BillsDiehard Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Stumbled upon these NextGen stats on cinci defense...#31 in NFL against rush...we ran the ball 8 times...that's coaching! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 EasternOHBillsFan: McD: “I absolutely do. We’re working extremely hard to make the adjustments we have to make. Ken is doing the same. So, I remain confident in Ken and our offensive staff, and we continue to work hard at improving.” Liar, liar pants on fire... No way does he have confidence in Dorsey. He is an intelligent man who has made football his life. So, NO WAY, just like there is no way Steve Tasker believes the nonsense he is pushing. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: EasternOHBillsFan: McD: “I absolutely do. We’re working extremely hard to make the adjustments we have to make. Ken is doing the same. So, I remain confident in Ken and our offensive staff, and we continue to work hard at improving.” Liar, liar pants on fire... No way does he have confidence in Dorsey. He is an intelligent man who has made football his life. So, NO WAY, just like there is no way Steve Tasker believes the nonsense he is pushing. The dreaded "vote of confidence" which means either shape up or ship out, as my father used to say! I could think of no better way of expressing myself than using the clip from Blazing Saddles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkKelso'sHelmet Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/9/2023 at 9:35 AM, BillsDiehard said: Stumbled upon these NextGen stats on cinci defense...#31 in NFL against rush...we ran the ball 8 times...that's coaching! Dorsey does not want to establish a run game. Throwing out of shotgun is his religion. It was even the same way in the preseason. He's one of the worst coordinators I've ever seen. It took the rest of the league about 6 games to figure him out. FIRE DORSEY. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Over complicated passing game ,simpleton run game ,constantly in shotfun, not using playaction and failure to stay with up tempo means he needs to be replaced immediately. This Dabol offense doesnt have tom Brady. We need the Shanahan system AND let Josh be Josh and we will be unstoppable , we have John Elway , we now need his offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Singletary 18/95/TD at the half because the Bengals are awful against it! Run the ball! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Odd how former Bills are having elite games today. Almost like they have OCs who know what theyre doing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/9/2023 at 9:22 PM, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: Dorsey does not want to establish a run game. Throwing out of shotgun is his religion. It was even the same way in the preseason. He's one of the worst coordinators I've ever seen. It took the rest of the league about 6 games to figure him out. FIRE DORSEY. I think he'd like to; Dorsey just doesn't have a clue how to do it. But yes, he needs to go. Yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 7:30 PM, BillsMontreal said: Two years ago, it was our ST coach...Last year, it was our DC...This year it is our OC. Those coaches have one thing in common. Incompetence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Greg Cosell says this... "One of the myths with the Bills offense is that they are very talented…” Outside of Diggs, we have okay receivers. We have okay runners behind an OL that can't consistently run block. It can't consistently pass protect either (regardless of what some analytical sites say). Dorsey doesn't have an armory full of weapons. But he does have a unicorn for a QB. And that's where I have some problems with Dorsey. It's not I think Dorsey is a bad OC. I don't. I think he's about average. But I do think a better OC would maximize Allen's unique talents while minimizing his shortcomings and mental mistakes. www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/analyst-debunks-1-notion-about-bills-offense/ar-AA1jO2Vx?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=7726bc1241c143c196b20fa2bf2e65ea&ei=15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 On 11/10/2023 at 12:22 AM, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: Dorsey does not want to establish a run game. Throwing out of shotgun is his religion. It was even the same way in the preseason. He's one of the worst coordinators I've ever seen. It took the rest of the league about 6 games to figure him out. FIRE DORSEY. Texans ran all over cinci! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: Greg Cosell says this... "One of the myths with the Bills offense is that they are very talented…” Outside of Diggs, we have okay receivers. We have okay runners behind an OL that can't consistently run block. It can't consistently pass protect either (regardless of what some analytical sites say). Dorsey doesn't have an armory full of weapons. But he does have a unicorn for a QB. And that's where I have some problems with Dorsey. It's not I think Dorsey is a bad OC. I don't. I think he's about average. But I do think a better OC would maximize Allen's unique talents while minimizing his shortcomings and mental mistakes. www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/analyst-debunks-1-notion-about-bills-offense/ar-AA1jO2Vx?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=7726bc1241c143c196b20fa2bf2e65ea&ei=15 I love Cosell and I agree we dont have the greatest talent on offense. However, I think our talent is underrated. There arent that many teams that are super talented across the board. Josh is elite. Cook can be explosive. Diggs is elite. Kincaid is playing really well for a rookie when given the chance. Davis is decent. Shakir is playing really well. Our oline started out really good in the beginning of the season. It actually looked like we had a good oline for a change. The Jags exposed something and they have been downhill since. They have not even tried to change or adapt to that other than to try and use the TEs in 12 personnel. I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that the talent we have on the team is all that terrible. We have guys. Even more guys than I listed. They aren't elite talents but we do have guys that are decent to very good. This offense just does not use the talent as it should be used. I don't even think Dorsey is terrible in the sense that his design is terrible.... It's just terrible for our team. He lacks the skills to use the talent and build an offense around what we have. Instead he is trying to force his one and only offensive system and make the players into something they aren't. That is why Dorsey needs to go. Because he is trying to fit square pegs in round holes and lacks the ability to do anything else. I watch other teams fit new guys in right away. How many times have we seen a player come in here and we can't even get them on the field at all? Edited November 13, 2023 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Oh, hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avisan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Honestly... players are generally in a position to succeed so far this game. Execution errors are killing us so far. