Draconator Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I don't think McBeane is going to take this domination by Cincinnati lightly. Some heads are going to roll. I'm kinda refreshing Twitter to see what it's going to be. I know, way too soon, but something is going to go down. I just don't know what or who it's going to be. Most likely scenario in my mind both Frasier and Dorsey are gone. 7 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 You're being way too optimistic. I hope you're right but prepare to be disappointed. 5 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Process said: You're being way too optimistic. I hope you're right but prepare to be disappointed. Most likely the case... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I think Frazier should absolutely be gone. 13 seconds, now this whole season. and if McD wants to save his own butt he will fire Dorsey and get a better OC (hopefully Reich) to take the reins and make the offense more efficient and fluid 6 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Little chance anything major changes unless someone hires Frazier as HC. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Man Frank Reich really had the Eagles rolling when he was their OC. Unfortunately I think the motto “trust the process” is going to sell this all as part of the medicine needed to win a championship and nothing happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Frazier and Kromer the guru OL coach for sure. Dorsey unlikely but possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) I'd like to see Dorsey gone just because he had the balls to interview with another team before a huge game. A lot of gall there to do that considering his limited experience and the faith the Bills put in him. And Frazier is a no brainer. "Here's your new Panthers HC, recently fired from the Bills, Ken Dorsey!!!!" Edited January 23, 2023 by Bferra13 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The equipment guy… “The shoes? The shoes. It’s gotta be the shoes.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Dorsey, after getting the endorsement of your franchise QB, just finished year one and improved on nearly every major stat vs 2021 He isn’t getting fired. Frazier, isn’t getting fired for losing Hyde, Miller, Hamlin, not having Tre White (80% of him) until December, or drafting AJ Epenessa and Boogie Basham. ESPN Headline behind their paywall: ”Bills title window is closed.” Good. Let’s go into the off season the actual underdogs we are and will be until we win a SB or reimagine our trenches to look like the Eagles - who would have annihilated us. Edited January 23, 2023 by Big Blitz 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) No changes of OC/DC will be made by McBeane, unless moving of their own accord. Any changes beyond these two, while still here, is incidental. McBeane is not a wave maker. Edited January 23, 2023 by I am the egg man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Only coaches that will be gone are the ones that move on voluntarily 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Nothing will change. That's the problem. McDermott will say they will review their processes and maybe they hire a defensive quality control person who does nothing but get everyone's coffee. Next year will we even make it to the divisional round? We might be 1 and done in the playoffs. Can't count on the team to be down to their 3rd string QB every year for us to win the wildcard Edited January 23, 2023 by KDIGGZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Dorsey, after getting the endorsement of your franchise QB, just finished year one and improved on nearly every major stat vs 2021 He isn’t getting fired. Frazier, isn’t getting fired for losing Hyde, Miller, Hamlin, not having Tre White (80% of him) until December, or drafting AJ Epenessa and Boogie Basham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 It was telling; Greg Cossell saying “a scratch your head offense…no synchronicity…run/pass have literally no relationship to each other”. 14 W team and all we really had was Josh sandlot play. Plus bend and break D. 3 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) He'll promote Brady to passing game coordinator/qb coach. Edited January 23, 2023 by Doc Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 McDermott can't scapegoat the ST coach again, so I'm thinking it'll be Kromer. O-line was bad all year and an absolute train wreck today. Kromer would be a scapegoat that actually deserves to be fired Frazier should've been fired last year, but if he survived 13 seconds I think he survives this. The cynic in me wonders if the Bills are hoping for him to be hired as a HC somewhere else as we would get comp picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 It will surely be Frazier. No way that doesn't happen. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Draconator said: I don't think McBeane is going to take this domination by Cincinnati lightly. Some heads are going to roll. I'm kinda refreshing Twitter to see what it's going to be. I know, way too soon, but something is going to go down. I just don't know what or who it's going to be. Most likely scenario in my mind both Frasier and Dorsey are gone. I don't think they will change OC or DC...probably so position group coach as sacrificial lambs. McDermott is too stubborn and arrogant to make the big changes needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: McDermott can't scapegoat the ST coach again, so I'm thinking it'll be Kromer. O-line was bad all year and an absolute train wreck today. Kromer would be a scapegoat that actually deserves to be fired A positional coach is not a big enough change up. it will have to be a coordinator. The only question is will it only be Frazier or will both get canned? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: It will surely be Frazier. No way that doesn't happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: A positional coach is not a big enough change up. it will have to be a coordinator. The only question is will it only be Frazier or will both get canned? Usually heads don't roll when you go 13-3. Both coordinators are staying unless they choose to leave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: Usually heads don't roll when you go 13-3. Both coordinators are staying unless they choose to leave. Yeah but anyone who was watching with a brain could see this wasn't a 13-3 team. Luck and schedule. Heads need to roll somewhere. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: McDermott can't scapegoat the ST coach again, so I'm thinking it'll be Kromer. O-line was bad all year and an absolute train wreck today. Kromer would be a scapegoat that actually deserves to be fired Frazier should've been fired last year, but if he survived 13 seconds I think he survives this. The cynic in me wonders if the Bills are hoping for him to be hired as a HC somewhere else as we would get comp picks. No way anybodys hiring Frazier after todays dumpster fire unless Houston is looking for somebody to fire again after a year. Everybody wants Head Coaches from the Offensive side of the ball anyway, not a lifeless un-exciting D-Coordinator who plays bend and get man-handled defense. If Dak is the white Kirk Cousins, Frazier is the black Dick Jauron. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Usually heads don't roll when you go 13-3. Both coordinators are staying unless they choose to leave. These are unique circumstances. Marty Schottenheimer was fired after a 14-2 season. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Bferra13 said: Yeah but anyone who was watching with a brain could see this wasn't a 13-3 team. Luck and schedule. Heads need to roll somewhere. We had the eighth hardest schedule I believe at the end of the year and our wins over KC and Baltimore came with a healthy Von Miller. I don't expect any changes to our coordinators. Just now, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: These are unique circumstances. Marty Schottenheimer was fired after a 14-2 season. How'd that work out for them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Doc Brown said: We had the eighth hardest schedule I believe at the end of the year and our wins over KC and Baltimore came with a healthy Von Miller. I don't expect any changes to our coordinators. How'd that work out for them? Okay. You want to keep Frazier? Lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I said it during the game day thread. I think Frazier will be the scapegoat and let go this year. Last year it was the specials teams coordinator, this year it’ll be the defensive coordinator. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Dorsey and Frazier should go. Neither one will. This will be blamed on emotion, the turmoil and injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Usually heads don't roll when you go 13-3. Both coordinators are staying unless they choose to leave. When the head coach needs to deflect blame, coordinators get fired. Happens every year. Has happened multiple times in just the last few weeks, even from teams that made the playoffs. It definitely could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Draconator said: I don't think McBeane is going to take this domination by Cincinnati lightly. Some heads are going to roll. I'm kinda refreshing Twitter to see what it's going to be. I know, way too soon, but something is going to go down. I just don't know what or who it's going to be. Most likely scenario in my mind both Frasier and Dorsey are gone. I doubt it. Frazier would be my choice. He has shown 3 straight years he can't get it done in the playoffs against good offensive teams. Dorsey was a rookie and probably will improve and learn like most first timers do. Will he ultimately be good enough? Who knows. Nobody does yet but he will likely get the chance to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We had the eighth hardest schedule I believe at the end of the year and our wins over KC and Baltimore came with a healthy Von Miller. I don't expect any changes to our coordinators. How'd that work out for them? The second half of our season was filled with jokers on the schedule for the most part. The writing on the wall was the Bills nearly blowing it to a third string qb at home with the season on the line. Then this beaut. I hope Mr. Pegula is as pissed as I am now. Whatever this team is doing has gotten real stale. Time for a change. Edited January 23, 2023 by Bferra13 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Brady will be hired as OC of the Jests. Someone will be promoted for no apparent reason. Daboll will hire a soon to be former assistant or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: I think Frazier should absolutely be gone. 13 seconds, now this whole season. and if McD wants to save his own butt he will fire Dorsey and get a better OC (hopefully Reich) to take the reins and make the offense more efficient and fluid If I'm Terry Pegula and seen how we've exited the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years, I'd insist on McD firing both Frazier and Dorsey. Brandon and Sean should also be on thin ice. Draft multiple players on offense and scrup that ridiculous zone defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Eric Washington if anyone. That’s it The D line has gotten worse as the season went on. It’s gotten worse since he was hired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: I think Frazier should absolutely be gone. 13 seconds, now this whole season. and if McD wants to save his own butt he will fire Dorsey and get a better OC (hopefully Reich) to take the reins and make the offense more efficient and fluid This whole season? They were 13 and three. Edited January 23, 2023 by John from Riverside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: No way anybodys hiring Frazier after todays dumpster fire unless Houston is looking for somebody to fire again after a year. Everybody wants Head Coaches from the Offensive side of the ball anyway, not a lifeless un-exciting D-Coordinator who plays bend and get man-handled defense. If Dak is the white Kirk Cousins, Frazier is the black Dick Jauron. Apparently except the Bills who have McDermott who is the white Dick Jauron. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Billznut said: When the head coach needs to deflect blame, coordinators get fired. Happens every year. Has happened multiple times in just the last few weeks, even from teams that made the playoffs. It definitely could happen. I could see Kromer and Washington possibly getting the boot. That's it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Defensive line coach needs a hard look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Higgins hair Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The right move here is first, to see if Dorsey is hired away. If not, remove him. IMO, his creativity and ability to adapt/choose the next level of playbook plays to the situation isn’t even college level talent. He freezes up mentally and reverts to vertical throws. Dorsey is losing Diggs. He’s already ruined Gabe. Knox is an afterthought. If we want to keep this team mentally in the game, I would certainly look to Reich. Smarter and proven. The question will be this: Will McDermott be too insecure to pull that move? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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