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2 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

So you think the tumble Mahomes took was fake? 

 

What about both of his feet clearly OOB when he was pushed?

I think the tumble was embellished for sure. I’ve seen him do it 100 times.

 

FWIW, Allen is one of the more skilled floppers in the league as well.

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3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

It’s also going to get crazy when they have to pay their guys. I know every team with expensive QB’s have this issue, but Bengals ownership is notoriously cheap. Burrow will continue to be great, but I’m not sure about this team over time. 

A QB is only as great as his WRs. Pat struggled today with mid guys.

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2 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

but its pretty well known you dont throw a game changing/winning flag in a situation like that unless its agregious. that wasnt at all

Agreed. And not intent to injure, and indeed no harm done to Mahomes. Kind of like throwing a taunting flag in a critical game situation. Or a piddly technical foul late in a close NBA game.  As they say, people don’t pay to see the refs. Let the play on the field decide it. 

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Seems the Chiefs were hell bent on making sure they didn't get beat 2 years in a row in their home stadium by the Bengals in the AFC championship.  And last week the Bengals were all fired up about a few things:  how the NFL awarded the Bills the home game in the divisional when had the Bengals won the cancelled game it would have been the other way around, Bills as favorites, and the Bills-Chiefs neutral site tickets sales.  I could be wrong but I think "extra" motivation means something in these games.  

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1 minute ago, Bills!Win! said:

My worst nightmare came true. All we will hear about is the Kelce bowl (hate both of them) and how Andy Reid is playing his former team. 

Better than hearing who dey for another 2 weeks and how Burrow is the man.  Cincy has been about the most cocky team in recent memory since last week. Glad they got forcibly humbled tonight.

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22 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

It’s just such a close and fast play when the defender is keyed in on stopping him from running up the sideline. I feel for the defender who needs to react at incredible speed on whether to shove or not.

 

Keep in mind Mahomes has made a living pretending to step out of bounds and then tip toeing for another 4 yards. All that said it is a penalty, just unfortunate.

He should get some Kenny P "fake slide" treatment for exactly this stunt. Swallow your whistles the next few times it happens, let him know its a scummy move. 

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1 minute ago, Buffarukus said:

 

not really. the hard truth is josh beat mahomes.  frazier beat josh. 

Josh was playing like a man possessed, but unfortunately, the only thing that matters is the final score.

 

Fair or unfair, that's how QBs are measured.

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6 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

There’s 10 other guys on offense lol and Allen has beat mahomes twice and did all he needed to to win last year.  They’re all great with different strengths/weaknesses 

I don't care anymore about all this who's better crap. Josh has the weakest supporting cast by far.  All 3 are amazing. Hopefully this next season will be missing all the insane drama.

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7 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

It’s also going to get crazy when they have to pay their guys. I know every team with expensive QB’s have this issue, but Bengals ownership is notoriously cheap. Burrow will continue to be great, but I’m not sure about this team over time. 

Burrow has one year left before the Bengals make him the highest paid player in the NFL. 

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2 minutes ago, HomeTeam said:

Bills need more impact players. Players like Chris Jones really show up in key moments. 

 

I'm curious as to what Beane and McDermott got from this game. They are always preaching growth mindset. They can learn a lot from the Chiefs and the Bengals. 

 

The Bengals game is a lot different with Von and Daquan in.

 

That being said, Frazier's milquetoast game plan set the team up for failure.

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2 minutes ago, HomeTeam said:

Bills need more impact players. Players like Chris Jones really show up in key moments. 

 

I'm curious as to what Beane and McDermott got from this game. They are always preaching growth mindset. They can learn a lot from the Chiefs and the Bengals. 


we had a Chris jones. But he got hurt. Chiefs key players never do. 

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4 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

I actually liked the intentional grounding call. It was closer to 10 yards in front of the RB. I thought the refs missed a couple of blatant grounding calls on both teams during the game. 

