gobills1212 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Beck Water said: Yes. Elam not under 4.3 like Hill, but legit fast, faster than anyone else on our secondary unless Tre White has gotten back to his league-entry speed. It's interesting, I'm sure they want Damar Hamlin active as a backup safety with Poyer out. But I would think if they weren't just 'maumau'ing us about how close the competition between Benford, Jackson, and Elam was pre-season, this is a game where they would want Elam on the menu. From the fan seat perspective, Choices to be made. I think this may have some truth to it. Another way to put it is "not a good scheme fit" LOL if we wanted to keep Levi Wallace, we could have and would have. Pittsburgh offered him a very moderate contract. Tre White coming off ACL surgery and didn't know how/when he'd come back, was certainly a reason. I think Tre was struggling more than the Bills let on. Elam has been 'nicked up'? Word from where? Himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 28 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Not Active: Poyer Ifedi Anderson Jonathan or Ford (both are the 5th DE/DT respectively. Maybe a chance they both sit?) It leaves me with Elam having about a 50/50 chance of dressing. If he does dress, they may have some DB sets where he comes in to jam and run tight with a WR (not necessarily Hill). If it worked, he could see more snaps. It does give an option for a twist on D compared with having Ford and Jonathan who combined don't even have 1 tackle yet. Not sure I'd call it 50/50, unless you think Coach is rolling out a new scheme this week...we haven't seen Elam or Benford/Tre play out of the slot (which your scheme would suggest). Unless you think Benford or Tre is coming off the field. Not sure why all this back and forth about a guy who hasn't dressed for 3 straight weeks. It is what it is...he's #4 on the.boundary corner depth chart. We aren't dressing a 4th boundary corner, who won't be playing meaningful snaps AND not a key s/t contributor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 He needs to be on the field for this game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 Kaiir "Secret Weapon" Elam in sweatpants again. https://twitter.com/BuffaloBillsPR/status/1708504608060895668 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Kaiir "Secret Weapon" Elam in sweatpants again. https://twitter.com/BuffaloBillsPR/status/1708504608060895668 Wow, thought he would get on the field this week. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Kaiir "Secret Weapon" Elam in sweatpants again. https://twitter.com/BuffaloBillsPR/status/1708504608060895668 Beat me to it. Make it “Quattro” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Hahooooo! Are they even trying to shop him at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 Just now, mrags said: Beat me to it. Make it “Quattro” I am this boards' number one hater, don't you ever forget it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: Wow, thought he would get on the field this week. Utah if he was going to play,this would be the week. They need to get something for him as he is wasting a roster spot. 1 minute ago, Maynard said: Hahooooo! Are they even trying to shop him at this point? They need to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 BUST 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Yeah, I’m done with wasting any more thoughts about Elam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Very disappointed. Need to mix in press coverage if you want the Lombardi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 They might as well hang onto them. They’re not gonna get anywhere near the value of a first round pick. Injuries due happened during the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 1:21 PM, FireChans said: This delusion that Elam is our super secret weapon against the Dolphins will die this weekend. The mental gymnastics required to believe that Elam is good enough to cover the best WR in football but not good enough to put on pads every other week is ABSURD. 💥💥💥💥💥💥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 People actually thought he would be active? For coaches to make a first round pick from last year inactive for the first three weeks, they must think he absolutely sucks. They are not going to then just randomly throw him in against one of the top offenses in the league. My guess is they keep him around this season for depth in case of injury only. Then next offseason add a couple of new corners and trade him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RiotAct Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Yikes. 2 minutes ago, Process said: People actually thought he would be active? For coaches to make a first round pick from last year inactive for the first three weeks, they must think he absolutely sucks. They are not going to then just randomly throw him in against one of the top offenses in the league. My guess is they keep him around this season for depth in case of injury only. Then next offseason add a couple of new corners and trade him. unmm, yeah. He played well last season , especially against the speed of the Dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: They might as well hang onto them. They’re not gonna get anywhere near the value of a first round pick. Injuries due happened during the season No one gets original draft value of busts John. Can they get “guy who isn’t good enough to put on pads” value? Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Process said: People actually thought he would be active? For coaches to make a first round pick from last year inactive for the first three weeks, they must think he absolutely sucks. They are not going to then just randomly throw him in against one of the top offenses in the league. My guess is they keep him around this season for depth in case of injury only. Then next offseason add a couple of new corners and trade him. Thought he could see some field just by virtue of the fact that he might be the 2nd best athlete in the Bills defensive backfield. In hindsight, he's probably a bad fit in the zone heavy scheme we're likely to see today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Maynard said: Hahooooo! Are they even trying to shop him at this point? What do you think they could get for a guy that can’t even crack the game day lineup? I can’t imagine it would be much. Might as well keep him in case an injury happens. Edited October 1, 2023 by Beast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: Yikes. unmm, yeah. He played well last season , especially against the speed of the Dolphins. I agree. The coaches clearly do not. They obviously aren't go from having him inactive for three weeks just to throw him in vs a top offense. He's clearly not a part of their plans for this season. It's unfortunate. I think he should be out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I’ve kind of gone back-and-forth on this, but I think I’m OK with elam I’m not dressing This fins are fence is fast and it uses a lot of motion. Communication is going to be key back there and one of the strengths of the bills defense is they do communicate well putting Elam into that might hurt that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I’ve kind of gone back-and-forth on this, but I think I’m OK with elam I’m not dressing This fins are fence is fast and it uses a lot of motion. Communication is going to be key back there and one of the strengths of the bills defense is they do communicate well putting Elam into that might hurt that. Agree but I fear if given any time at all Tua will eat up our secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whorlnut Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Process said: People actually thought he would be active? For coaches to make a first round pick from last year inactive for the first three weeks, they must think he absolutely sucks. They are not going to then just randomly throw him in against one of the top offenses in the league. My guess is they keep him around this season for depth in case of injury only. Then next offseason add a couple of new corners and trade him. They’ve already destroyed any trade value he might have had before the season. Bad move imo. 7 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Yikes. unmm, yeah. He played well last season , especially against the speed of the Dolphins. This might be one of the biggest myths on the board and with the entire fanbase. Do y put really think the coaches are going to make a first rounder inactive week after week if he played so well? Come on… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beast said: What do you think they could get for a guy that can’t even crack the game day lineup? I can’t imagine it would be much. Might as well keep him in case an injury happens. NFL trade values can be weird sometimes, but I think we might be able to get a 4th for him? Comes down to how much teams value Elams status as a recent 1st round pick. As long as he's not a locker-room cancer (and I haven't seen a single report saying he has a bad attitude) I think he's much more valuable to keep as a depth guy than trying to trade him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: A lot of people didn't agree with me in that thread. Trading him before this season was the right move. His value will only go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: NFL trade values can be weird sometimes, but I think we might be able to get a 4th for him? Comes down to how much teams value Elams status as a recent 1st round pick. As long as he's not a locker-room cancer (and I haven't seen a single report saying he has a bad attitude) I think he's much more valuable to keep as a depth guy than trying to trade him. Possibly, but 22 year old first rounders don’t do well as depth. His confidence has to be shot and he deserves a chance to restart his young career. It obviously isn’t here and that’s unfortunate, but it has to be embarrassing for him at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Bad look for him if he can’t dress today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 If he can’t be active for this game hard to imagine Elam seeing field unless someone gets hurt this season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Ok I don't get it. Vs Hill was the exact type of coverage we needed him for. Did he do something unforgivable, like have ranch with wings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 From the crowd rises a chant..."we want Elam...WE WANT ELAM...WE WANT ELAM!" * Coach McDermott turns, yells "Elam...come here!" * Elam throws off his coat, and hastens to McDermott's side: "Yes, Coach?" * McDermott: "Go see what they want..." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 What the hell is going on with this guy? He must have an attitude and a comprehension issue. He’s got the talent to get on the field ahead of some of these career backups. What a miss by a GM who usually does his due diligence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: No one gets original draft value of busts John. Can they get “guy who isn’t good enough to put on pads” value? Yes. but he is, though. He was a rook last season and sealed at least two games for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 Just now, RiotAct said: but he is, though. He was a rook last season and sealed at least two games for us. Huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: From the crowd rises a chant..."we want Elam...WE WANT ELAM...WE WANT ELAM!" * Coach McDermott turns, yells "Elam...come here!" * Elam throws off his coat, and hastens to McDermott's side: "Yes, Coach?" * McDermott: "Go see what they want..." Coat?!? We’d have the first death by heatstroke in the league in 21 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Celebrity beer vendor, Section 214? Gotta earn that pay somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I thought for sure he'd get a chance today. 😶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Ok I don't get it. Vs Hill was the exact type of coverage we needed him for. Did he do something unforgivable, like have ranch with wings? Or maybe McD thinks that coverage scheme and a kinda-fast Benford is good enough to cover Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Is there a trade in the works which would keep him inactive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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