Ya Digg? Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 While much of the criticism of last night is on the offense (and rightfully so), as I’m watching that game last night I just kept thinking how I’m done watching Jackson play. The one semi-decent okay he made all night he ended up inadvertently injuring Hyde. He got incredibly lucky on 2 throws against him-one that Boyd dropped going into the endzone and the deep ball where he was BADLY burned by Chase and Burrow under threw him. The last straw for me was the touchdown by the bengals tight end. The tight end leaked out and Jackson was the closest defender (though not very close. Jackson put in little to no effort to actually try to catch him, he just kind of jogged after him. I’m tired of watching him play 10 yards off, watch his guy catch it what seems like 90% of the time, and never make an impactful play. Thank God for Douglas who will hopefully take his place on the field!! 6 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Benford and Johnson haven’t been much better… Of all Buffalo’s issues, Dane Jackson doesn’t jump out at me. He’s the primary backup at both spots. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Benford and Johnson haven’t been much better… Of all Buffalo’s issues, Dane Jackson doesn’t jump out at me. He’s the primary backup at both spots. 100% agree about Benford and Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Is that your takeaway from yesterday's monstrosity? 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Personally I think of all games this season, Elam should have been playing last night. Man is his jam. 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Pete said: Is that your takeaway from yesterday's monstrosity? There’s enough being said about the other stuff, just wanted to throw someone else on the crap fire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Jackson - new Forum whipping boy … He should be depth … but injuries have meant he is on the field more than we would like… Beane has recognised this and tried to address it ( Hello Douglas) …. But I see Benford has tweaked a hammy so likely more of Dane ahead … Edited November 6, 2023 by Aussie Joe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 What an untimely and stupid thread. Jackson was actually one of the best players on the field yesterday. 11 1 30 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, Ya Digg? said: There’s enough being said about the other stuff, just wanted to throw someone else on the crap fire Dane is the 4th CB on the roster, and was a big part of Bills D that held the Bengals to 3 points in the second. Bills D bailed out the Offense. If Bills offense showed up every week, the Bills would be undefeated. Every Bills loss I blame the offense. The Bills D is getting done with spit and duct tape. The offense is full strength, and they fail the Bills again and again 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Pretty sure all22 will confirm he was best player on defense yesterday 4 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: While much of the criticism of last night is on the offense (and rightfully so), as I’m watching that game last night I just kept thinking how I’m done watching Jackson play. The one semi-decent okay he made all night he ended up inadvertently injuring Hyde. He got incredibly lucky on 2 throws against him-one that Boyd dropped going into the endzone and the deep ball where he was BADLY burned by Chase and Burrow under threw him. The last straw for me was the touchdown by the bengals tight end. The tight end leaked out and Jackson was the closest defender (though not very close. Jackson put in little to no effort to actually try to catch him, he just kind of jogged after him. I’m tired of watching him play 10 yards off, watch his guy catch it what seems like 90% of the time, and never make an impactful play. Thank God for Douglas who will hopefully take his place on the field!! Best part was him celebrating these 2 straight up drops. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Best part was him celebrating these 2 straight up drops. You don't know that he didn't blow the ball out of their hands... Edited November 7, 2023 by Sherlock Holmes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, Einstein said: Personally I think of all games this season, Elam should have been playing last night. Man is his jam. The ankle though. I think you pointed out last night though that the Bills would still in zone way longer than they should. Maybe McD needs to back off his love for zone against some of these smarter QBs in the league. I for one am getting sick of these long drives against our defense that are still ending up in points and keeping Josh off the field. By the time Josh gets the ball, he’s got to be thinking don’t screw this up, bc I might not get the ball again! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Wasn't he the CB that kept breaking up passes? Yeah we better get him off the field can't be having that. 6 1 5 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: What an untimely and stupid thread. Jackson was actually one of the best players on the field yesterday. who would replace him? Josh Norman? 36 year old Josh Norman, who was relaxing on his couch 2 weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsM@fia Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Pretty sure all22 will confirm he was best player on defense yesterday Collinsworth complemented him several times yesterday. (I know this board despises him and I will admit he can be biased, but I personally think he does a great job color comementating). Dane Jackson is a good player. Former seventh round pick and someone I feel does fine as CB#2. Ideally you would like him as a backup but it's the NFL and reality is players get hurt. I'm glad Dane is on our team and I hope Beane resigns him, as long as the numbers make financial sense. If our pass rush was getting home, our secondary would look a lot better. I think the bigger problem is the offenses inconsistenty and lack of identity. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 The announcers actually singled him out a few times for making impact plays in the game... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Pretty sure all22 will confirm he was best player on defense yesterday Probably the best game of his career, tbh. He clearly got the message that the intent was to replace him with Douglas..........which would have really put a crimp in his plans to score in unrestricted free agency. Fortunately for Dane, Benford further injured his hamstring(as foreshadowed this week by Shill Capaccio).........so Dane will likely remain in the starting lineup and Rasul will probably move into Benford's role as the press corner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: Probably the best game of his career, tbh. He clearly got the message that the intent was to replace him with Douglas..........which would have really put a crimp in his plans to score in unrestricted free agency. Fortunately for Dane, Benford further injured his hamstring(as foreshadowed this week by Shill Capaccio).........so Dane will likely remain in the starting lineup and Rasul will probably move into Benford's role as the press corner. Damn, hope Benford isn’t out for too long. Would be nice to at least have him back by the Chiefs game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 28 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: What an untimely and stupid thread. Jackson was actually one of the best players on the field yesterday. If he was, then the defense played worse than I thought. He was terrible. Again, the one play he made last night he was beaten badly by Chase and did not skillfully break up that play, he got flat out lucky. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I actually thought the soft zone paired with the constant 5-6 man rush really hung out secondary out to dry. They were better the second half. I’ll have to rewatch before I marry myself to anything, but the eye test says Dane was not born one of my top 3-5 issues with that game. Dane has been streaky. He has been white hot for stretches of games and awful too. In general I think he’s a decent piece and plays lights out when he has a very good secondary around him. He isn’t good enough to stand alone on the outside. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Dane Jackson was the best defensive player for the Bills yesterday, and it wasn't close for second place. 3 PDs that I counted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, Einstein said: Personally I think of all games this season, Elam should have been playing last night. Man is his jam. Out injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I sometimes wonder what game people are watching🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 36 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: What an untimely and stupid thread. Jackson was actually one of the best players on the field yesterday. 72 grade per PFF 5th highest on the defense..........which is notable for him he's been a tick late all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 Watch him on the Sample TD. No it's not his guy - he is initially covering Chase, then peals off once he sees the pass go to Sample. He puts in such little effort to get to Sample (and Rapp makes a terrible attempt at a tackle) then gives up completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Jackson played with his hair on fire last night. Probably the best game I've seen him play. I think it was an anomaly, but still, a really odd time to have this take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Dane had a great game overall...but man - that play...I saw it too. no effort on that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Dane Jackson was fine. Taylor Rapp not so much. He's the one that whiffed on the third TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 If I'm off the clue me on to plays he made last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said: While much of the criticism of last night is on the offense (and rightfully so), as I’m watching that game last night I just kept thinking how I’m done watching Jackson play. The one semi-decent okay he made all night he ended up inadvertently injuring Hyde. He got incredibly lucky on 2 throws against him-one that Boyd dropped going into the endzone and the deep ball where he was BADLY burned by Chase and Burrow under threw him. The last straw for me was the touchdown by the bengals tight end. The tight end leaked out and Jackson was the closest defender (though not very close. Jackson put in little to no effort to actually try to catch him, he just kind of jogged after him. I’m tired of watching him play 10 yards off, watch his guy catch it what seems like 90% of the time, and never make an impactful play. Thank God for Douglas who will hopefully take his place on the field!! Odd choice today IMHO, as he was mentioned all night for making positive plays against the Bengals. I mean he was probably our best DB yesterday and led the team in PBU's too. No disrespect to you or anyone else...but I can't understand how anyone can complain about our injury depleted defense right now because they have done enough for us to legitimately be undefeated had our offense been playing up to its capabilities. But our offense has failed to get it done in all 4 losses, and the inconsistent no identity offense almost cost us 2 more losses to Giants and Bucs. Not to mention, the defense was arguably the best defense in the NFL the first 4 weeks before the injuries happened and was first in sacks, INTs, Turnovers, point differential and 2nd in PPG allowed. And despite all the injuries, its held well enough for us to win every game, but the offense is not doing its part at all and its why we are 2-3 in our last 5 and honestly were 1 play away from losing each of those 2 wins too because the offense was anemic in the Giants game and the 2nd half of the Bucs game. 7 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: If I'm off the clue me on to plays he made last night He led the team in PBU's and was praised all night by the commentators for being all over the field. So I have to agree with others, this is an odd take today as it was one of his best games IMHO. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: What an untimely and stupid thread. Jackson was actually one of the best players on the field yesterday. I actually thought it was the best game I had ever seen him play. So, sort of surprised by what the OP saw out there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: Pretty sure all22 will confirm he was best player on defense yesterday Actually PFF says it was Settle who was a microsecond from destroying Burrow. That was the most egregious ref error this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27yanks Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Seems folks are just playing for the money. No heart> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 What? He single-handedly saved a touchdown to Chase. Might have done it twice, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Didn’t DJ have the game of his life last night? Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: While much of the criticism of last night is on the offense (and rightfully so), as I’m watching that game last night I just kept thinking how I’m done watching Jackson play. The one semi-decent okay he made all night he ended up inadvertently injuring Hyde. He got incredibly lucky on 2 throws against him-one that Boyd dropped going into the endzone and the deep ball where he was BADLY burned by Chase and Burrow under threw him. The last straw for me was the touchdown by the bengals tight end. The tight end leaked out and Jackson was the closest defender (though not very close. Jackson put in little to no effort to actually try to catch him, he just kind of jogged after him. I’m tired of watching him play 10 yards off, watch his guy catch it what seems like 90% of the time, and never make an impactful play. Thank God for Douglas who will hopefully take his place on the field!! The TE TD you are speaking of was on Hyde. He thought the TE was staying in to block so he blitzed and the TE leaked out 🤦🏻♂️ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, PauleeeWalnuts said: Didn’t DJ have the game of his life last night? Am I missing something? He was attacking anything that moved last night and playing with a total lack of fear. He clearly knew he was playing for his job from the moment he walked onto the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Best part was him celebrating these 2 straight up drops. Everybody celebrates everything these days. I find it extremely silly and often laugh at them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: The TE TD you are speaking of was on Hyde. He thought the TE was staying in to block so he blitzed and the TE leaked out 🤦🏻♂️ I said in a later post I know he wasn’t initially guarding the TE, but his effort to try and tackle him was really poor I get it, Jackson has his fans…I’m just not one of them any more. At least not a fan of him being a starter and getting most of the snaps. He’s fine as a backup, but in my mind he’s been exposed as a starter 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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