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2 minutes ago, Kaenon said:

Mazi Smith, Jack Campbell, a good OL, and Rashee Rice

You have to prioritize the items in that menu. Smith or Campbell, for instance. Hard to see how you could get both.

I'd personally prefer trying to solidify oline and add weapons at WR and TE2.

Darnell Wright, Darnell Washington, Rashee Rice would not be a bad plan in my book, though you'd have to trade up from 59 to secure Washington.

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On 4/14/2023 at 3:03 PM, Warriorspikes51 said:

Post a few of your favorite players that you want the Bills to draft

Feel free to add why you want that specific player


Mine:  (I'll start with 1 and add to the list later) 


TE Darnell Washington


The first highlight I saw of this beast, he was hurdling defenders and that reminded me of Josh.  
I think he brings a lot of value immediately to this offense.  He can be used as an extra OT. He can maul defenders.  
His size makes him a matchup nightmare.  6'7 and 265. He's fast for his size and bulldozes through tackles.
He has 11 inch hands and his catch radius is insane. He will help Allen.
Instant Red Zone target. Toss it up. High Points the ball 
I watched interviews of him and in his own words, he views himself as humble. 

Only 21. Untapped potential.  Massive lean muscular frame.

5 Star recruit out of high school as the 10th overall player in the country. Was considered the No.1 athlete in the class.

Because he chose Georgia over some other schools that really needed a TE, he hasn't yet been utilized to dominate games

 




 

 





 

 

Sounds a bit like Knox who was a great piece in rd 3. 

 

Knox had like 30 catches coming into the NFL

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Honestly?  Nobody.  There are guys I'm intrigued by.   Adetomiwa Adebowore is fascinating.  Guys who weigh 280+ lbs don't run sub 4.5 40s or have a vertical jump of over 3 feet.  He played edge in college, but he could be a moveable chess piece in the NFL.  He could line up as a 3 tech, or on the edge.  You could even play him at linebacker.  There's probably no chance that Buffalo drafts him, but man is he fascinating. 

 

Darnell Washington is a guy whom the Bills could draft.  He's got to mature and develop some, but he has the potential to be a Gronk like tight end.  He's big and athletic, somewhat under utilized in college.  He's OK at blocking, but could learn to be much better.  Of course, he made that wild one handed catch at the combine.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

Honestly?  Nobody.  There are guys I'm intrigued by.   Adetomiwa Adebowore is fascinating.  Guys who weigh 280+ lbs don't run sub 4.5 40s or have a vertical jump of over 3 feet.  He played edge in college, but he could be a moveable chess piece in the NFL.  He could line up as a 3 tech, or on the edge.  You could even play him at linebacker.  There's probably no chance that Buffalo drafts him, but man is he fascinating. 

 

Darnell Washington is a guy whom the Bills could draft.  He's got to mature and develop some, but he has the potential to be a Gronk like tight end.  He's big and athletic, somewhat under utilized in college.  He's OK at blocking, but could learn to be much better.  Of course, he made that wild one handed catch at the combine.

 

 

I am an UGA fan. Live near Athens. Washington is already a very good blocker. I don't see Gronk like athleticism as a receiver. He had to make the one-handed catch because he's not a fluid mover. Brock Bowers is the pass catching athletic freak on the Dawgs. Washington is a legit RZ threat, though, and I'd love for the Bills to grab him.

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1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said:

Honestly?  Nobody.  There are guys I'm intrigued by.   Adetomiwa Adebowore is fascinating.  Guys who weigh 280+ lbs don't run sub 4.5 40s or have a vertical jump of over 3 feet.  He played edge in college, but he could be a moveable chess piece in the NFL.  He could line up as a 3 tech, or on the edge.  You could even play him at linebacker.  There's probably no chance that Buffalo drafts him, but man is he fascinating. 

 

Darnell Washington is a guy whom the Bills could draft.  He's got to mature and develop some, but he has the potential to be a Gronk like tight end.  He's big and athletic, somewhat under utilized in college.  He's OK at blocking, but could learn to be much better.  Of course, he made that wild one handed catch at the combine.

 

 

He could become the next Jason Peters.

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On 4/14/2023 at 4:56 PM, Pete said:

BIJON

 

people laughed at me when I was pounding the table for Breese last draft.  Breece would be the best RB on our roster last year and this season.  Bijon is twice the player Breece is IMO and one of top 5 players in this draft IMO.

 

Opposing D’s worry themselves over Josh.  Josh has damn bear broken Belichick.  Josh and Bijon in same backfield- that’s better than Mahomes and Kelce.

 

F conventional wisdom rhetoric- don’t over draft RB, don’t pay RB, draft CB, DE, WR yada yada-

we need touchdown makers!  Playmakers!  Players that opposing Ds must game plan against- freeing Josh, freeing Diggs 

 

I am not opposed to packaging next years number 1 and trading into low teens and drafting Bijon.

