MiltonWaddams Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Good signing. Hope he is a training camp cut. They should be able to find better but he is decent insurance policy. So, is he a good signing or is he the guy you want cut in training camp? Seems like you’re contradicting yourself in that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Can play all 3 interior OL positions - great move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: So I like Ike. I am not willing to give up on Spencer unless I get a can't pass it up opportunity. I am less excited by Bates. I think he should be in a competition for a job. Their priority should be getting the best FA guard available and work it out from there. I thought Bates played better at LG the year before. I wasn’t a fan of moving him to RG. Maybe we get a RG and move him back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Draconator said: Did everyone miss the fact this the article referenced in the original post was from 2022? Hahaha yeah I certainly did and I’m the one who posted it. Saw it on the app but there was no way to share it. Apologies for that (I’m certainly no Yolo lol) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: So, is he a good signing or is he the guy you want cut in training camp? Seems like you’re contradicting yourself in that statement. A good signing but I'm hoping with draft and free agency they can do better. If he was the last oline to make the team it would be fine. He's cheap. Knows the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Nice depth back. Always felt comfortable if Ike had to fill in. Familiar with the system and players. These type of signings will be the key to this off-season 2 hours ago, Dopey said: I thought Bates played better at LG the year before. I wasn’t a fan of moving him to RG. Maybe we get a RG and move him back. I think they thought Staffold would be very good at LG and pulled the trigger on a 1 year deal. Bates looked way better in 21 imo as well. Hoping we pick up a nasty RG in the 1st 3 rds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 He's not the answer but there is zero chance hes worse than Saffold. I still can't believe they let Saffold finish that Bengals game. It was so obvious they had to pull him off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Saffolds replacement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 6 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Gunner who’s the projected guard in the draft that’s just monstrous in size and strength that might fall to us? Don’t mean to put you on the spot but you’re my go-to expert all things draft. I don't think that profile fits Kromer's preference for athletic linemen. Zone blocking is what they WANT to be good at. McD has ALWAYS wanted them to be good at zone blocking. Which requires more athletic guys who work together as they move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 8 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Gunner who’s the projected guard in the draft that’s just monstrous in size and strength that might fall to us? Don’t mean to put you on the spot but you’re my go-to expert all things draft. Either Andrew Vorhees, USC... or Matt Bergeron from Syracuse as a tackle - guard convert... in the 2nd. Or Braden Daniels, Utah in the 3rd. 7 hours ago, MJS said: I think Bates is fine if he is your worst starter on the line and there are better starters all around him. It's very difficult to have strong starters at every spot. I think he is okay. But I don't think he should be guaranteed a job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Either Andrew Vorhees, USC... or Matt Bergeron from Syracuse as a tackle - guard convert... in the 2nd. Or Braden Daniels, Utah in the 3rd. I think he is okay. But I don't think he should be guaranteed a job. If you find a player that’s better than beats at left guard then that’s fine but I think he is a starting quality guard Ike being back is going to help you have a quality back up at three different positions We really need to solidify that right guard position and hope that Spencer Brown settles in this year. I would also draft competition for Spencer Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 12 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Good move. Ike is that guy who you are never quite satisfied with as a starter but who is a very solid backup who isn't gonna be a turnstile. Still need an upgrade at the starting spot.... but a healthy Ike is better than 2022 shell of Roger Saffold. Agreed. If Ike is our 6th or 7th best Olinemen that can't play Center we are doing well. In 2021, when Ike started our Oline was above average or the best it has been in the Beane/McD era. Bates and Ike are very serviceable. Sign one great Olinemen and draft one early and we can turn this around quick. Ike back after a year recovered from injury is an upgrade. 12 hours ago, GunnerBill said: So I like Ike. I am not willing to give up on Spencer unless I get a can't pass it up opportunity. I am less excited by Bates. I think he should be in a competition for a job. Their priority should be getting the best FA guard available and work it out from there. Agreed, go get an above average Guard in FA. I like Bates more than you. But, Bates and Ike are not two answers, but part of one answer and a back up. IMO, between the two of them they can play one starting OG position. Great contract on Ike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 9 hours ago, MJS said: I think Bates is fine if he is your worst starter on the line and there are better starters all around him. It's very difficult to have strong starters at every spot. Agreed 9 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Yea, I’d like to see them move Bates back over to LG and draft a RG on day one or two. Totally agree, I think Bates is better at LG (and covers back up C). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 easy decision, sign your own. see how he does now that he is completely healthy. he was strong before the injury. my understanding is that he has come back to 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 15 hours ago, RyanC883 said: round 1 DE incoming! I surprisingly would not mind a first round DE or Safety…I’m looking at ‘23 and ‘24 as a mini rebuild to finding the next wave of foundational players….👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG Murdock Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 17 hours ago, Victory Formation said: Nobody’s saying that, he’s good depth though, which is great because football is a violent sport, y’know? If your going to post here you better understand very obvious sarcasm..... Geez.. Where were you during my real estate sales days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 6 hours ago, RG Murdock said: If your going to post here you better understand very obvious sarcasm..... Geez.. Where were you during my real estate sales days? What are you in third grade? Sarcasm is the lowest form of comedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Was there ever a doubt ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 3:08 PM, Albany,n.y. said: When I opened your link, it was from last year. Here's today's link: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-re-sign-g-ike-boettger-to-one-year-deal On 3/3/2023 at 5:56 PM, Draconator said: Did everyone miss the fact this the article referenced in the original post was from 2022? Well you missed that Albany did not and posted correct article. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Sweet that shores up the Oline giving us free reign to use our first on a DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 7:29 PM, Dr.Sack said: Can play all 3 interior OL positions - great move. He can play all 3 interior OL positions poorly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 2:45 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said: Good depth, still young, has potential at G and C. He’s fine for depth. RB’s and O Linemen get hurt. You want depth on the defensive line to keep them fresh, but O Line as they get banged up. Hopefully we still go after two starters, possibly one under 30 Guard in FA, and one in the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) On 3/3/2023 at 3:50 PM, GunnerBill said: So I like Ike. I am not willing to give up on Spencer unless I get a can't pass it up opportunity. I am less excited by Bates. I think he should be in a competition for a job. Their priority should be getting the best FA guard available and work it out from there. I agree. I also agree with many on here that he has to go back to LG and I will add that he needs to work full time at the position. Get a true C backup for Morse. Edited March 5, 2023 by ColoradoBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I agree. I also agree with many on here that he has to go back to RG and I will add that he needs to work full time at the position. Get a true C backup for Morse. LG.😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: LG.😉 Thanks, I correct my post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I like Ike. I always did. But he is 29 in October and coming off his second achilles. He was a raw, late bloomer at Iowa and took some time in the NFL. The notion that he is young with upside is misguided and inaccurate. At the same time I think he represents safisfactory, cheap, functional depth. But if he is starting at guard come September, something went wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Airseven said: He can play all 3 interior OL positions poorly. Funny but true. He's better than Saffold at least. I'm ok with him as depth but there's no way I want him as a starter anymore than Brown at RT. We gotta draft 2 olineman. Edited March 5, 2023 by LABILLBACKER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Funny but true. He's better than Saffold at least. So Mcbean upgraded the OL!!?? Awesome Job! I knew they could do it!! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 9:40 AM, machine gun kelly said: He’s fine for depth. RB’s and O Linemen get hurt. You want depth on the defensive line to keep them fresh, but O Line as they get banged up. Hopefully we still go after two starters, possibly one under 30 Guard in FA, and one in the draft. It is odd how game has changed. There used to be defense lines where starters would rarely go out and backups were happy when they got any reps not in blowout games but current model is waves of defense linemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/article272747150.html Quote "He's a king. I freaking love Ike," Bills quarterback Josh Allen said this past season. "I don't think you can find one guy in the world that has a bad thing to say about Ike. The ultimate, ultimate team guy." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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In Summary Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 5:50 PM, GunnerBill said: So I like Ike. I am not willing to give up on Spencer unless I get a can't pass it up opportunity. I am less excited by Bates. I think he should be in a competition for a job. Their priority should be getting the best FA guard available and work it out from there. Agree. I would add that the likelihood of Morse going down for an extended period is high so it's really about starter level replacements for both the guards and center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I like it, 2022 was effectively a red-shirt year for Ike coming off a very serious injury. Not a bad "kick the tires" season to see if he can be a depth option, at worst it is camp competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/5/2023 at 6:21 AM, Airseven said: He can play all 3 interior OL positions poorly. Ike is not that bad He’s just not someone you would want starting all season Those players are still needed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Ike is not that bad He’s just not someone you would want starting all season Those players are still needed Bills used to have a swing tackle (I think he was a 4th round pick) who could play either position and sometimes was 6th OL but when forced to play multiple games as starter his performance went down and he did not have the ability to be a full time starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) He's def been this teams Achilles the last two seasons Edited March 9, 2023 by Sharky7337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 In addition to Ike, could we be overlooking Van Dermark and Anderson from our PS as depth/BU/competition? Been on the PS for a year and Van Dermark did have a RAS score of 9.44. Not saying don't draft or look into FA'S, but may be options.🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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