Nextmanup Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Let's hope not! Let them get Brady instead! https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/news/simms-dolphins-are-no-1-team-to-watch-in-lamar-sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Wouldn’t that require draft picks? I can’t imagine that the Ravens let him go without at least tagging him and getting 2 1sts. And then the Dolphins have to pay him. I just don’t see it. 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Agreed. That would be tough to stop. He may not be a great passer but the Miami WRs will be running wide open a fair amount if a defense has to focus on containing Lamar running and Hill/Waddle. It’s a huge roll of the dice at this point though. You just have to wonder if he can stay healthy after ending the last 2 seasons with injuries. 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: Wouldn’t that require draft picks? I can’t imagine that the Ravens let him go without at least tagging him and getting 2 1sts. And then the Dolphins have to pay him. I just don’t see it. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 This will be merged with the other thread, but the Ravens are absolutely franchising Lamar if they can't work out a long-term deal that is reasonable. That means draft picks +/- players which the Dols don't have, plus giving him a fully guaranteed contract which I don't think any team will do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: Wouldn’t that require draft picks? I can’t imagine that the Ravens let him go without at least tagging him and getting 2 1sts. And then the Dolphins have to pay him. I just don’t see it. Dolphins don’t even have a first round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Sounds like a Rams move…. Trade for a QB, give all our picks away. Win a superbowl and be terrible for the next 5 years after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Let's hope not! Let them get Brady instead! https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/news/simms-dolphins-are-no-1-team-to-watch-in-lamar-sweepstakes Please get Lamar and his bad knees and mortgage your future for him! Please do Miami! Jackson is a one trick pony and His knees been failing him the last 2 years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I think Jets would be the ones to watch for Lamar but I think Ravens will just tag him. I think Jets will get Carr if I had to guess. Dolphins lost draft picks going after Brady so they might as well just make it happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) Again I can't see anyone trading 1st rounders and giving a fully guaranteed contract to a guy who has missed the last 1/3 of the season 2 years in a row and wouldn't be available (or at least healthy) for the playoffs. Edited January 15, 2023 by Doc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 He is a Floridian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, mannc said: Dolphins don’t even have a first round pick. This is my point. There’s no way this can happen. Especially in the Conference! Like all of these guys that think about the NFL “as a business”, he will end up playing for Houston because they’re the only team with picks and cap space. And then he will whither into obscurity. Thanks for playing Lamar, you went as far as those skinny legs would take you on a rookie deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: He is a Floridian He's from Pompano Beach, just a bit north of Ft. Lauderdale. The guy grew up a short drive down I-95 to where the Dolphins play now! It'd be a home town type experience for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: He is a Floridian Still doesn't solve Miami's lack of a 1st rounder this year or his desire for a fully guaranteed contact. Unless that's the only way he's stay in Baltimore and he'd be willing to take a standard contract from a team of his choosing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: And then the Dolphins have to pay him. I just don’t see it. Peyton takes the Dolphins coaching job. McDaniel becomes Jackson's butler. 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 When I see stuff like this, it is assuming that Tua is done & will be retiring. That's really a stretch right now. If 2 weeks from now Tua announces his retirement, this makes sense, but right now it's premature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Still doesn't solve Miami's lack of a 1st rounder this year or his desire for a fully guaranteed contact. Unless that's the only way he's stay in Baltimore and he'd be willing to take a standard contract from a team of his choosing. I wonder if his (alleged) demand for a fully guaranteed contract isn’t because of how the Ravens use him. He takes more of a beating there than he would in a more conventional offense with good receivers who can get open. You can put me down as someone who does not want to see another quality QB in the AFCE, especially on the Phins or Jest. Both are a QB away from being very competitive. Edited January 15, 2023 by BarleyNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, Doc said: This will be merged with the other thread, but the Ravens are absolutely franchising Lamar if they can't work out a long-term deal that is reasonable. That means draft picks +/- players which the Dols don't have, plus giving him a fully guaranteed contract which I don't think any team will do. Which means he is NOT being traded requiring picks. They may choose to use non-exclusive tag meaning no draft picks if someone signs but they get to match. The worry is a contract which is easily breakable and clause stating he cannot be tagged. #8 may do that just become a free agent. 11 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I wonder if his (alleged) demand for a fully guaranteed contract isn’t because of how the Ravens use him. He takes more of a beating there than he would in a more conventional offense and with good receivers who can get open. He HAD good receivers but unable to perform and his friend Marquise "Hollywood" Brown went elsewhere to get better stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: He HAD good receivers but unable to perform and his friend Marquise "Hollywood" Brown went elsewhere to get better stats. The good WRs that have come through there have left for the same reason Lamar wants out - Roman’s offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I dont see this happening. They dont have the draft picks and I dont think they even have the cap space to give the contract Lamar wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I wonder if his (alleged) demand for a fully guaranteed contract isn’t because of how the Ravens use him. He takes more of a beating there than he would in a more conventional offense with good receivers who can get open. You can put me down as someone who does not want to see another quality QB in the AFCE, especially on the Phins or Jest. Both are a QB away from being very competitive. Miami doesn't have the