DrDawkinstein Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 42 minutes ago, muppy said: my first thought was snarky ...Yeah I want to be a 6" tall supermodel too but that doesn't men it is ever gonna happen. Dude Does NOT lack self confidence. What he has is chutzph ......HE WISHES. 45 million dollars a year. Based off of What exactly?? 😏 EDIT: Just read preceding post. That makes much more sense. Slimey media CHECK Based on the going rate for a starting QB in the NFL. The reason he would ask for a lot of money (whether that is $45M, $35M, whatever) isnt because he's comparing himself with the other top QBs. It's because he's comparing himself with the rest of the 7billion people on Earth and realizing that even if you rank him in the bottom 1/4 of the league, that means there are only 24 people on the entire planet capable of doing his job better than him. And there are really only about 50 people TOTAL in the entire world capable of doing this job at all at the present moment. ALL of these players should show up to the negotiation table asking for a ridiculous amount of money. Because the league literally has billions of dollars. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsShredder83 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 One on hand I think his play picked up this year, and I think it improves next year. On the other hand, how much of that is Daboll? A "boost" he could apply to a rookie or FA? On the third hand, 45m lol I think it's posturing. I think 30m isn't unreasonable in this market, would feel high this year, and aight within 2 years, maybe even slight bargain. If I was NY and liked him I'm drawing a hard line at 30m and if he won't meet it, welcome the opportunity to draft a guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bronxbomber21 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 9:12 PM, SinceThe70s said: If I were the G-men I'd franchise him. No way I'd sign him multi-year at any price but I'd give him another year. Giants are coming off a playoff year after a number of years of sucktitude and I'm not sure what the quick fix would be. I'd give him another year with Daboll - and from Schoen's perspective start the succession planning. If it's not needed -doubtful - even better. I would let Jones walk and sign Carr and draft a qb in the 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I'd take Ryan Fitzpatrick right now over DJ. Dude must be on the bath salts. If he couldn't run, he'd be a backup at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 APR 28 2022 New York (NYG) declined a $22.3 million 5th year option for 2023 , oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 9:28 PM, Dr.Sack said: Duke graduate knows his worth. Cash in while you can. Apparently he doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I would let Jones walk and sign Carr and draft a qb in the 2nd Carr wouldn't want to play with that collection of bums at WR and TE. 4 hours ago, ALF said: APR 28 2022 New York (NYG) declined a $22.3 million 5th year option for 2023 , oops Yeah but can you blame them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 23 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Based on the going rate for a starting QB in the NFL. The reason he would ask for a lot of money (whether that is $45M, $35M, whatever) isnt because he's comparing himself with the other top QBs. It's because he's comparing himself with the rest of the 7billion people on Earth and realizing that even if you rank him in the bottom 1/4 of the league, that means there are only 24 people on the entire planet capable of doing his job better than him. And there are really only about 50 people TOTAL in the entire world capable of doing this job at all at the present moment. ALL of these players should show up to the negotiation table asking for a ridiculous amount of money. Because the league literally has billions of dollars. Well that's not even true. 49ers 4th string QB is better than Jones. I'm convinced that, after one year of coaching and being on a roster, there are at least 10,00 humans with the athletic talent and intelligence to become a better QB than Daniel Jones is right now. He's a bum--just one more Barkley ACL tear away from being Mike Glennon... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 8:10 PM, HOUSE said: He deserves more.. Hey House, I think I found your wallet in the back of my van...I'll be there in a few! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Marangi Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) He is getting 40 million lol I think the Schoen take is fake Edited March 6, 2023 by Gary Marangi 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanybillsbacker Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gary Marangi said: He is getting 40 million lol Oh man, I thought that was real for a second and was mind blown. Then reality kicked me in the head and I realized it was a voiceover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Word on the street is Josh Allen is past his prime and a chump for not working out during the off season. We should trade him and go after Daniel Jones while there's still time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Honestly surprised by this. Thought for sure daboll would draft a guy 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Steptide said: Honestly surprised by this. Thought for sure daboll would draft a guy A mediocre QB for the entirety of his 3 years, has his best year under Brian Daboll, a year which saw him throw 15 whole TD passes, and the Giants are handing him $40M per season. ............ 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Hey good for him. Everyone laughed at 45 and “he’s not worth that” But this is why you ask for maximum dollars. I said if he landed 25 per year it’s a huge win and he ends up close to what was reported. I can’t even hate on him for it. Daboll must see something that says he can progress further 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 If it's a 4 year deal, there must be outs after year 2 (or definitely after year 3). Hey, its the going rate for a starting NFL QB, and there is a cap floor so you gotta spend it somehow. See what happens over the next couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Hey good for him. Everyone laughed at 45 and “he’s not worth that” But this is why you ask for maximum dollars. I said if he landed 25 per year it’s a huge win and he ends up close to what was reported. I can’t even hate on him for it. Daboll must see something that says he can progress further Unless there's some long term plan to draft a guy, this coukd be daboll's downfall. Imagine if Jones is terrible the next 2 seasons, or imagine if McDermott and Beane signed Tyrod.for some big contract after 2017 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 This allowed