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Avisan said: Honestly... players are generally in a position to succeed so far this game. Execution errors are killing us so far. I don’t like Dorsey, but I agree… we fumbled and ***** that would have worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) On 11/6/2023 at 3:50 PM, Roundybout said: He's gone tomorrow. I don't care how good of friends him and McD are. No way Pegula is letting this slide. What a national humiliation Edited November 14, 2023 by pigpen65 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Avisan said: Honestly... players are generally in a position to succeed so far this game. Execution errors are killing us so far. Who’s responsible for their failure to execute? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, pigpen65 said: He's gone tomorrow. I don't care how good of friends him and McD are. No way Pegula is letting this slide. What a national humiliation He's got to be gone tomorrow. It doesn't matter who you have replacing him, it can't get worse. A Josh Allen offense should not be scoreless this late in the 2nd quarter. Get rid of that clown!!!! it's been nearly the whole season aside from Miami! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avisan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, mannc said: Who’s responsible for their failure to execute? The players? What, is Ken Dorsey coaching players to let the ball go through their hands now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) The entire offense is a train wreck, no one has a clue on how to protect the ball and they are dropping passes, not getting open, and overall just bad!!! Edited November 14, 2023 by Toyo321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Avisan said: The players? What, is Ken Dorsey coaching players to let the ball go through their hands now? Those were all tight throws to guys barely open, if at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Stop huddling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avisan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, mannc said: Those were all tight throws to guys barely open, if at all Bro this is the NFL, guys aren't wide open every play. They were open, and needed to catch the ball, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Avisan said: Bro this is the NFL, guys aren't wide open every play. They were open, and needed to catch the ball, too. Where is the mismatch? Where is the exploit of the defense? It's non existent. It just line up and run a play. No scheme, no design....nothing but a flat offense. A swing pass to Murray? Come on. No vision. No creativity. Nothing. We don't deserve to win. D coordinators are playing chess, Dorsey is playing checkers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Dorsey should be fired twice 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I'm thinking Katapult 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Fire McClap. cut the root. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Dorsey should be fired twice Nothing comes easy for our O anymore. That’s on concepts design and playcalling imho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 NONE is the fault of the OC. MFrrs need to catch the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: Dorsey is playing checkers. Get real. Tic-Tac-Toe, and he always goes second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Look at these play calls by Dorsey. No one open, no scheme, everyone covered. This guy is ruining this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, TwistofFate said: Look at these play calls by Dorsey. No one open, no scheme, everyone covered. This guy is ruining this offense. Win or lose tonight, I want him gone tomorrow. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 52 minutes ago, Chaos said: Get real. Tic-Tac-Toe, and he always goes second. There is zero creativity. It's terrible. Coach, have you thought about replacing Dorsey? "No" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 STOP BLITZING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Why blitz on third and 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKemp Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I am so over Dorsey and Brady. Fire them and put Mike Shula in charge. Hire a new OC in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Why didn’t we run all game? It was incredibly effective. Dorsey just doesn’t have it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Can they coach allen to not be an idiot or replace him? Ok with either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Why is it that Dorsey coaches an offense that's so freaking predictable??? Josh Allen has thrown nearly the exact same interception 3 weeks in a row. While that's inexcusable for Allen, it's also obvious that teams keep seeing that play on film and know exactly when it's going to happen. And then of course there's the absence of any motion or creativity in the backfield. Allen even seems almost scared to run it at times that he used to just take off. I think we might need to hope Daboll doesn't get what he asks for in NY and he comes back to Buffalo. He'll not only bring some creativity back, but maybe he can also rein Josh in again in terms of his turnovers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 It’s official!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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