We're onto Miami(Miami's headed to Buffalo)...opening line BUF -10! Game at 1:05 PM SUN 1/15

[newcam2012]

9 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Winning matters but I won’t go as far as to hope for injuries. Whoever shows up to play for Miami, I’d like the Bills to just kick their a@@es. We have not played our best football in a long time… it’s time to crank it up!

I'm not advocating a serious injury for either. But I wouldn't mind a twisted ankle that keeps them out of the game. Perhaps that's shallow and or unethical. My point is I just want a Bills win. A loss would be very disturbing for me. The rest of the playoffs won't be the same. I'd probably watch them in a pi$$ed off mood. 

Edited January 11, 2023 by newcam2012

[Big Turk]

 

 

Chris Berman on Primetime Sunday:

"Nobody! And I mean Nobody! Backs into the playoffs like the Miami Dolphins!"

Edited January 11, 2023 by Big Turk

[WyoAZBillfan]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

 

This is like bragging you just pooped your pants and wearing flip-flops. Bye bye pants pockets. 

[chongli]

51 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

thanks man.

 

Looks like Brad Allen’s crew officiated one Bills game this season - our win @ Arrowhead.

 

Bills were flagged 7 times for 35 yards, Chiefs 5 times for 58 yards.

 

https://www.nflpenalties.com/referee/brad-allen?year=2022&view=week

 

 

 

No problem! You probably know this already, but the playoff crews are mixed all-star crews, so it won't be Allen's whole team. Here are the full assignments:

 

https://www.footballzebras.com/2023/01/nfl-assigns-officiating-crews-for-the-wild-card-playoffs/

 

 

Two user comments from the article:

 

"January 9, 2023 at 11:00 pm

Adrian Hill offul and Alex Kemp offul all the others are good officials I think Brad deserves a championship or superbowl hes been great this season"

 

"January 10, 2023 at 3:42 pm

okay- so why is brad allen getting a wild card buffalo game for the 3rd year in a row?"

 

 

Edited January 11, 2023 by chongli

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 hour ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

I would be shocked if tua isn't playing

 

This all sounds like the phins are trying to create a smoke screen and make the bills think he isn't playing

 

that would be foolish. bills I am sure are preparing for Tua either way. No need to prepare for Bridgewater or Skylar.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

I hope Waddle and Hill get banged up in their first possession. This is the playoffs people. All that matters is winning. 

They already are 

[AlfaBill]

1 hour ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Yeah, me 3.

The Bills secondary also worries me.

Watching a game knowing the outcome is very different. Much easier to be objective. 
as an aside Romo really talks up Josh. 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Patrick Duffy said:

I thought it was 4? 

 

When?

 

Had one undocumented incident that most bystanders believe was probably a concussion vs Buffalo

One in Cinncinnati next week, looked very bad

One undetected during the game that resulted in symptoms the following week

 

That makes 2 documented concussions?

 

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Okay. Well that gives him more chance. 

 

What I saw from McDaniel was ambiguous.  He said "he's sweating" which would put him in either Stage 2 or 3.

 

Either way, he can clear by the end of the week if he's actually recovered. 

 

Missing 2 games suggests he had some persistent symptoms, so it may not be a slam dunk that stepping up his activity will have no effect - on the other hand, QB wear red "no contact" jerseys at practice, so he'll go through Stage 5 without actually experiencing contact

 

Interesting times.

Edited January 11, 2023 by Beck Water

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, RiotAct said:

thanks man.

 

Looks like Brad Allen’s crew officiated one Bills game this season - our win @ Arrowhead.

 

Bills were flagged 7 times for 35 yards, Chiefs 5 times for 58 yards.

 

https://www.nflpenalties.com/referee/brad-allen?year=2022&view=week

 

 

That was actually an interesting game, penalty-wise.  Pretty fair, I thought.

 

He actually flagged Travis Kelce for Offensive Pass Interference.  Which I thought he fully deserved, but you seldom see it called.

Called a lot of defensive holding on both teams.

 

Other thing of note was ineligible man downfield called 2x (once on each team).  Bills need to sharpen up on that.