 

we need playmakers!  Who has bigger upside than Bijon?  
 

McDermott and Beane to a degree are on the hot seat.  They must get over that hump asap and win Buffalo a Super Bowl.  They can’t keep losing in playoffs.  And AFC east is getting scarier.  Don’t die with any bullets.  Win now baby.  Make it happen Beane

 

I'm kind of with you on this if the Jets would have had Breece in that last game i think the Bills lose & when McCafrey came available i was hoping Beane would be able to make some magic but didn't .

 

Every one or the "Experts say" that the RB position is not what it once was & that may be so but you put either one of those players on the Bills offense after seeing what they did for their respective teams last year the Bills offense becomes almost unstoppable .

 

Sure a first round pick for a RB is unheard of for the most part but if you can get a generational talent like Bijon for possibly 5 years along with Josh, Diggs, Knox, Cook, Gabe, Harte, Shakir, OMG the points to be had .

 

A LB is another piece but lets just say the Bills first 2 picks were Bijon (which i don't see him falling that far) in the first & Campbell in the second then a O linemen or one of the better TE's in the third round i'm ecstatic !! But maybe that's just me .

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On 4/14/2023 at 4:56 PM, Pete said:

BIJON

 

people laughed at me when I was pounding the table for Breese last draft.  Breece would be the best RB on our roster last year and this season.  Bijon is twice the player Breece is IMO and one of top 5 players in this draft IMO.

 

Opposing D’s worry themselves over Josh.  Josh has damn bear broken Belichick.  Josh and Bijon in same backfield- that’s better than Mahomes and Kelce.

 

F conventional wisdom rhetoric- don’t over draft RB, don’t pay RB, draft CB, DE, WR yada yada-

we need touchdown makers!  Playmakers!  Players that opposing Ds must game plan against- freeing Josh, freeing Diggs 

 

I am not opposed to packaging next years number 1 and trading into low teens and drafting Bijon.

 

we need playmakers!  Who has bigger upside than Bijon?  
 

McDermott and Beane to a degree are on the hot seat.  They must get over that hump asap and win Buffalo a Super Bowl.  They can’t keep losing in playoffs.  And AFC east is getting scarier.  Don’t die with any bullets.  Win now baby.  Make it happen Beane

So, you think you were somehow vindicated in your position about Breece Hall? How so?

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13 hours ago, MJS said:

So, you think you were somehow vindicated in your position about Breece Hall? How so?

Breece was running away with offensive rookie of the year.  Perhaps he would of been difference maker as a Bill against the Bengals.

 

Breece will be a handful for Buffalo to deal with this year.  Miami ran all over us with mediocre RBs and OL.

 

If the Bills draft Offensive Rookie of the Year- this draft would be a huge success IMO

 

and like I’ve been stating- Bijon is twice the player Breece is.  And a top 5 talent.  So I’m down for a splash move.  Bijon is the player the Bills need the most from this draft imo.  Smith—NJigba is the other player I would consider trading up for.  Buffalo is desperate for a playmaker besides 14

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1 hour ago, Pete said:

Breece was running away with offensive rookie of the year.  Perhaps he would of been difference maker as a Bill against the Bengals.

 

Breece will be a handful for Buffalo to deal with this year.  Miami ran all over us with mediocre RBs and OL.

 

If the Bills draft Offensive Rookie of the Year- this draft would be a huge success IMO

 

and like I’ve been stating- Bijon is twice the player Breece is.  And a top 5 talent.  So I’m down for a splash move.  Bijon is the player the Bills need the most from this draft imo.  Smith—NJigba is the other player I would consider trading up for.  Buffalo is desperate for a playmaker besides 14

Who cares? Nobody thought Breece Hall was bad, or that Bijon Robinson won't be good.

 

I will never want a RB in the first round.

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50 minutes ago, MJS said:

Who cares? Nobody thought Breece Hall was bad, or that Bijon Robinson won't be good.

 

I will never want a RB in the first round.

So no OJ, Walter Payton, Billy Simms, Barry Sanders, Saquon, MCCaffery for you.


bills have needed a RB that can pass protect, can catch, and who must be accounted for, we’ve sucked at RB since Thurman mostly

 

34 made the KGun, not 12.  Without 34, McKeller and company are not an offensive juggernaut 

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4 minutes ago, Pete said:

So no OJ, Walter Payton, Billy Simms, Barry Sanders, Saquon, MCCaffery for you.


bills have needed a RB that can pass protect, can catch, and who must be accounted for, we’ve sucked at RB since Thurman mostly

 

34 made the KGun, not 12.  Without 34, McKeller and company are not an offensive juggernaut 

The days of the dominant “bell cow” RB are mostly gone.  Titans tried that approach with Derek Henry - they were hard to deal with, but ultimately could not compete with the high octane passing teams.  
 

