We're onto Miami(Miami's headed to Buffalo)...opening line BUF -10! Game at 1:05 PM SUN 1/15

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, BRH said:

Holy christ the posters on this thread.

 

I guarantee you it wouldn't have mattered who our opponent was... you all would have wanted somebody else.  Sorry the Little Sisters of the Poor didn't make the playoffs.

 

Well said.   The two seed was worth playing for.  We did, we won.  Regardless, we wouldn't have gotten NE anyway if we tanked the game, given we'd drop to the three. 

 

Out of all the teams that made the playoffs, who are people wanting over Miami?  Chargers?... Ravens?

 

Bills and Bengals are in similar situations..  Home Games against decent teams if their QB plays.  If their QB doesn't, about as good as you could ask for in the Playoffs. 

[Greg S]

7 minutes ago, BRH said:

Holy christ the posters on this thread.

 

I guarantee you it wouldn't have mattered who our opponent was... you all would have wanted somebody else.  Sorry the Little Sisters of the Poor didn't make the playoffs.

 

No reason to bring the Jets into the conversation. Is Saleh coaching the Dolphins since he said he was going to see us again?

[Warcodered]

10 hours ago, chongli said:

 

That'll they soon be 0-1 ......you know for symmetry.

[Big Turk]

26 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said:

Vegas thinks Tua is out Bills -11 is a massive number 

 

We wouldn’t even get that number if bridgewater was playing right. 

 

The assumption was Bridgewater is playing which is the -10 opening line. It's since gone more towards the Bills because I don't think anyone would expect Bridgewater to beat the Bills. Realistically their only shot, and not a good one at that, is if Tua plays.

 

From what I saw on one site point spreads would be:

 

Tua -7

Bridgewater -10

Thompson -14

Edited January 9, 2023 by Big Turk

[JerseyBills]

This is how bad Davis has been.. Worse than I thought

 

 

[BillsShredder83]

20 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said:

Miami scored essentially 9 points today, against the Jets, AT HOME.

 

Why are we freaking out about them?

A win is a win, and theyre hard to come by in the NFL!

 

 

 

 

 

 

JK lol looking forward to continuing the in division season ending tradition

[dave mcbride]

2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

This is how bad Davis has been.. Worse than I thought

 

 

He made those plays in his rookie season, including a sensational end zone catch vs Miami. I just think he's had a down year with a case of the yips, but he has shown that he can do it. I wouldn't write his obituary yet. 

[Goin Breakdown]

Dang every throw to Davis is a 50/50 ball. I really think he will turn it around though.

Edited January 9, 2023 by Goin Breakdown

[JerseyBills]

6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

He made those plays in his rookie season, including a sensational end zone catch vs Miami. I just think he's had a down year with a case of the yips, but he has shown that he can do it. I wouldn't write his obituary yet. 

Def not. He's on a cheap rookie deal and even yesterday had that tough clutch catch inside the 5. Had a catch of the year candidate vs Pitt ..Just needs consistency to be a legit #2

Edited January 9, 2023 by JerseyBills

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[faderphreak]

12 hours ago, Preds said:

I'll be on a cruise ship docking in Maui at 8AM with 5 others who will want to see the game.  1 PM ET will mean a 7AM start in Hawaii.  I hope the ship is carrying the game that early, as I doubt bars in Maui will be open for the early game.  I suspect we'll be watching on our phones!

They are in Oahu so I wouldn’t be surprised to find a place in Muai when you dock.  We watched Bills v. Dolphins to see  in Sept.  We got there by 06:30 and there was a line behind us before the doors opened slightly before 07:00.  Ironically, we were chatting with a Philly fan in line who runs one of the private schools and he was telling us that his school played against Tua's and Tua was either really good or really bad even then. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Arkady Renko]

13 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I am going to need some major help. I am going to be at Disney with the family that day. There is no way I can watch it live.
 

I can probably avoid media all day. But any ideas on how best to watch a replay later that night? 

 

(My only thought was subscribing to NFL Gamepass, which I think lets you watch replays after the games are played. Anyone have experience with this?) 

