Tipster19 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Can’t have the internal turmoil so either trade Josh, and that’s not going to happen or get rid of Diggs. Shed his contract, get a return in assets, draft pick(s) and/or player(s) and rebuild this offense that is more balanced. Now I don’t fault Diggs for being frustrated but this offense is lopsided and needs to be more reasonable. Earlier in another post I clamored for Texas RB Bijan Robinson and while that may not happen my point is still the same. Provide better playmakers than the ones we have and get some of this pressure off of Josh, it’s too much and teams should not be this reliant on one player. I don’t think it would be that difficult to fix this OL. While better players are needed I believe that they can be obtainable. Kansas City replaced their whole OL in one year and they are doing fine. Make Kromer earn his paycheck with a formidable run game. It looks like there is some significant changes in store for the coaching staff and the roster but have it make sense with a logical strategy and personnel. Tone down this chaotic pass happy offense and get some balance to it. To me some obvious departures would be Frazier, possibly Dorsey, Singletary, Davis and a couple/few OL. I don’t expect Poyer to be back either, we need better speed in the secondary. It’s going to be quite the off season, Beane is going to have his hands full but it’s sorely needed because today was a total embarrassment. 19 2 2 6 5 37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just because you can say things for free on the internet doesn’t mean you should. What an atrocious idea. 16 1 8 9 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Now hear me out…… 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Can’t see them trading their only 1 legit weapon on offense. Unless you have his replacement lined up you have to stick with him. Diggs is an emotional player and I think this little outburst will be forgotten in no time. I don’t have any concerns with Allen and Diggs moving past this. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 As if Diggs had been anything else but a proven star for all the time he's been here. And him and Josh work great together. Yeah a few average games (mostly because of schemes than his own play) and he should be out? P.S. Keep your current job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 And only $37.6M in dead cap…….plus the cost of his replacement. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: Can’t have the internal turmoil so either trade Josh, and that’s not going to happen or get rid of Diggs. Shed his contract, get a return in assets, draft pick(s) and/or player(s) and rebuild this offense that is more balanced. Now I don’t fault Diggs for being frustrated but this offense is lopsided and needs to be more reasonable. Earlier in another post I clamored for Texas RB Bijan Robinson and while that may not happen my point is still the same. Provide better playmakers than the ones we have and get some of this pressure off of Josh, it’s too much and teams should not be this reliant on one player. I don’t think it would be that difficult to fix this OL. While better players are needed I believe that they can be obtainable. Kansas City replaced their whole OL in one year and they are doing fine. Make Kromer earn his paycheck with a formidable run game. It looks like there is some significant changes in store for the coaching staff and the roster but have it make sense with a logical strategy and personnel. Tone down this chaotic pass happy offense and get some balance to it. To me some obvious departures would be Frazier, possibly Dorsey, Singletary, Davis and a couple/few OL. I don’t expect Poyer to be back either, we need better speed in the secondary. It’s going to be quite the off season, Beane is going to have his hands full but it’s sorely needed because today was a total embarrassment. There's been talk of this. Reported here... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I could be reading spotrac incorrectly, but it looks like we would trigger 45mm in dead cap by trading Diggs. He is 100% untradeable for that reason alone. Diggs is the same diva he's been all 8 years in the league. We just have to deal with it PS - he's worth the headache 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 The Bills have a better run game than the Chiefs right now. The Chiefs Offense is more lopsided than the Bills, and is based on one player. Maybe the Chiefs should trade Kelce for more assets to rebuild their Offense so that it is more balanced. lol. wtf 1 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Mr. WEO said: The Bills have a better run game than the Chiefs right now. The Chiefs Offense is more lopsided than the Bills, and is based on one player. Maybe the Chiefs should trade Kelce for more assets to rebuild their Offense so that it is more balanced. lol. wtf Diggs for Kelce straight up! BRILLIANT!!!!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Internal turmoil?!?