Of course, having a great RB would help any offense, but less so if that team has poor run blocking.  I don’t think anyone is arguing that having a top RB would not be awesome.  The argument is more about how much you should spend (draft picks, $) on a RB.

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26 minutes ago, Pete said:

So no OJ, Walter Payton, Billy Simms, Barry Sanders, Saquon, MCCaffery for you.


bills have needed a RB that can pass protect, can catch, and who must be accounted for, we’ve sucked at RB since Thurman mostly

 

34 made the KGun, not 12.  Without 34, McKeller and company are not an offensive juggernaut 

It's not 1964 anymore.

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Matthew Bergeron (OL, Syracuse) would seem to be a really good fit for the Bills.  He tested well and has positional flexibility.  Only problem is that 27 seems too early and he probably won't be available at 59... 

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6 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said:

Trenton Simpson LB, who is the best of this year’s crop IMO. Fast and versatile.

Then I believe Beane will trade back up in the second round and take Sam LaPorta TE. Good all around TE. Gives Josh another weapon. Worthy of the pick in a weak draft. 

Both solid choices. Of the top 3 LBS, Trenton Simpson is the one I like best, though I hope they make a play for offensive help. Lots of folks griping about Addison, but I'd be happy if he fell to 27. I prefer Washington if you are trading up for TE, btw, but LaPorta is one of the top 4 and I'd be good with any of them.

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10 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Both solid choices. Of the top 3 LBS, Trenton Simpson is the one I like best, though I hope they make a play for offensive help. Lots of folks griping about Addison, but I'd be happy if he fell to 27. I prefer Washington if you are trading up for TE, btw, but LaPorta is one of the top 4 and I'd be good with any of them.

I’m really ok with the top three LBs, as we may not be the top choosers but just think Campbell is limited to zone coverage. Sanders is interesting as a rusher, so could have some added value there. I think more aggression on D (per McD) means more man coverage.  Beane is not so great at disguising our top pick, so right now I’d be pretty surprised if it isn’t a LB. I guess could be WR and come back for a LB, but don’t really like the value.  Perhaps IOL in the 3rd and then whatever’s left. Will be interesting this year. Would be great year for a trade back but not really Beane’s MO. 

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18 hours ago, mannc said:

Matthew Bergeron (OL, Syracuse) would seem to be a really good fit for the Bills.  He tested well and has positional flexibility.  Only problem is that 27 seems too early and he probably won't be available at 59... 

 

Yea the most realistic way to get Bergeron is, I think a trade down from #27 into the later 30s maybe. @HappyDays has a theory about the Raiders maybe moving up for Hooker... not sure I totally buy it but if we play that scenario out then #38 for Bergeron is in his window I think. 

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16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea the most realistic way to get Bergeron is, I think a trade down from #27 into the later 30s maybe. @HappyDays has a theory about the Raiders maybe moving up for Hooker... not sure I totally buy it but if we play that scenario out then #38 for Bergeron is in his window I think. 

With only 6 picks in a draft that lacks top end talent, I think the Bills will be listening to offers to trade back, unless by some miracle, their guy makes it to 27.  As you said, though, who’s going to want to trade up?  Raiders make a lot of sense.

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6 minutes ago, mannc said:

With only 6 picks in a draft that lacks top end talent, I think the Bills will be listing to offers to trade back, unless by some miracle, their guy makes it to 27.  As you said, though, who’s going to want to trade up?  Raiders make a lot of sense.

 

If it was me (and the way I have done it in the countless sims I have run) unless someone I love has been there at #27 I've tried to trade back there (sometimes multiple times) and then trade up from #59 and end up with two guys between 35 and 50 and an additional (earlier) 3rd round pick. Then you move around the board again in rounds 3 and 4 to try and target specific high floor guys at some of the less premium positions (IOL or TE for example). This is a draft where if I was Beane I'd be constantly looking at trying to match value with need by moving around and target specific guys. It isn't a "let the draft come to you" year. 

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On 4/14/2023 at 2:03 PM, Warriorspikes51 said:

Post a few of your favorite players that you want the Bills to draft

Feel free to add why you want that specific player


Mine:  (I'll start with 1 and add to the list later) 


TE Darnell Washington


The first highlight I saw of this beast, he was hurdling defenders and that reminded me of Josh.  
I think he brings a lot of value immediately to this offense.  He can be used as an extra OT. He can maul defenders.  
His size makes him a matchup nightmare.  6'7 and 265. He's fast for his size and bulldozes through tackles.
He has 11 inch hands and his catch radius is insane. He will help Allen.
Instant Red Zone target. Toss it up. High Points the ball 
I watched interviews of him and in his own words, he views himself as humble. 

