jkeerie Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Heels20X6 said: The Bengals game is a lot different with Von and Daquan in. That being said, Frazier's milquetoast game plan set the team up for failure. Interesting...watching NFL Primetime with Berman, Booger and Keyshawn. Key just said that the difference in the pass rush on Burrows from last week to this week was the footing. With the snow Bills pass rushers couldn't get to Burrows. I was surprised at that take by Key. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Simon said: You cannot jack a guy in the back when both of you are sprinting OB; it's a dangerous play and a clear penalty every time. My left brain agrees. It’s a clear penalty. My right brain still hates to see a playoff game effectively end on a penalty that did not impact the play of the field. I’d say the same about a running into the punter, taunting, et. So yes, I think there should be a somewhat different standard in the playoffs. I’ll admit it’s hard to know where to draw the playoff line, but this one just seemed unnecessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, MPT said: Maybe you would be outraged. I cringed at some of the personal fouls Josh drew this year. It's smart on his part but it's ridiculous that QBs get away with flopping out of bounds constantly. Dude, give it up - it was clearly a penalty and stupid one at that. Game was probably going to overtime before that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I am still shaking my head over the one play where they let the entire thing run for a Cin stop, let the punt teams come out, and then the refs called a do-over for KC. On said do-over, they call a defensive hold for a first down for KC. I mean, can you write a better script? 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: Bottom line is we need more difference makers. If beane doesn’t go offense in the first round this board is going to melt down. And I don’t necessarily mean wr either. A stud guard could be a difference maker for US If we let Poyer and Edmunds walk and draft their replacements, that will free up cap to sign FA for offense. There is a way to draft defense and still get Allen more help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, birdo67 said: It's gotta be hard to tell where the sideline is when you're moving that fast - but still, "Hey, the QB is slowing down, and my entire coaching staff and team seems really close to me!" I agree game speed. But NFL players are keenly aware of where the sidelines are. He knows the angle mahomes is taking is to go out of bounds many yards before he lays hands. Should have pulled up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, MPT said: Maybe you would be outraged. I cringed at some of the personal fouls Josh drew this year. It's smart on his part but it's ridiculous that QBs get away with flopping out of bounds constantly. There are ticky-tack roughing or personal fouls called at times but this wasn’t one of them. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I am still shaking my head over the one play where they let the entire thing run for a Cin stop, let the punt teams come out, and then the refs called a do-over for KC. On said do-over, they call a defensive hold for a first down for KC. I mean, can you write a better script? The hold was on Eli Apple so I'll allow it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Yeah NFL isn’t doing KC any favours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, davefan66 said: I agree game speed. But NFL players are keenly aware of where the sidelines are. He knows the angle mahomes is taking is to go out of bounds many yards before he lays hands. Should have pulled up. Didn’t even have to pull up but he reached out and shoved him, well after both of them crossed the sideline. Clear and stupid foul 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Dude said: Allen was drafted in 2018, his new contract began in 2022. Burrow was drafted in 2020. Wouldn’t the same time frame apply to their franchise QB? Asking bc I really don’t know. It will depend on whether they think the price will go up the longer they wait. Additionally...locking up the QB defines how much cap room you have moving forward. Don't know if the Bengals think that way. You make a valid point though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, HomeTeam said: Even with Von, we need some more blue chips. I know that's easier said than done but hopefully we can find one in the draft. I do agree that - old as it is - the recipe for success is still the same 3 years later. You CONTINUE to make DLine a priority. Recognize that Epenesa and Basham were wasted picks, but that you have something in Miller and Rousseau, and you keep striving to build an elite pass rush because that WILL make a huge difference when the games matter most. it’s tricky because OL is also a huge priority now but as much as people wanna scream about getting a WR2, I think priority 1a and 1b is OL and DL (pass rusher) still. Unfortunately you can’t control injury luck (unless you’re KC maybe) , but as far as approach, once you have the franchise QB in place, emphasis on