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) This is one of the most insane posts of the year. Congrats. I see cliff jumping truly does bring out the crazies at times. They are not going to a "ground game". Give me a break dude. What's next? Do you want to turn Allen into a safe game manager? Edited January 23, 2023 by Big Turk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 More like Tipsy19, eh? I kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: Can’t have the internal turmoil so either trade Josh, and that’s not going to happen or get rid of Diggs. Shed his contract, get a return in assets, draft pick(s) and/or player(s) and rebuild this offense that is more balanced. Now I don’t fault Diggs for being frustrated but this offense is lopsided and needs to be more reasonable. Earlier in another post I clamored for Texas RB Bijan Robinson and while that may not happen my point is still the same. Provide better playmakers than the ones we have and get some of this pressure off of Josh, it’s too much and teams should not be this reliant on one player. I don’t think it would be that difficult to fix this OL. While better players are needed I believe that they can be obtainable. Kansas City replaced their whole OL in one year and they are doing fine. Make Kromer earn his paycheck with a formidable run game. It looks like there is some significant changes in store for the coaching staff and the roster but have it make sense with a logical strategy and personnel. Tone down this chaotic pass happy offense and get some balance to it. To me some obvious departures would be Frazier, possibly Dorsey, Singletary, Davis and a couple/few OL. I don’t expect Poyer to be back either, we need better speed in the secondary. It’s going to be quite the off season, Beane is going to have his hands full but it’s sorely needed because today was a total embarrassment. No I will Not sign up to roll back Bills football to the 1970s run *****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 This is the message board equivalent of "No disrespect, but your mother's a *****". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 46 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: Can’t have the internal turmoil so either trade Josh, and that’s not going to happen or get rid of Diggs. Shed his contract, get a return in assets, draft pick(s) and/or player(s) and rebuild this offense that is more balanced. Now I don’t fault Diggs for being frustrated but this offense is lopsided and needs to be more reasonable. “internal turmoil” A few words on the sidelines after their season ended in terrible fashion…these guys seem like good friends so they will get over it… Have you ever played a team sport? This happens… even in amateur park leagues … let alone the level these guys are at… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Your emotional give it a day a week whatever it takes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Can we trade posters? I'll trade OP for "future considerations". 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 For what? A high draft pick to spend on another mediocre DL or DB who won't suit up until week 10 and be basically invisible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Davis is a potential trade piece - could see trading Davis and the 27th to move up to snag a WR we like. Then trade a 2nd for Hopkins. We’ll have the money because I’m not resigning Poyer or Oliver. Btw I’m not saying I would do that but I’m listening and looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I in no way want to trade Diggs. But why in the world would you pay him top 5-7 WR money and then not use him? And there was way more than today that they didn’t use him like a true #1 receiver should be used. Keep Diggs, find a better OC that can scheme plays for him to excel. Most of Diggs’s receptions this year were smaller gains. Not a lot of big gaining plays. And definitely ignored in far too many games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I stopped reading at trade Josh, who still is the best QB in the league but this offense relies too much on him. We need a better line and better WRs and this offense is rolling again. Trading diggs would be dumb, we need more good WRs not less. Also need to play tighter defense and not let every team roll down the field until we figure it out, cant give up easy touchdowns to the good teams 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I stopped reading at trade Josh, who still is the best QB in the league but this offense relies too much on him. We need a better line and better WRs and this offense is rolling again. Trading diggs would be dumb, we need more good WRs not less. Also need to play tighter defense and not let every team roll down the field until we figure it out, cant give up easy touchdowns to the good teams In 2023, if you’re in the playoffs you should have a good to great offense. On defense you should much rather be good with them scoring quick on a deep shot depending what’s going on in the game - at least you are aggressive - at least it didn’t take too much time - you get the ball back quicker. And you answer back. It’s the philosophy. Philosophy on defense has to change. We can still play a 2 deep shell at times or be willing to let them dink and dunk - but against accurate QBS it is literally the worst defense to play and that’s