I had this issue back in 2017.  The one year they make the playoffs we are in Disney World.  I don’t think it’s realistic to avoid the news.  I ended up watching on NFL Mobile while in line at rides.  But be aware that cell reception gets overloaded there and you’ll want plenty of battery packs.  I ended up running out of juice before the end of the game.  Watched the recording later. 

[Nextmanup]

Good little article chronicling Miami's pretty severe injury problems after yesterday's game.

 

Tua "in severe doubt" to play; starting RT getting MRI today; may not play; entire OL remains beaten up.

 

Starting RB out with broken thumb.

 

Both the star WRs were beaten up yesterday but finished the game; each is babying an ankle injury.

 

 

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article270503322.html

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, JerseyBills said:

Def not. He's on a cheap rookie deal and even yesterday had that tough clutch catch inside the 5. Had a catch of the year candidate vs Pitt ..Just needs consistency to be a legit #2

Yes. The big issue with him this year is consistency, and I think that's a function of concentration. He may have an ankle issue still, and that could be affecting his toe-tapping ability etc. He was great at that in his rookie season. The dropped bomb yesterday was pretty bad, but I don't think that's necessarily indicative of anything except inconsistency, which has plagued him this year. It's not as if he hasn't made a lot of big plays too. 

[Beck Water]

6 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Dang every throw to Davis is a 50/50 ball. I really think he will turn it around though.

 

FWIW this chap broke down all Davis targets vs NE.  Now, the thing we don’t know when “Josh threw behind him twice…..threw him too far to the sideline once” is, to what extent are those throws the result of Davis not reading the defense the same way as Josh, thus not running the route as Josh expects him to run it?  Or, just not running the route as Josh expects?

 

That is always the unanswered question whenever a WR and the ball don’t wind up in the same place at the same time.  It’s a mistake, but whose?

 

 

Edited January 9, 2023 by Beck Water

[dave mcbride]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

FWIW this chap broke down all Davis targets vs NE.  Now, the thing we don’t know when “Josh threw behind him twice…..threw him too far to the sideline once” is, to what extent are those throws the result of Davis not reading the defense the same way as Josh, thus not running the route as Josh expects him to run it?  Or, just not running the route as Josh expects?

 

That is always the unanswered question whenever a WR and the ball don’t wind up in the same place at the same time.  It’s a mistake, but whose?

 

 

I think the throws were off. Josh was visibly angry at himself after the one he threw behind him in the third quarter. On the one that he threw too far, yes, it wasn't a great throw, but an NFL receiver is trained to toe-tap and he didn't even make an effort, as if he didn't know where he was. Happened in the Bears game too. He's gotta get his head together and concentrate better than he has been doing this season. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by dave mcbride

[Process]

Loving the over 43.5 in this game....if weather is good bills could put up 35+ on their own. 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

FWIW this chap broke down all Davis targets vs NE.  Now, the thing we don’t know when “Josh threw behind him twice…..threw him too far to the sideline once” is, to what extent are those throws the result of Davis not reading the defense the same way as Josh, thus not running the route as Josh expects him to run it?  Or, just not running the route as Josh expects?

 

That is always the unanswered question whenever a WR and the ball don’t wind up in the same place at the same time.  It’s a mistake, but whose?

 

 

 

I think the throw in the 1st quarter that was a little behind him was intentionally thrown that way to prevent a big collision over the middle. That one Davis cleanly got his hands on and looked frustrated with himself that he couldn't come down with it. The one slant pass was clearly uncatchable so I don't fault him for that. But that means you're looking at a drop on a pretty standard catch, another drop on an easy catch in the end zone, and a failure to get even one foot in let alone two on a sideline catch. Not to mention Davis overall just didn't get much separation yesterday. That is a piss poor performance for a playoff offense's #2 WR. Moving forward from here I would prepare to basically use Knox and the RBs as our #2 options. I don't trust Davis anymore.

 

Edited January 9, 2023 by HappyDays

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

FWIW this chap broke down all Davis targets vs NE.  Now, the thing we don’t know when “Josh threw behind him twice…..threw him too far to the sideline once” is, to what extent are those throws the result of Davis not reading the defense the same way as Josh, thus not running the route as Josh expects him to run it?  Or, just not running the route as Josh expects?

