Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I thought you could make a case for Williams getting tossed. That hit and knockdown of Brown was way after the initial scrum. As for Thibodaux I also thought that was close, but it looked like Dawkins was holding his leg up too. So not a straightforward kick. In the end it just took too long. Oh and Josh grow up. WTF are you doing???? Oline protect QBs not the other way around. Your shoulder is worth more than the entire rest if the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, mrags said: Watch again. He was kicking him and stomping him. All because he got blown up on the play and his fat gooey ego couldn’t handle it You’re quickly becoming the most infuriating read on the board… it’s a shame you probably enjoy hearing that Edited October 16, 2023 by JGMcD2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Simon said: You wanted them to eject most of the Giants DLine all at once because of some shoving and wrestling on one play? It was more than just shoving. 🙄 8 hours ago, Simon said: Yeah, that was pretty close. Although Spencer was playing mean through the whistle right along with Dawkins (and Thibodeaux). Lawrence overreacted some but Williams was frustrated from just having a football jammed down his craw for 8 straight minutes and was out of line. Playing mean? It’s a mean sport! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, mrags said: If anyone should have been ejected it should have been the fat tub of goo Dawkins. It all started because he was destroyed on the play and seemed to be butthurt about it. Then he proceeded to kick and stomp on Thibideaux while he was down. You're weird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Warcodered said: They injured Brown, did he get back into the game? I know he's our least favorite O-lineman performance wise but that was ***** up. imagine if a star QB was hit 30 seconds after the whistle like that and taken out of the game for a leg injury like Spencer Brown. It would be the ONLY topic on national sports airwaves this morning and a massive PR nightmare for the NFL. Remember how big a story it was when Mason Rudolph got smashed with a helmet? But a lineman? No biggie I guess. so much for "player safety." That should have been an ejection. It was way, way after everything else. Edited October 16, 2023 by TheFunPolice 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Albanybillsbacker said: Literally never happened. Dawkins never stomped him although he easily could have. yeah it was weird… it looked like Dawkins really WANTED to give him a few good stomps, but he was trying to restrain himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: You’re quickly becoming the most infuriating read on the board… it’s a shame you probably enjoy hearing that Yeah. I say things that others don’t want admit. Got it. Live in fairly land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Yeah. I say things that others don’t want admit. Got it. Live in fairly land You nailed it - you're the great liberator of realistic thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I thought you could make a case for Williams getting tossed. That hit and knockdown of Brown was way after the initial scrum. As for Thibodaux I also thought that was close, but it looked like Dawkins was holding his leg up too. So not a straightforward kick. In the end it just took too long. Oh and Josh grow up. WTF are you doing???? Oline protect QBs not the other way around. Your shoulder is worth more than the entire rest if the team. As much as I hate Josh putting himself in that situation with how important he is to the team, I can't fault a guy for not letting two guys gang up on his teammate like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 11 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: They didnt do anything ejection worthy. That is pretty much down to throwing a punch. Lawrence was close when he got Brown on the ground, but didnt swing. Idk...Thibbs was throwing some pretty intense upkicks from the ground. Cleats have studs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Idk...Thibbs was throwing some pretty intense upkicks from the ground. Cleats have studs. Because Dawkins wouldnt stop standing over him trying to get at him. Nothing else for Thibbs to do there. They all might get fined, but there was nothing ejection worthy. Punches, or that disgusting helmet-to-helmet hit we saw in the Ravens game. Nothing from last night's little dust up was nearly as violent as this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 hours ago, mrags said: Dawkins was stomping on him while he was as on the ground. Not only should he have been ejected. In the real world he would have been charged with battery. You should be charged with battery against my brain cells 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, Warcodered said: As much as I hate Josh putting himself in that situation with how important he is to the team, I can't fault a guy for not letting two guys gang up on his teammate like that. I understand your sentiment. I really do. But there are different rules for how a QB should handle himself. He has to be smarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Special K said: Oliver and Allen will probably receive fines for their actions as well. Good thing Oliver has a big new contract with all the fines he's been racking up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 52 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Because Dawkins wouldnt stop standing over him trying to get at him. Nothing else for Thibbs to do there. They all might get fined, but there was nothing ejection worthy. Punches, or that disgusting helmet-to-helmet hit we saw in the Ravens game. Nothing from last night's little dust up was nearly as violent as this. Wow that Hamilton hit is vile. Nothing for Thibbs to do...besides wait for him to move? not kick another player? not be a ***** dumbass? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Don't think anything rose to the level of automatic ejection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From Roc to Ky bills fan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 12 hours ago, Simon said: You wanted them to eject most of the Giants DLine all at once because of some shoving and wrestling on one play? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappaPump Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 12 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said: I'm sure that Daboll told his guys to target Brown, Oliver and Dawkins - guys who are hotheads and would likely take the bait. No punches were thrown, and none of the actions rose to the level of being an intent to injure, so I was okay with the offsetting PFs. Brown did leave the game after the cheap shots with some sort of injury, so it actually was more than pushing & shoving. 3 penalties to our 1 = offsetting? Might as well take a couple of cheap shots of our own if it’s all offsetting. The kicking incident definitely should have been a disqualification. It was numerous kicks, not just one. Funny, launching yourself at a defenseless player during game play can get you ejected, but not during a scrum. I just find it all interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 41 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: You should be charged with battery against my brain cells Cool. Feel free to block me. Others have. I’m sure it’s worked out well for them. I’m not here for your amusement or anyone else’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 To take this thread on a tangent. What happened on the scrum following opening kickoff ? I didn't see anything done by the Bills that even resembled a penalty. I saw #47 on the Giants with what looked like a punch to Brown's facemask, and then hold the facemask for a good 5 seconds. A ref also comes over to yell at Spencer Brown before the calls were announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: To take this thread on a tangent. What happened on the scrum following opening kickoff ? I didn't see anything done by the Bills that even resembled a penalty. I saw #47 on the Giants with what looked like a punch to Brown's facemask, and then hold the facemask for a good 5 seconds. A ref also comes over to yell at Spencer Brown before the calls were announced. That was the worst officiating crew the Bills have seen this year....they should be relegated to officiating games like Bears vs. Vikings......keep them away from the Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, Special K said: That was the worst officiating crew the Bills have seen this year.... That officiating crew was one of the reasons the Bills walked out of there with a win last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 16 hours ago, That's No Moon said: why was Josh Allen being an absolute dumbass and throwing his throwing shoulder into that mess? Toxic Masculinity. He should probably be forced to take some sort of sensitivty training after that public display of aggression. 1 minute ago, Simon said: That officiating crew was one of the reasons the Bills walked out of there with a win last night. On the last play. But the Bills could have a 14 point lead at that point, if the officials were competent . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, Chaos said: Toxic Masculinity. He should probably be forced to take some sort of sensitivty training after that public display of aggression. Is it too much to ask to have the QB and leader of the team not be an idiot? If he hurts himself on that play or gets beaten down by a lineman twice his size nobody has clever comments today. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Is it too much to ask to have the QB and leader of the team not be an idiot? If he hurts himself on that play or gets beaten down by a lineman twice his size nobody has clever comments today. You seem like you would enjoy rooting for Mac Jones. Checks all your boxes. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 58 minutes ago, Chaos said: On the last play. But the Bills could have a 14 point lead at that point, if the officials were competent . If the officials were competent, the Bills would have been called for about twice as many penalties as they were. The OLine was mugging people all over the place in both pass pro and especially the ground game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 6 hours ago, mrags said: Cool. Feel free to block me. Others have. I’m sure it’s worked out well for them. I’m not here for your amusement or anyone else’s. I never block anybody...miss too many pure gold posts. It was just a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Oh gaaaaaaawwwwwwwddd! Because the nfl is not a bunch of punitive little pukes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 13 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Was saying same thing to wife... I absolutely love football where everything was offsetting! 😆 Perfect socialist game. Now that is a freakin' genius comment. Really. Today's board winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I like scrums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I didn’t think anyone deserved to be ejected. I’m not a fan of the how all penalties are negated if each team commits one penalty. All 11 giants on the field could’ve run up on Josh and continued to push him down over and over and over…..but if 1 Bills was guilty of an illegal shift they all cancel themselves out. Replay the down. Doesn’t make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Chaos said: You seem like you would enjoy rooting for Mac Jones. Checks all your boxes. kicking guys in the junk instead? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 20 hours ago, Special K said: Can anyone explain this?? When seeing the replay, it was clear that these three idiots committed unprovoked acts of aggression on Dawkins and Brown. Thibideaux was seen kicking Dawkins in the head and neck area, and Lawrence and Williams threw themselves like missles and knocked Brown to the ground. I'm sure their wallets will be lighter later in the week, but at least one, if not all three of these clowns should have been ejected from the game!! Thoughts?? They play for the Giants. Isn't that enough punishment? 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 Three Giants Fined for Roles in Brawl vs. Bills Things got ugly for the Giants late in the third quarter of their game versus the Buffalo Bills last weekend. PATRICIA TRAINA New York Giants defenders Kayvon Thibodeaux, Dexter Lawrence, and Leonard Williams were each fined $10,927 by the league for their role in a second-half scuffle with the Buffalo Bills. Bills offensive lineman Dion Dawkins received a $10,927 fine. Thibodeaux, Lawrence, Williams, and Dawkins were part of a larger brawl that began after Latavius Murray rushed for a first down late in the third quarter of the Giants' 14-9 loss to the Bills last weekend at Highmark Stadium. The officials threw four flags, three on the Giants and one on Buffalo, the penalties off-setting one another. There were no ejections as a result of the melee. Thibodeaux was caught on camera lying on the turf kicking at some Bills players who were hitting him while he was on his back. Williams shoved an unidentified Bills offensive lineman in the end zone. Great reporting.....unidentified offensive lineman🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 personal foul penalties = 1 personal foul penalty! What the hell kind of asinine rule is that? Another stupid rule- a personal foul and holding penalty offset. NFL is all about player safety LMAO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I’ll keep echoing - dawkins/thibodeaux being my offsetting and swept under the rug wouldn’t bug me. Both sides chippy and no one at risk of real injury…. so get it on record in case of continued issues and move on away from the play and after the play clobbering a guy and resulting in injury should be an ejection. The precedent it sets and behavior encouraged by lumping it all together is dangerous. That it wasn’t enven an escalated fine really does surprise me too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Special K said: Three Giants Fined for Roles in Brawl vs. Bills Things got ugly for the Giants late in the third quarter of their game versus the Buffalo Bills last weekend. PATRICIA TRAINA New York Giants defenders Kayvon Thibodeaux, Dexter Lawrence, and Leonard Williams were each fined $10,927 by the league for their role in a second-half scuffle with the Buffalo Bills. Bills offensive lineman Dion Dawkins received a $10,927 fine. Thibodeaux, Lawrence, Williams, and Dawkins were part of a larger brawl that began after Latavius Murray rushed for a first down late in the third quarter of the Giants' 14-9 loss to the Bills last weekend at Highmark Stadium. The officials threw four flags, three on the Giants and one on Buffalo, the penalties off-setting one another. There were no ejections as a result of the melee. Thibodeaux was caught on camera lying on the turf kicking at some Bills players who were hitting him while he was on his back. Williams shoved an unidentified Bills offensive lineman in the end zone. Great reporting.....unidentified offensive lineman🤣 I didn't know incognito was back on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’ll keep echoing - dawkins/thibodeaux being my offsetting and swept under the rug wouldn’t bug me. Both sides chippy and no one at risk of real injury…. so get it on record in case of continued issues and move on away from the play and after the play clobbering a guy and resulting in injury should be an ejection. The precedent it sets and behavior encouraged by lumping it all together is dangerous. That it wasn’t enven an escalated fine really does surprise me too. Yeah, $11K to these players is like $11 to us. That’s supposed to be a punishment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 1:31 AM, Richard Noggin said: Unfortunately, the only action will be taken this week, and it will be pointless fines that these particular well-paid players won't even notice. Maybe if the kicking in the head thing is obvious there might be some potential for a suspension...but I didn't even catch that from my vantage (which is actually pretty perfect to see that all unfold, down near that goal line on the Bills side). You miss a lot of details in person. You see some things with amazing clarity, but you just can't take it all in on every play. And you definitely don't get any info from the PA system or replays. If the Bills PA system were to be "unplugged", I don't think anyone would notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Pete said: 3 personal foul penalties = 1 personal foul penalty! What the hell kind of asinine rule is that? Another stupid rule- a personal foul and holding penalty offset. NFL is all about player safety LMAO We should have had a 2-man advantage for two minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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