 

Oh, and while I was looking: @GunnerBill, to your point about needing to stop the opponent 4x.  We got two INTs and forced 3 punts, plus a missed FG.  Were stopped 5x ourselves: fumble, 2 punts, twice on downs.

Edited January 11, 2023 by Beck Water

[Big Turk]

13 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

When?

 

Had one undocumented incident that most bystanders believe was probably a concussion vs Buffalo

One in Cinncinnati next week, looked very bad

One undetected during the game that resulted in symptoms the following week

 

That makes 2 documented concussions?

 

 

What I saw from McDaniel was ambiguous.  He said "he's sweating" which would put him in either Stage 2 or 3.

 

Either way, he can clear by the end of the week if he's actually recovered. 

 

Missing 2 games suggests he had some persistent symptoms, so it may not be a slam dunk that stepping up his activity will have no effect - on the other hand, QB wear red "no contact" jerseys at practice, so he'll go through Stage 5 without actually experiencing contact

 

Interesting times.

 

Concusion or not, is there ever going to be a situation where a team in the playoffs is going to allow contact with their QB in practices?  I mean not even playoffs...regular season. What team is allowing their $250 million franchise player to get hit?

 

If there is, the head coach needs to immediately be fired for being an absolute idiot.

Edited January 11, 2023 by Big Turk

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Concusion or not, is there ever going to be a situation where a team in the playoffs is going to allow contact with their QB in practices? 

 

If there is, the head coach needs to immediately be fired for being an absolute idiot.

 

Did I say there were going to be such a situation? 

 

My point is that for a QB, the NFL concussion protocol can't function quite as it's designed to function - where the player takes a bit of contact and then rests to see if any symptoms develop. 

 

You're correct that placing the QB "off limits" in practice only makes sense, but it also limits the value of the protocol in testing whether the player is ready for a game.

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

People really joking about wishing for injuries after everything we've experienced this season. I hope all you fake bills fans/trolls find peace and move on cause that ***** is pathetic and really I'm not even mad just feel sad for you. (Cam)

Edited January 11, 2023 by Kenosha2Buffalo

[rusty shackleford]

2 minutes ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said:

People really joking about wishing for injuries after everything we've experienced this season. I hope all you fake bills fans/trolls find peace and move on cause that ***** is pathetic and really I'm not even mad just feel sad for you. (Cam)

Just ignore that BS don’t engage it.

Edited January 11, 2023 by rusty shackleford

[Italian Bills]

3 hours ago, Seventeen said:

 

If he's medically cleared, I hope he plays and Mostert as well. Otherwise, we'd hear all off season how lucky we were to beat them with Skylar at QB and Mostert out.

Like others were damn lucky playing us when we were missing 50/60% of the defense and with Josh’s elbow in pain ? 
 

Com’on man… 

[Kenosha2Buffalo]

1 minute ago, rusty shackleford said:

Just ignore that BS don’t engage it.

You right 

[Big Turk]

17 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Did I say there were going to be such a situation? 

 

My point is that for a QB, the NFL concussion protocol can't function quite as it's designed to function - where the player takes a bit of contact and then rests to see if any symptoms develop. 

 

You're correct that placing the QB "off limits" in practice only makes sense, but it also limits the value of the protocol in testing whether the player is ready for a game.

 

Yeah, it's an imperfect system but it is inherently so because concussions are in large part a subjective diagnosis...there is no way of legitimately knowing whether a player is truly concussion free or not. Sure there are telltale symptoms at times but many times there are not even tho the person may actually have a concussions which can be made worse with further hits.

 

They rely on baseline tests done in the offseason to compare their current tests to, but as players often have said, some attempt to do worse on their baseline tests to help mask things.

Edited January 11, 2023 by Big Turk

[Big Turk]

3 hours ago, Motor26 said:

Tua hasn't even practiced and is in stage 2 or 3 of the protocol. He won't even be cleared to play by Sunday. 

 

He could be. If I was the doctor clearing him tho, I'd be holding a rosary and saying some Hail Mary's during the game praying he doesn't get another concussion on a basic looking hit.