 

That is always the unanswered question whenever a WR and the ball don’t wind up in the same place at the same time.  It’s a mistake, but whose?

 

 

Based on Josh’s reaction you can usually tell who’s at fault.  Looked like there were a couple of each in this game.  Also a few of those ‘thrown behind him’ type balls were very catchable.  The overthrow in the end zone looked like josh was being cautious and throwing it away because the linebacker was lurking so I wouldn’t really blame either for that one.  
 

If gabe caught 50/50 balls with a little more regularity I’d have no problem chalking some of it up to certain throws weren’t great.  But he hardly ever comes down with them it seems 

Edited January 9, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[buffaloboyinATL]

46 minutes ago, Heitz said:

It's interesting to me that McDaniel keeps  throwing out "next year" when talking bout Tua.  His quote yesterday after the game was “And I will not think about any game — whether this year or next year — until he’s fully ready. And that will require medical clearance.”

 

IMO, they're being mindful of their language so the fan base doesn't completely freak out when Tua can't go during the playoffs.

 

Obvi we'll see, but that language in no way says to me he's definitely playing as many here seem to think...

 

 

I think he is covering his ass at this point, acting like Tua's health is their priority, even though his previous actions seem to imply otherwise.  

[Beck Water]

10 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Good little article chronicling Miami's pretty severe injury problems after yesterday's game.

 

Tua "in severe doubt" to play; starting RT getting MRI today; may not play; entire OL remains beaten up.

 

Starting RB out with broken thumb.

 

Both the star WRs were beaten up yesterday but finished the game; each is babying an ankle injury.

 

 

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article270503322.html

 

Is the Miami media hooking up the excuse train or something?

 

Sorry, but with our all-pro safety on season ending IR, his replacement who has been playing reasonably in the ICU, our all-pro DE on season ending IR, one of our 3T DTs who was having a good year, looking physically unable to use one arm yesterday, and two of our WR on IR such that we’re playing guys who were sitting at home before we signed them to PS out of retirement…..my heart does not bleed for the poor dolphins.

 

My nose does, but I got a Kleenex for that.

[CNYfan]

Wow, so much trepidation.   

The Bills are tough, they can score also and we have home field.

We can take the Miami football team, andI think we will.

Have to beat everyone,  so no use crying about the match up

[bills6969]

1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

It's not up to the NFL - the decision rests with Miami team doctors and the independent neurological consultant. 

 

Bills at -10 though... Vegas certainly seems to think there's no chance Tua is playing and Vegas is normally right. 

yeah but their independent doc cleared him after that concussion earlier in the season only to suffer another one the following week.   The NFL has its own docs and can veto anything the independent doc says

[Nextmanup]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

Is the Miami media hooking up the excuse train or something?

 

Sorry, but with our all-pro safety on season ending IR, his replacement who has been playing reasonably in the ICU, our all-pro DE on season ending IR, one of our 3T DTs who was having a good year, looking physically unable to use one arm yesterday, and two of our WR on IR such that we’re playing guys who were sitting at home before we signed them to PS out of retirement…..my heart does not bleed for the poor dolphins.

 

My nose does, but I got a Kleenex for that.

It's a local newspaper article chronicling the many injuries on offense.

 

Not sure how that's unusual.

 

 

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

The question is: Are their 3 doctors willing to put their careers on the line for Tua?

 

I'm not sure. Maybe. But it is becomingly increasingly difficult to find doctors that are going to clear him I bet.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

15 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Good little article chronicling Miami's pretty severe injury problems after yesterday's game.

 

Tua "in severe doubt" to play; starting RT getting MRI today; may not play; entire OL remains beaten up.

 

Starting RB out with broken thumb.

 

Both the star WRs were beaten up yesterday but finished the game; each is babying an ankle injury.

 

 

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article270503322.html

I didn't see Tua being in extreme doubt to play. Maybe I missed it?

 

But Mostert out is huge. He was gashing is because of the Cover 2 shell that we realistically will need to play again

[BillsShredder83]

14 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Def not. He's on a cheap rookie deal and even yesterday had that tough clutch catch inside the 5. Had a catch of the year candidate vs Pitt ..Just needs consistency to be a legit #2

"Just" needs consistency. Weve been down this road plenty in 20 years.