draft capital and Lamar probably wouldn't want to play for the Jets or Cheaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: The good WRs that have come through there have left for the same reason Lamar wants out - Roman’s offense. Roman’s offense is designed around his limitations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Which means he is NOT being traded requiring picks. They may choose to use non-exclusive tag meaning no draft picks if someone signs but they get to match. The worry is a contract which is easily breakable and clause stating he cannot be tagged. #8 may do that just become a free agent. The exclusive franchise tag means no team can negotiate with him. Non-excuslive means 2-1st rounders if he signs with another team. Transition tag is ROFR. They will non-exclusive franchise tag him if they can't work out a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Phins dont have the capital to get Lamar away from the Ravens. they dont have the picks, or the $$$$. theyd have to move a bunch of really key players to snag him imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: Phins dont have the capital to get Lamar away from the Ravens. they dont have the picks, or the $$$$. theyd have to move a bunch of really key players to snag him imo. Any why wouldn't they move a bunch of key players to snag him? I'll breathe lightly when this guy signs somewhere outside our division....even if he gets zero respect at this forum! Along with pretty much every other QB in the league not named Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Well, now we know there is zero chance the Dolphins pursue Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 You can't go "All In" without any chips. There will be much better offers out there that Miami can't approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Miami doesn't have the draft capital and Lamar probably wouldn't want to play for the Jets or Cheaters. I’m not making a case for where he will or won’t end up. Just saying that I don’t want to see him or another FQB wind up in either place right now. As for fit, Miami’s offensive scheme and current roster are excellent. It would be difficult, but not impossible for Miami to acquire and pay him. Miami is spending large, but it’s not like they weren’t planning on having to pay a QB soon. And while losing this year’s first makes trading for him more difficult, how about this scenario?Ravens franchise tag him and he refuses to sign it. The draft is in April and he has until mid-July to sign a multi-year deal. That’s plenty of time for him to be traded for picks in 2024 and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Any why wouldn't they move a bunch of key players to snag him? I'll breathe lightly when this guy signs somewhere outside our division....even if he gets zero respect at this forum! Along with pretty much every other QB in the league not named Josh Allen. They would want a 1st rounder to try and get a new QB. 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I’m not making a case for where he will or won’t end up. Just saying that I don’t want to see him or another FQB wind up in either place right now. As for fit, Miami’s offensive scheme and current roster are excellent. It would be difficult, but not impossible for Miami to acquire and pay him. Miami is spending large, but it’s not like they weren’t planning on having to pay a QB soon. And while losing this year’s first makes trading for him more difficult, how about this scenario?Ravens franchise tag him and he refuses to sign it. The draft is in April and he has until mid-July to sign a multi-year deal. That’s plenty of time for him to be traded for picks in 2024 and beyond. I'm torn on whether I'd worry about him being on an AFCE team. I think he's starting to show that he's injury-prone and his contract demands will hamstring a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 48 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: When I see stuff like this, it is assuming that Tua is done & will be retiring. That's really a stretch right now. If 2 weeks from now Tua announces his retirement, this makes sense, but right now it's premature. It’s the dolphins so it very well might not make sense. Which is why it makes sense. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Can’t wait for reports of Lamar impressing in Miami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Kind of amazing how hard Beane knocked it out of the park with the Allen pick. May end up being the only 1st round rookie QB from 2018 that makes it to their second contract with their team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I'll take my chance against Mr. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I don't think Miami is the AFCE team that makes a run at Lamar. I think it's the Jets. A healthy Breece Hall, Michael Carter, and Zonovan Knight at RB. A solid WR group with Wilson, Davis, Moore, Mims, and Berrios. A TE room with Uzomah and Conklin. A top 5 defense to go with it. Lamar in NY with the Jets makes too much sense. Johnson also already said that he is willing to pay whatever as he sees QB as the missing piece. I'm pretty confident this happens if the Ravens can't get him re-signed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I’d love to see how they structure that cap hit. LJ is going to get Mahomes money plus. They are going to have to sign Chubb as well, and that’s going to be big bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Fins would have to give up waddle and two firsts likely. But would ravens trade him in afc? Doubt it. They send him to nfc. Crazy idea? Lions trade Goff to ravens for Lamar. Lions send their two first this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Fins would have to give up waddle and two firsts likely. But would ravens trade him in afc? Doubt it. They send him to nfc. Crazy idea? Lions trade Goff to ravens for Lamar. Lions send their two first this year. A first in 2024 and 2025 doesn't sound as appealing and neither does removing a major weapon for Lamar. And yes, I think they look to move him outside the AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 We usually play Jackson well. Whatever. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I'm good with that. Make them one dimensional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Limeaid said: Roman’s offense is designed around his limitations. Greg Roman’s offenses have always done well for RBs and poorly for QBs. Check this out. His offenses are consistently top 10 rushing and bottom 10 passing. And that’s everywhere he has ever been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 8 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Sounds like a Rams move…. Trade for a QB, give all our picks away. Win a superbowl and be terrible for the next 5 years after. Rams went to two super bowls and won one, and so far have been bad for one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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