 

That's more of the thing for me...the Bills hit and the Packers hit were not major hits...you see QBs get hit like that at least 3-4 times a game on each team and very few of them end up with concussions from it. Seemingly Tua's concussion threshold is far lower than other QBs in that it takes far less for him to get one than most other QBs.

Edited January 11, 2023 by Big Turk

[Patrick Duffy]

15 minutes ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said:

People really joking about wishing for injuries after everything we've experienced this season. I hope all you fake bills fans/trolls find peace and move on cause that ***** is pathetic and really I'm not even mad just feel sad for you. (Cam)

 

Yeah, hope there's nobody serious about wanting any players to get injured. But even if joking after what we all witnessed with this team it shows a lack of character

[Ray Stonada]

Another factor in Tua playing or not is the spotlight on the Bills after Damar. Buffalo is the LAST team the NFL wants to see involved in another scary injury.

 

I can see Goodell and Troy Vincent telling Ross he better be damn sure Tua is okay before letting him play. Cause bad PR is something they hate, not because they're so worried about Tua's safety.

 

And yet, if they leave it up to Ross I have a feeling he sends Tua out there. It's just in keeping with his history of cheating, scummy behavior.

 

By the way, I ordered a "Did We Win?" t-shirt from Damar's Chasing M's site today, hoping it arrives in time for the game!

[BRH]

7 hours ago, Seventeen said:

 

If he's medically cleared, I hope he plays and Mostert as well. Otherwise, we'd hear all off season how lucky we were to beat them with Skylar at QB and Mostert out.

After we heard for weeks that there were to be No Excuses about the game in Miami?

 

Eff that.  They don’t get to have it both ways. 

[BillsFan130]

Today we will find out if Tua is playing IMO.

 

If he’s practicing, got to think he’s going to suit up.

 

If he’s not, can’t see him playing.

 

That’s Not really a hot take, but today should clear up the 2-3 days of speculation we had.

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said:

People really joking about wishing for injuries after everything we've experienced this season. I hope all you fake bills fans/trolls find peace and move on cause that ***** is pathetic and really I'm not even mad just feel sad for you. (Cam)

I'm hoping Hill and Waddle get food poisoning Sunday morning and make a full recovery by Monday.

[newcam2012]

4 hours ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said:

People really joking about wishing for injuries after everything we've experienced this season. I hope all you fake bills fans/trolls find peace and move on cause that ***** is pathetic and really I'm not even mad just feel sad for you. (Cam)

You think Dolphin fans wish Hyde and Miller were playing?

4 hours ago, rusty shackleford said:

Just ignore that BS don’t engage it.

I don't think anyone is wishing for serious injuries. Minor ones are in play though. Tell me you would hate if Waddle and Hill limped off the field in the 1st quarter and were ruled out for the game. Sure it's sinister but we are at the point that winning is what matters. 

[muppy]

The miami  neurological medical staff better make the correct call on tuas'  readiness to play. The scrutiny on them is intense so I just hope they make the CORRECT call on that.

 

The Bills will play clean with no intent to injure but we all have seen it IS NFL football. NFL players  DO take their lives in their hands to play at the level intensity and speed they do. on the field. Noone wants him to be hurt

 

WE just want he and his fellow fish to be SQUISHED !~!~!!!!!

 

I scoff at their teal and tangerine dreams.

 

They're going DOWN on Sunday At Home? Book it.

 

GO BILLS!~!~!!!!

 

m

Edited January 11, 2023 by muppy

[Since1981]

Tia’s case was cringe for NFL 10 days ago. Super cringe today. Hamlin impacts Tua. There’s gray areas to concussion recovery, they’re going to sit him one way or another. I’m calling DraftKings now for the W

[Seventeen]

5 hours ago, Italian Bills said:

Like others were damn lucky playing us when we were missing 50/60% of the defense and with Josh’s elbow in pain ? 
 

Com’on man… 

 

True but point is we're a far better team than them and should be able to whoop their butts, Tua or no Tua. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I’ve thought the entire time he would clear and play.