OL&DL and the surrounding skill positions will benefit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Better than hearing who dey for another 2 weeks and how Burrow is the man. Cincy has been about the most cocky team in recent memory since last week. Glad they got forcibly humbled tonight. i think we are sore from a few trash talkers after the game but at the end of the day i think cincy and their fans showed class for the damar situation and am pretty suprised how hated they are now by this fanbase. they are a small market team that have been the bottom of the barrel for as long as us and came out of the blue to be really good. they are a afc rival so i hope we stomp mudholes in their skulls when we play em. today showed they arent that good and we need to adjust whatever it was that was the garbage we played in our game. but i dont have this extreme hatred i see. tired of the cincy kc hype so ill be flocking or swooping..whatever phillies fan base does for the sb for a game lol. but cincy got hosed by the refs imo. kc aint that good either. good news for us. Edited January 30, 2023 by Buffarukus 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Interesting...watching NFL Primetime with Berman, Booger and Keyshawn. Key just said that the difference in the pass rush on Burrows from last week to this week was the footing. With the snow Bills pass rushers couldn't get to Burrows. I was surprised at that take by Key. I think footing was an issue but mainly the lack of gameplanni g the bills did. For it. As far as pass rush that makes sense but the flip side is cinci did get pressure the difference is burrow was getting rid of it quick to open guys. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 HOWS THAT KNIFE TO THE CHEST FEEL BENGALS???? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 40 minutes ago, Let's Go Buffalo said: The Refs and the Bengals gave the Chiefs way too many chances! That was a personal foul in 2023, 2003, 1983, and 1963. Watch old film. They threw the hankies for out of bounds 💩 💩 💩 like that back in da day! Karma got Cincy for all the complaining they did! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdo67 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Crazy thing is on the Bengals final possession with the game in the balance and a defining moment for coach and QB, they threw deep on 3rd and 3. Not the smartest play or decision and seems awfully familiar. I also wondered why every OC has seemed to catch this awful disease. They try to plan 4 steps ahead and just outsmart themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: My left brain agrees. It’s a clear penalty. My right brain still hates to see a playoff game effectively end on a penalty that did not impact the play of the field. I’d say the same about a running into the punter, taunting, et. So yes, I think there should be a somewhat different standard in the playoffs. I’ll admit it’s hard to know where to draw the playoff line, but this one just seemed unnecessary. But it did impact the play on the field. Taking a shot at Mahomes (who is already injured) can have the outcome of taking him out of the game. It was a stupid penalty and one that will be called EVERY time because the league is intent on protecting quarterbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Watching the replay again on NFLN omg you have to throw the flag on that moron. Just so unnecessary 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, DJB said: Yeah NFL isn’t doing KC any favours Yeah I saw both of the blocks in the back in real time. And the NFL looooves calling those regardless of whether it's legit or not. There's only one reason not to call multiple obvious penalties on the final return of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, davefan66 said: Then tell the defender to not even touch the QB on the sidelines like he did. It was a clear penalty. They give the defenders the benefit of the doubt when they pull up usually…it’s not always easy for those big guys to slow down. looked like he did to me but mahomes sold it like the defender steamrolled him. I don’t think they get that call without the flop but it’s technically a penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 And Chris Jones was the player of the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, DapperCam said: If we let Poyer and Edmunds walk and draft their replacements, that will free up cap to sign FA for offense. There is a way to draft defense and still get Allen more help. Well that’s where a debate comes. I’m good with letting poyer walk and I was before the season started if it meant we got to keep edmunds. We aren’t going to have a lot of cap space either way. If we’re trying to replace both poyer and edmunds in this draft while the offense gets neglected yet again then we’re just spinning our wheels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: So you think the tumble Mahomes took was fake? What about both of his feet clearly OOB when he was pushed? Mahomes took a dive and embellished what was most definitely a late push. But he was smart enough to ensure the flag. Edited January 30, 2023 by Airseven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Heels20X6 said: But it did impact the play on the field. Taking a shot at Mahomes (who is already injured) can have the outcome of taking him out of the game. It was a stupid penalty and one that will be called EVERY time because the league is intent on protecting quarterbacks. It should be called every time because it’s a foul .. period. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, MPT said: Yeah I saw both of the blocks in the back in real time. And the NFL looooves calling those regardless of whether it's legit or not. There's only one reason not to call multiple obvious penalties on the final return of the game. That’s a better argument than the push out of bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, HomeTeam said: Bills need more impact players. Players like Chris Jones really show up in key moments. I'm curious as to what Beane and McDermott got from this game. They are always preaching growth mindset. They can learn a lot from the Chiefs and the Bengals. Jones was a second round, pick 37 in 2016. Those players are out there for Bean to find. Bills picked Shaq Lawson in round 1 that year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Interesting...watching NFL Primetime with Berman, Booger and Keyshawn. Key just said that the difference in the pass rush on Burrows from last week to this week was the footing. With the snow Bills pass rushers couldn't get to Burrows. I was surprised at that take by Key. Yeah, that's a pretty bad take considering Cincy was getting pressure rushing 3 against us. Edited January 30, 2023 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Interesting...watching NFL Primetime with Berman, Booger and Keyshawn. Key just said that the difference in the pass rush on Burrows from last week to this week was the footing. With the snow Bills pass rushers couldn't get to Burrows. I was surprised at that take by Key. Weird, it didn’t stop the Bengals pass rushers last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, DJB said: Yeah NFL isn’t doing KC any favours hahaha. I have never seen a team get hosed like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: They give the defenders the benefit of the doubt when they pull up usually…it’s not always easy for those big guys to slow down. looked like he did to me but mahomes sold it like the defender steamrolled him. I don’t think they get that call without the flop but it’s technically a penalty I thought the guy clearly pushed and didn’t pull up. I don’t think it was a flop though I can’t stand Mahomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Heels20X6 said: But it did impact the play on the field. Taking a shot at Mahomes (who is already injured) can have the outcome of taking him out of the game. It was a stupid penalty and one that will be called EVERY time because the league is intent on protecting quarterbacks. Then wait 20 seconds like they do all the time. I’m not saying it wasn’t a foul, and I’m really not defending it. I’m just saying that the standard for throwing a flag like that should be a bit higher in the final seconds of a championship game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: And Chris Jones was the player of the game. The way he kept saying "Burrowhead" in the presser...you knew he was going to play like a man possessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Buffalo Dude said: Allen was drafted in 2018, his new contract began in 2022. Burrow was drafted in 2020. Wouldn’t the same time frame apply to their franchise QB? Asking bc I really don’t know. So burrows 4th year of his rookie deal Will end next year. They can pick up his 5th year option which will kick in 2024, and that should pay him probably around the 25 mil mark. Joshs 5th year option kicked in this year, but his big cap hit won’t start till this season coming up. Assuming Bengals extend burrow this off season, his big cap hit won’t start until 2025. So Joshs big cap hit kicks in 2023, burrows 2025. Edited January 30, 2023 by BillsFan130 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Ha! Bengals of all people crying about a "Block in the Back!" Karma up muthaphuckas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Dude said: Allen was drafted in 2018, his new contract began in 2022. Burrow was drafted in 2020. Wouldn’t the same time frame apply to their franchise QB? Asking bc I really don’t know. i get the logic. brr-hoe missed a half season his rookie year too. maybe that changes the timeline a lil bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Andy1 said: Bills picked Shaq Lawson Wasn’t that Rex Ryan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, birdo67 said: I also wondered why every OC has seemed to catch this awful disease. They try to plan 4 steps ahead and just outsmart themselves. Called: Analytics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Mahomes: "God healed my body this week"? Did he find the Lord recently? Didnt look healed to me all game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Wasn’t that Rex Ryan? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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