 

I still hope he can turn it around, but theres no excuse to not draft WR rd 1 or 2. If gabe figures it out, cool, embarassment of riches. Can never have too many WRs.

 

If we draft a wr day 1 or 2 each year, well keep the stablw full and maybe even end up in a position where we can trade a #1 or #2 receiver, because theyre coming due for 2nd contract, get some nice capital back, while reducing $$ invested in a position thats inflated more tham eben CBs in past off season

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Pretty much...double digit leads in the second half of the Jets and Vikings losses and a lead midway through the 4th in the Fins loss. 

 

The only team that has beaten the Bills this year has been the Bills.

[Mango]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

It is wild to finish with 1.7 less wins than predicted. Under performed on 15-1/15-2 with 13-3. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

13 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I didn't see Tua being in extreme doubt to play. Maybe I missed it?

 

But Mostert out is huge. He was gashing is because of the Cover 2 shell that we realistically will need to play again

Might be able to play some man depending on how banged up tyreek and waddle are.  They did not look healthy yesterday.  Pass rush is usually the best friend of a mediocre secondary and if the dolphins are missing a few offensive linemen they could be in trouble offensively.  With a qb that hasn’t played in weeks  and their two best skill position players banged up behind a patchwork offensive line, I just don’t see how they could outscore us.  
 

We put up points on them last time missing multiple offensive linemen, I don’t think we would’ve punted if morse and bates were healthy 

Edited January 9, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[HappyDays]

 

[Hsker4life]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

To Adam Schefter….duh. 

[HappyDays]

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

As a human, not only as a Bills fan, I hope to hell they don't throw the kid out there now. I do not want to see him get a fourth concussion in 4 months. It's just not worth it, Miami is going nowhere regardless of if he plays.

[Big Blitz]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

Can’t see him missing the game.  
 

Feels like Miami playing games already.   

[BRH]

1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I wanted the Steelers. They are completely inept on offense and would get their doors blown off in the playoffs by anyone of the good teams. They are horrible. It’s not the same thing as playing a team with 2 extremely dangerous WRs that already beat you.

 

I mean, I would have preferred the Steelers but you know people would be coming in here saying "but TJ Watt didn't play and it was Pickett's first start; they're so much more dangerous now and our OL sucks blah blah blah."

[zow2]

I'm usually pretty conservative but this smells like a game where Buffalo should go off.

 

Fins did great by beating Buffalo once already (even though badly outgained) and really played a good game in Orchard Park to the wire.   Now they have Buffalo's full attention for their running game and speed.  As much as the New England game was important and for the 2 seed..The Bills were already in the tournament,,,and had a terrible week.  They still won but really did not play anywhere close to a complete game.  

 

Now the stakes are for real...and this where Allen and Co. left off after 13 seconds in KC.  You get playoff Josh at home...hopefully playoff defense as well.  I'm normally nervous as hell but this game is not getting to me at all.  The 3rd matchup should not be close like the first two. 

[Motorin']

33 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

"Just" needs consistency. Weve been down this road plenty in 20 years.

 

I still hope he can turn it around, but theres no excuse to not draft WR rd 1 or 2. If gabe figures it out, cool, embarassment of riches. Can never have too many WRs.

 

If we draft a wr day 1 or 2 each year, well keep the stablw full and maybe even end up in a position where we can trade a #1 or #2 receiver, because theyre coming due for 2nd contract, get some nice capital back, while reducing $$ invested in a position thats inflated more tham eben CBs in past off season

 

The chasm between his 51% catch rate on his nearly 100 target and a 65% catch rate, which is where he needs to be, is around 1 more catch per game.

 

Just an observation. 

 

[BRH]

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Can’t see him missing the game.  
 

Feels like Miami playing games already.   

 

Lots of "tape that ***** up, it's the playoffs" posts from keyboard warriors.

 

He was becoming a bigger part of their short passing game of late (eight catches vs. NE last week).  Hard to see the Bills respecting that if he plays.

This is gold.

 

 

The reason he's taking longer is that he didn't even GO into protocol for his first concussion.  They called it a "back injury" and ran his ass right back out there.  Now he - and they - are paying the price.