 

It’s a big game. 

[stevewin]

9 hours ago, Process said:

I'm thinking of going to the game with my old man. Haven't been to one in years. He definitely can't stand for three straight hours. Does basically the whole stadium stand for the entire game or is that just certain sections?

For sure there will be a lot of standing in lower bowl.  We've been getting club seats last number of years when we take my Dad which sits for the most part (regular season games at least).  Other option is try to find something 1st row upper deck

[SCBills]

Why does anyone care who plays for Miami?

 

What legitimacy do you need?  Just get a win.  
 

KC is playing exactly nobody this weekend. 

[BillsFan130]

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Why does anyone care who plays for Miami?

 

What legitimacy do you need?  Just get a win.  
 

KC is playing exactly nobody this weekend. 

I would prefer their backup QB to play because objectively I think we would all agree that would give the bills a better chance to win lol.

 

But In saying that, Tua or not, the bills should win.

[Realist]

I imagine Tua will play. The Bills defense needs to have a good day rushing the passer. You know Tua will try and get the ball out quickly if he is pressured even a little bit or he will see the rush and turtle so he doesn't get hit. Also hope the Bills don't take it easy on him, if he's cleared to play by the medical and coaching staffs then that's on them. They can't lay off him because of his history, treat him as they would any other QB.

[RunTheBall]

If Mostert can’t go it won’t matter who is QB for the Fins

[mjt328]

8 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Completely agree with you NFL analysis.

 

Completely disagree with you Dolphin organization analysis.

 

The Dolphins already displayed how they care about winning over Tua's health. The owner cheated on trying to get Brady. The Flores scandal.  No way do I think the organization will do the right thing. 

 

The decision is not supposed to start with the Miami Dolphins.

It's supposed to start with independent neurologists, who need to first clear the player to play.

 

I agree that Miami will do everything in its power to get Tua on the field, even if it's risky for his long-term health.  And Tua has already stated he wants to play.  But will these doctors risk their careers over it?  With everything else going on with Tua, the Dolphins and now Damar Hamlin... you also have to believe the NFL will be watching this whole situation VERY closely.  They can't afford to look the other way and take the chance of another serious on-field incident.

 

Bottom line, I don't think the Miami coaching staff will have the ability to detour around the rules this time.  They already did that in Week 3 and got busted.  This time they have to go by the book.  Not because it's the right thing.  Because the risk of getting caught isn't worth the reward.

 

[PaattMaann]

4 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

If Mostert can’t go it won’t matter who is QB for the Fins

 

Wilson is a pretty good RB, but it is huge that Mostert cant play (I am saying he can't play, not the doc's yet, but the dude just had surgery yesterday on a broken thumb...cant imagine a RB can play like that)

[GolfandBills]

15 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

Wilson is a pretty good RB, but it is huge that Mostert cant play (I am saying he can't play, not the doc's yet, but the dude just had surgery yesterday on a broken thumb...cant imagine a RB can play like that)

You’d be surprised what a playoff game does to players availability 

[PaattMaann]

5 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

You’d be surprised what a playoff game does to players availability 

 

I would not be surprised. There are injuries you can play through. One that doesnt allow you to do your primary job (hold the ball) likely keeps you out. 

[Warriorspikes51]

7 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

You’d be surprised what a playoff game does to players availability 

 

If he can't hold the ball properly, he's a liability 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Question, do we know the last time a player had three concussions in one season? I believe Pickett had two this season. I've heard people say if you get three documented concussions in a CAREER you should think about retiring. This is three in one season.

 

It's not super common but we do hear about players getting two concussions in one season. Three is almost unheard of though.

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Question, do we know the last time a player had three concussions in one season? I believe Pickett had two this season. I've heard people say if you get three documented concussions in a CAREER you should think about retiring. This is three in one season.

 

It's not super common but we do hear about players getting two concussions in one season. Three is almost unheard of though.

Especially when 2 are very close together

[VaMilBill]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Especially when 2 are very close together

But he only had two this season. The bills game it was only a back injury.