Only 21. Untapped potential.  Massive lean muscular frame.

5 Star recruit out of high school as the 10th overall player in the country. Was considered the No.1 athlete in the class.

Because he chose Georgia over some other schools that really needed a TE, he hasn't yet been utilized to dominate games
 

 

On O-strongly agree with you...

 

I am a big fan of creating mis-matches for Josh to exploit (and hopefully Dorsey to game plan to).  Washington is the biggest mismatch in the draft.  Its also the 34+ inch arm length.  He's a monster - adding to 3rd down sets and red-zone.  Plus he blocks like an OT.  He immediately upgrades pass protection, the run game and the red-zone in my mind.  1st Round

 

The other name I like is Elijah Higgins - 4.54 speed, 6'3" - 235 - plays wide out and his 35" vertical is better than Addison's....6th round

 

Finally, everyone's favorite - Mingo -- just an athletic and strength freak...3rd round

 

On D---Karl Brooks from Bowling Green-- 6' 3" 303 LB DT/DE- nimble, strong, multiple...preparing for no DT under contract next year = 2nd round 

Mekhi Garner - convert to Safety - strong, fast, tall, good in coverage - Garner, Bedford and retain Rapp become for the tri-safety combo in '24 4th round

 

Add Ivan Pace in the 5th to this and its your draft....

 

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I'm not a college fan and no scouting expert but Cosell likes Mingo so I watched some tape.

 

I see a big guy (220 lb.) with better than average speed who can make contested catches and who bullies cornerbacks, either knocking them over or dragging them many yards after the catch. I'd be very happy with this guy in round 2.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

I'm not a college fan and no scouting expert but Cosell likes Mingo so I watched some tape.

 

I see a big guy (220 lb.) with better than average speed who can make contested catches and who bullies cornerbacks, either knocking them over or dragging them many yards after the catch. I'd be very happy with this guy in round 2.

 

 

 

This is the guy who could replace Gabe. But we still need a WR2 as I consider Davis a WR3.  

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9 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

I'm not a college fan and no scouting expert but Cosell likes Mingo so I watched some tape.

 

I see a big guy (220 lb.) with better than average speed who can make contested catches and who bullies cornerbacks, either knocking them over or dragging them many yards after the catch. I'd be very happy with this guy in round 2.

 

 

 

 

+ his top end speed is elite. He clocked in at 22.1 mph on a 50 yard completion which is 99 percentile. He also has 10 3/8 inch hands

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8 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

This is the guy who could replace Gabe. But we still need a WR2 as I consider Davis a WR3.  

Isn't the slot guy in our offense the number three guy? Also, IF Mingo pans out, his speed, weight combo suggests he can be dominant, or at least a number 2 — to me.

 I think Gabe being a number 3 is more a result of Gabe's production than it is of his ideal role.

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On 4/17/2023 at 7:45 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea the most realistic way to get Bergeron is, I think a trade down from #27 into the later 30s maybe. @HappyDays has a theory about the Raiders maybe moving up for Hooker... not sure I totally buy it but if we play that scenario out then #38 for Bergeron is in his window I think. 

 

It would be awesome to have a QB named Hooker playing in Vegas. 

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On 4/17/2023 at 7:45 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea the most realistic way to get Bergeron is, I think a trade down from #27 into the later 30s maybe. @HappyDays has a theory about the Raiders maybe moving up for Hooker... not sure I totally buy it but if we play that scenario out then #38 for Bergeron is in his window I think. 

The thing about QBs is that if they pan out, you're absolutely happy you've taken them in the first round because of the fifth year option. In a weird way, if the Raiders really like Herndon, then moving up to get him in the late first is the smart play even if they're not competing for him. 

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Trenton Simpson - just because he’d be fun to watch, dude can absolutely fly

 

Jonathan Mingo - love his tape, has size and excellent athleticism 

 

Jordan Addison - I think he goes well before the Bills pick but he’s a baller

 

Bijan - I get that RB in round 1 is wrong, but this guy makes it look easy out there. I also expect he’ll be gone early.

 

Sam Laporta - not big at TE but he’s a dog, thinking they wait and take Schoonmaker though 

 

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On 4/15/2023 at 12:34 AM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Darnell Washington at #27, trade up to 45-50 and draft Hyatt. Kipers latest mock has Darnell Washington going at #40 and Hyatt going at #55.

 

That would be something coming away with Washington and Hyatt. I'm not sure I see us going Hyatt though because of the Harty signing. 

 

Not sure anyone is drafting Washington in the first due to medicals. Could have a Gronk-esque fall due to them.

 

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Per team sources: - Eagles are calling about trading up from 10 in the 6-8 range for Jalen Carter - Eagles like Van Ness - Texans love Bijan - Sam LaPorta hurt by medical - Multiple teams medically flunked Darnell Washington & dropped him off their board

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