why the Bengals were confident they would expose us. Ravens play elite man coverage and get after the QB. I think that’s how defenses want to play. Edited January 23, 2023 by Big Blitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Davis is a potential trade piece - could see trading Davis and the 27th to move up to snag a WR we like. Then trade a 2nd for Hopkins. We’ll have the money because I’m not resigning Poyer or Oliver. Btw I’m not saying I would do that but I’m listening and looking. It’s not the draft compensation for Hopkins that’s the problem it’s the salary. I don’t care how much the salary cap goes up. We don’t have the money to go after high price free agents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I'm definitely against dumping Diggs. We could get more from Diggs if we had another sure handed stud on the other side and a serious threat of a run game. I suggest signing Josh Jacobs and getting the football in his hands 20+ times a game. We're too one dimensional IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: In 2023, if you’re in the playoffs you should have a good to great offense. On defense you should much rather be good with them scoring quick on a deep shot depending what’s going on in the game - at least you are aggressive - at least it didn’t take too much time - you get the ball back quicker. And you answer back. It’s the philosophy. Philosophy on defense has to change. We can still play a 2 deep shell at times or be willing to let them dink and dunk - but against accurate QBS it is literally the worst defense to play and that’s why the Bengals were confident they would expose us. Ravens play elite man coverage and get after the QB. I think that’s how defenses want to play. i agree 100% the defensive philosophy is WAY TOO PASSIVE. i want Schwartz back but i believe he just went to Detroit, but hopefully Frazier goes and we get a more aggressive system in here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 How about instead of Diggs. You use your 1st. Draft a Rookie WR. Put him out at WR2 and get Allen some weapons. then in rounds 2,3,4,5,6 OL 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 We could also trade Allen to Bears for Fields and their #1 pick and next years 1st. 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: How about instead of Diggs. You use your 1st. Draft a Rookie WR. Put him out at WR2 and get Allen some weapons. then in rounds 2,3,4,5,6 OL Let’s see how the draft falls After today, my appreciation of positions has opened wide up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: And only $37.6M in dead cap…….plus the cost of his replacement. that is if you dump him. You trade it goes to the next team. Now Unless diggs wants out I am not with this but, his cap will follow him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr.Sack said: We could also trade Allen to Bears for Fields and their #1 pick and next years 1st. 😂 Yes let's trade Allen and Diggs for a bunch of draft picks and hope we strike gold again and likely come nowhere close to what we already have 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Big Turk said: Yes let's trade Allen and Diggs for a bunch of draft picks and hope we strike gold again and likely come nowhere close to what we already have Beane is on a 4 year draft drought so he’s do for a 4 year hot streak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Trade Diggs and go to a ground game with JA as your quarterback….🤦🏻♂️ Edited January 23, 2023 by PaulieYayo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, PaulieYayo said: Trade Diggs and go to a ground game with JA as your quarterback….🤦🏻♂️ I mean it sounds good when you are 14 beers into a case... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I could have gone to bed but first I felt the need to say this is such a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Diggs isn't the reason we're doing draw plays on 1st and 20 down multiple scores, or overthrowing receivers all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: that is if you dump him. You trade it goes to the next team. Now Unless diggs wants out I am not with this but, his cap will follow him No, we still carry dead cap if we trade him. Amount depends on if it's a pre-June 1 or post-June 1 designated trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Draconator said: There's been talk of this. Reported here... Enough with the freakin’ Peter Pan! It’s not funny. It’s stupid! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Big Turk said: I mean it sounds good when you are 14 beers into a case... See if you can somehow work Ertz into the equation, will ya'? Maybe send Arizona a few new video games for Kyler's gaming system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The Bills have a better run game than the Chiefs right now. The Chiefs Offense is more lopsided than the Bills, and is based on one player. Maybe the Chiefs should trade Kelce for more assets to rebuild their Offense so that it is more balanced. lol. wtf I would've loved to have had Pacheco and McKinnon in Buffalo's backfield yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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