 

The personal foul to end the game was a 100% have to call it penalty. Mahomes was a full yard out of bounds before the guy shoved him. Not a whole lot of force but holy moly was it late. 

 

Refs probably favored the Chiefs overall, but the Chiefs did have a TD called back on a ticky tack holding penalty. 

 

Just re-watched the intentional grounding. It was 5 yards in front of the receiver but never made it back to the line of scrimmage so it was actually a good call.

 

The personal foul was still terrible though. In real time he was out of bounds for about a tenth of a second and the defender barely touched him. You just can't call ticky tack stuff when it decides the entire game.

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13 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I was jumping off the couch yelling "I cant believe he did it; you f'ing moron" before the flag even came in :blush:

 

(my wife was going what? what happened?! what did he do?!-)

I watched Ossai push Mahomes and said “He just cost Cincy the game.” before I even saw the flag. 

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8 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

That’s true but this will be what the media focuses on.   Manning could not beat Brady til he did an it was a thing.  I see I struck a nerve  with the response.  

What the media focuses on is generally not the correct thing. All that matters is the actual truth, not what the media thinks. 

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1 minute ago, MPT said:

 

Just re-watched the intentional grounding. It was 5 yards in front of the receiver but never made it back to the line of scrimmage so it was actually a good call.

 

The personal foul was still terrible though. In real time he was out of bounds for about a tenth of a second and the defender barely touched him. You just can't call ticky tack stuff when it decides the entire game.


Then tell the defender to not even touch the QB on the sidelines like he did.  It was a clear penalty.

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4 minutes ago, MPT said:

 

Just re-watched the intentional grounding. It was 5 yards in front of the receiver but never made it back to the line of scrimmage so it was actually a good call.

 

The personal foul was still terrible though. In real time he was out of bounds for about a tenth of a second and the defender barely touched him. You just can't call ticky tack stuff when it decides the entire game.

 

LOL if that was Josh Allen we’d be outraged.

 

Football players learn to play the sidelines from flag and from peewee

Don’t shove the player after he’s clear out of bounds

 

This one wasn’t even close

 

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13 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I was more like “no, they are NOT going to throw the flag on that one…holy crap they just threw the flag!

Any game can be manipulated by the refs, going EITHER way, by simply calling offensive holding, or defensive holding for an automatic first down.

 

All depends on if the refs want the team with the ball to succeed or fail.

 

That call on the push out of bounds literally decided the game.

 

I wish I had more of a feel for what that would look like from the perspective of the guy committing the foul; I think it's quite possible he/you/me/anyone wouldn't be even CLOSE to being aware of where the sideline is on that play, especially as he is running as fast as he can and is focused on Mahomes, not the ground.

 

Then again, maybe NFLers would say "No, you can tell where you are on the field, that's guy's just an idiot."

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

NFL wants mahomes to be the new micheal jordan "flu game" so bad. I'd be livid if I was a bengals fan, mahomes got so many breaks and calls their way all game. That last dive Hubbard got drug to the ground by his jersey, no call.

KC never ever gets called for holding its ridiculous 

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2 minutes ago, davefan66 said:


Then tell the defender to not even touch the QB on the sidelines like he did.  It was a clear penalty.

It's gotta be hard to tell where the sideline is when you're moving that fast - but still, "Hey, the QB is slowing down, and my entire coaching staff and team seems really close to me!"

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Just now, Beck Water said:

 

LOL if that was Josh Allen we’d be outraged.

 

Football players learn to play the sidelines from flag and from peewee

 

 

 

Maybe you would be outraged. I cringed at some of the personal fouls Josh drew this year. It's smart on his part but it's ridiculous that QBs get away with flopping out of bounds constantly.

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4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

probably 2- They will pick up his 5th year option and then year 6 his insane contract will kick in.

Allen was drafted in 2018, his new contract began in 2022. 
 

Burrow was drafted in 2020. 
 

Wouldn’t the same time frame apply to their franchise QB?

 

Asking bc I really don’t know. 

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