn’t the answer. We’re not in high school here! Cook needs to know that coaches have his back. If Marv Levy was in this situation, Cook would get the ball on the very next play! On a fumble, or drop, he owes one to his teammates and coaches. Give him that opportunity to pay them back. Let him show his teammates that he has their back also! 4 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He should have caught that ball but it’s why he’s a rb and not a wr. Dude is our best running back in years and we love keeping him off the field. 8 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 running backs are not receivers. short of larry centers no rb was specifically the receiving threat primarily. as bizkut said - thats why he is a rb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Coaches are stuck having to somehow mitigate Cook’s gaffes. Ducking out of bounds one yard short of the first down a couple plays before the drop was maddening. 4 1 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I totally agree about the benching of Cook. We had at least 5 different players with a drop yesterday, while Cook's was the only that would've been a TD, it's still ridiculous that he's singled out. The only positive, is if Cook hadn't been benched for a time these 2 games, we wouldn't know how good Ty Johnson can be. He looks really good. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, 947 said: I totally agree about the benching of Cook. We had at least 5 different players with a drop yesterday, while Cook's was the only that would've been a TD, it's still ridiculous that he's singled out. The only positive, is if Cook hadn't been benched for a time these 2 games, we wouldn't know how good Ty Johnson can be. He looks really good. There must be more to Johnson because he can’t stick on a team. But he has looked good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: There must be more to Johnson because he can’t stick on a team. But he has looked good He runs with more ferocity and power than Cook. And dare I say he looks just as quick and agile. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) James Cook shys away from contact and drops TDs. Lots of heart Edited November 27, 2023 by Dablitzkrieg 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Wonder what's up with Fournette? Not saying he should be ahead of Cook, clearly not, but I can't help but think he would have scored on Cook's muff. I've seen him do it so many times. He's great on screens and other flat route plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Wonder what's up with Fournette? Not saying he should be ahead of Cook, clearly not, but I can't help but think he would have scored on Cook's muff. I've seen him do it so many times. He's great on screens and other flat route plays. He would have been like 10 yards behind where Cook was. Dude is washed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 James Cook is a prototypical drought-era Bill. Talented player, but a complete mental midget who will lose you a game with a critical mistake. You can't win with players like him. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, QB Bills said: James Cook is a prototypical drought-era Bill. Talented player, but a complete mental midget who will lose you a game with a critical mistake. You can't win with players like him. We have too many of those guys on the roster to ever win a championship. If we’re being honest, our QB is included in that group but is too talented to ever give up on. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He would have been like 10 yards behind where Cook was. Dude is washed. You may be right but I didn't think he was done. He wasn't what he had been but seemed ok to me last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: We have too many of those guys on the roster to ever win a championship. If we’re being honest, our QB is included in that group but is too talented to ever give up on. First part, agreed. But give Allen a competent coach and we've probably already won a super bowl. I can't see how you can include him in that conversation. How many times has he left the field after giving the team a lead in the final minute only to have his idiot coach and his soft defense give it right back? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, QB Bills said: James Cook is a prototypical drought-era Bill. Talented player, but a complete mental midget who will lose you a game with a critical mistake. You can't win with players like him. He’s a quality depth/rotational piece. But Beane injected him into the lead role. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Was Cook punished somehow after that drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Cook running out of bounds instead of going for the 1st down made me just as upset as him dropping the TD. 2 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Bench Cook for a mistake, or put him right back in to atone for it. Either way, if another player does something stupid, treat them the same way. Be consistent, McDermott! Don't make this into a weird fixation on punishing your whipping boy. It's laughable if he thinks this sends any good message to the team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, QB Bills said: First part, agreed. But give Allen a competent coach and we've probably already won a super bowl. I can't see how you can include him in that conversation. How many times has he left the field after giving the team a lead in the final minute only to have his idiot coach and his soft defense give it right back? Allen leaves a disturbing amount of points on the board. He’s so talented that he overcomes a lot of that. But that pass has to be completed to Davis. 80% of starting QB’s complete that pass and win the game. The 3 straight incompletions after 1st down at the philly 31 leading g to the Bass missed FG was also killer. And the turnovers are usually killer too. McDermott needs to go but Josh has to play better to win a championship. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Allen leaves a disturbing amount of points on the board. He’s so talented that he overcomes a lot of that. But that pass has to be completed to Davis. 80% of starting QB’s complete that pass and win the game. The 3 straight incompletions after 1st down at the philly 31 leading g to the Bass missed FG was also killer. And the turnovers are usually killer too. McDermott needs to go but Josh has to play better to win a championship. Championship? Right now I’d settle for just winning ONCE in overtime! Baby steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: Bench Cook for a mistake, or put him right back in to atone for it. Either way, if another player does something stupid, treat them the same way. Be consistent, McDermott! Don't make this into a weird fixation on punishing your whipping boy. It's laughable if he thinks this sends any good message to the team. Completely agree with this. Phillips does dumb thing after dumb thing and is right back out there. Same with Siran Neal, a gunner who makes no plays but gets plenty of 15+ yard field position flipping penalties. Edited November 27, 2023 by BuffaloRebound 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, boyst said: running backs are not receivers. short of larry centers no rb was specifically the receiving threat primarily. as bizkut said - thats why he is a rb. Tell that to Christian McCaffrey....he would've caught that for us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Completely agree with this. Phillips does dumb thing after dumb thing and is right back out there. Same with Siran Neal, a gunner who makes no plays but gets plenty of 15+ yard field position flipping penalties. Exactly. And yet he never does this with guys on D or ST. He has a bone to pick with offensive guys. It's effing sanctimonius. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Maybe Cook should have gotten more looks as a pass catching RB over the last 1.5 seasons. Beane and crew talks the talk but until Brady took over Dorsey never used RBs in the passing game. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Tell that to Christian McCaffrey....he would've caught that for us i was 100% all in on getting him. then convinced myself once it was not going to happen that it was too rich for my blood. i kick myself now that i told myself it wasn't worth it. Edited November 27, 2023 by boyst 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Allen leaves a disturbing amount of points on the board. He’s so talented that he overcomes a lot of that. But that pass has to be completed to Davis. 80% of starting QB’s complete that pass and win the game. The 3 straight incompletions after 1st down at the philly 31 leading g to the Bass missed FG was also killer. And the turnovers are usually killer too. McDermott needs to go but Josh has to play better to win a championship. Have you watched any NFL games this year? 80% of QBs don’t make that play, nor are they making really ANY plays of significance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Cook didn't show up yesterday. He ran to avoid contact, rather than work for a first down, on one of his first runs from scrimmage. Cook had 16 carries yesterday. 2.7 Yards per carry. The Bills put up 34 points on Josh Allen's back. More playing time for Cook would not have changed the 34 point performance. The defense folded in the fourth quarter. People are over complicating things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chuck Schick said: Have you watched any NFL games this year? 80% of QBs don’t make that play, nor are they making really ANY plays of significance. I don’t see any teams we play miss wide open Receivers in end zone in critical spots. Gabe probably ran the wrong route but I don’t see other NFL teams doing that. Our win probabilities vs actual results is probably bottom of the League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, boyst said: running backs are not receivers. short of larry centers no rb was specifically the receiving threat primarily. as bizkut said - thats why he is a rb. That was a perfectly thrown ball, he wasn't touched and hit hit him in both hands. It wasnt a rocket ball either. No excuses, he MUST catch that ball my friend. He has to. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Honestly I was more upset at him for this play 2nd & 7 at PHI 43 (8:44 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Allen pass short right to J.Cook pushed ob at PHI 37 for 6 yards (H.Reddick). He caught the ball in the flat and should've had an easy first down, but ducked out of bounds to avoid contact and fell a yard short of the marker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I mean. Cook catches that easy ball and he saves us from most of the whining about refs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: We have too many of those guys on the roster to ever win a championship. If we’re being honest, our QB is included in that group but is too talented to ever give up on. Romo kept talking about how Coach Siriana likes players who come from winning programs in college. I hate that the Bills have a losing mentality now. We ALL KNEW that the Bills were going to lose even when we had a 3 point lead near the end of the game. Like my dad said "they always manage to ***** defeat from the jaws of victory" I dont know how you change that mindset but as long as it's there, the Bills will not go anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I mean. Cook catches that easy ball and he saves us from most of the whining about refs. no telling how the rest of game would have gone if he had scored there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Romo kept talking about how Coach Siriana likes players who come from winning programs in college. I hate that the Bills have a losing mentality now. We ALL KNEW that the Bills were going to lose even when we had a 3 point lead near the end of the game. Like my dad said "they always manage to ***** defeat from the jaws of victory" I dont know how you change that mindset but as long as it's there, the Bills will not go anywhere Gotta start with the head coach who routinely mismanages end of game situations and keeps bringing back the same defensive and special teams players who consistently come up small in big situations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I mean. Cook catches that easy ball and he saves us from most of the whining about refs. 🤦♂️ Is that how you think this works? You give the bills a free touchdown in the first quarter and the rest of the game follows exactly the same? Have you ever seen back to the future? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Another stupid decision by McD. Yes he dropped an easy one. So did Diggs Cook then caught a really difficult one later in the game for a big gain. McDermott is a loser and coaches stupid. Edited November 27, 2023 by Ethan in Cleveland 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) The whole Cook pick is a joke. Like we don't know what a championship rusher looks like. He's like the fast athletic wrestler that you know is fun to watch but can never become champion of the world. He's meant to appeal to fans like C Biscuit and fantasy nerds who get aggravated when he only plays a 3rd of the game. But to draft him so high every fan should make Beane know we see the horse ***** of the sellection. Edited November 30, 2023 by 1onemangang7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 8:54 AM, boyst said: running backs are not receivers. short of larry centers no rb was specifically the receiving threat primarily. as bizkut said - thats why he is a rb. Cook was drafted BECAUSE of his receiving skills. That's what made him attractive to the Bills. And he catches the ball pretty well. And no one's talking about the rain. That was tough weather to play football in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 50 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Cook was drafted BECAUSE of his receiving skills. That's what made him attractive to the Bills. And he catches the ball pretty well. And no one's talking about the rain. That was tough weather to play football in. That really shows ya how much of a reach he was. Yet they make him rb1. A piece, that they didn't need. Elam then Cook.. after 13 seconds. Suicide 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: And no one's talking about the rain. That was tough weather to play football in. Which makes the 59 yard FG AND Allen's play all the more impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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