them to tag Barkley also. That's a win for the G-Men at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Good for the Giants…still jealous they have Dabs…😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Unless there's some long term plan to draft a guy, this coukd be daboll's downfall. Imagine if Jones is terrible the next 2 seasons, or imagine if McDermott and Beane signed Tyrod.for some big contract after 2017 Oh I definitely think there’s some risk. Daboll has to think he can progress further than where he’s at. Even though similar to buffalo they got into the playoffs year one I still expected them to let Jones and Barkley walk and tank the season and really tear it down. Schoen and Daboll just put their jobs on the line signing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Just now, Steptide said: Unless there's some long term plan to draft a guy, this coukd be daboll's downfall. Imagine if Jones is terrible the next 2 seasons, or imagine if McDermott and Beane signed Tyrod.for some big contract after 2017 If Jones is terrible the next two seasons, they'll be drafting early enough to get a new QB in 2025, and likely be able to walk away from this contract with a reasonable dead cap hit. Just saying, there could be a plan. Jones outright sucking wouldnt be the worst thing. The worst thing would be playing "ok", make a Wild Card again next year but never win more than 9 games, never be bad enough to cut or get a high draft pick, but never be good enough to do anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Danny got paid and I’m not surprised when Daniel faced a defense with a pulse he looked horrible but the Giants are in no man’s land first round wise and it would have probably taken too much for them to move up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I figured he'd get paid. Now it remains to be seen if he deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Allen's contract is a steal...Jones getting paid this much is hilarious...all he is going to do is lead them to first round exits every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Good for Jones, but ain't no way I'd give him that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Danny got paid and I’m not surprised when Daniel faced a defense with a pulse he looked horrible but the Giants are in no man’s land first round wise and it would have probably taken too much for them to move up Year 2 in the system - they need a WR to probably open things up a bit. I don't think they'll make the playoffs this year though, their defense is just not very good and you got philly and dallas in the division. 8-4-1 in 1 score games (one of the losses was week 18 when Webb started) is really unsustainable. Jones had 6 fumbles in 16 starts, vs. 36 across the previous 37 - and his sack rate actually increased. So he fumbled less, threw fewer interceptions, and ran more. While staying healthy... This just needs a lot of stuff to go right for it to not be a disaster. 15 TD passes (another 7 on the ground) for 22 total in 16 games, and he got 40M AAV. Definitely not paying for what he's done so far, paying for what you think he's capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 These QB contracts are becoming a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 40 million per for Tyrod Taylor. Lol shrewd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 The Giants just doubled down on 9-7-1 where a few of those 9 wins were a lucky bounce away from being a loss. Remember the bad snap that led to the game-winning interception against Baltimore? Their week 1 win against the Titans required a missed FG in OT. It took an A-Rod choke to win in London. I think that if they were not coaching in NY, they would not have gone this route. But in NY they cannot afford a reset year like the Bills had in 2018 with a rookie QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) It's official: 4 years, $160 million!! https://www.nfl.com/news/giants-qb-daniel-jones-agree-to-four-year-160-million-contract Edited March 7, 2023 by Nephilim17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Yikes! Schoen will have his work cut out for him now. He doesn’t even get the benefit of building his roster with a cheap Qb contract. He goes right to the QB mega contract in year 2. And for a QB who IMO isn’t elite. Going to be tough to build a contending roster with that Jones deal, unless Jones takes another big step forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 31 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: The Giants just doubled down on 9-7-1 where a few of those 9 wins were a lucky bounce away from being a loss. Remember the bad snap that led to the game-winning interception against Baltimore? Their week 1 win against the Titans required a missed FG in OT. It took an A-Rod choke to win in London. I think that if they were not coaching in NY, they would not have gone this route. But in NY they cannot afford a reset year like the Bills had in 2018 with a rookie QB. This is all true, but I really do believe that Jones has genuine physical upside and the intelligence to play the position well. Is he Josh Allen or Herbert or Mahomes? No. But he could also evolve into a player as good as Hurts and Prescott. He really needs weapons at the WR position, though. That's where the Giants should be focusing their energies on offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 desperationnnnnn. the cowboys kicked off this string of bad contracts with mediocre QBs aka DAK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 The Giants very likely already gave his possible replacements on speed dial, if I’m the GM or HC I tell him to go ask the Browns for that contract and have a great laugh while enjoying a good Scotch whiskey 🥃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Danny got paid and I’m not surprised when Daniel faced a defense with a pulse he looked horrible but the Giants are in no man’s land first round wise and it would have probably taken too much for them to move up Was that because of physical deficiencies or he was getting beat scheme wise because better defenses scheme better? He already made a huge leap it sounds like scheme wise under dabol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I bet there is an easy out after year 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: You think you know more about NFL QB play than Brian Daboll? Do you not realize that Daboll...: 1) signed off on this deal. He WANTS Daniel as his long-term QB. 2) loved Daniel Jones before the 2022 season even began. He took the Giants HC job BECAUSE they had Daniel Jones as their QB. Suuuurrrrrrre, that's why they're in this situation and not having him play out his 5th year option right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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