Snowballs - fair game if aimed at Dolphins bench?

[Clark Rotary]

I thought that snowballs aimed at the Dolphins bench were fair game because the Dolphins sat our team in the  roasting sun in the game earlier in the year.  The whole thing has a nice Heat Miser Cold Miser dynamic that seems fair to me.  But I didn't see too much of the quid pro quo aspect mentioned in the media - did I miss it?  Just to be transparent I was reprimanded a few times by  authority types about my snowball throwing in 4th and 5th grade but have been clean for the last 50+ years - I always thought that was about average for growing up in Buffalo. 

[Success]

I was just about to start a "snowballs" thread - but more to just express how friggin' embarrassing that was on national TV.  We're not Philly.

 

I know it was Saturday & fans were drinking, but that was just dopey behavior.  We were lucky to not get a penalty.

 

[LabattBlue]

If you think that throwing snowballs at the Dolphins bench is okay because of what happened in Miami(or any other reason for that matter), you are under the age of 16, or your elevator does not go all the way to the top, which is a polite way of me saying….you are an idiot. 

[Heavy Kevi]

If the fins can keep their absurd home field advantage, anything is fair game.

 

F them. If the NFL has no qualms with heat stroke, then why do they with snowballs?

[BillsFanSD]

Two things can be simultaneously true:

1) Our fans should not throw snow at opposing players.

 

2) Miami has absolutely no standing to complain about this.  None whatsoever.

[Playoffs?]

You mean ‘ice balls,’ as McDaniel and the media called them?  

 

I don’t condone anyone throwing snowballs at someone with intent to injure… but why is it completely ignored that Dolphins fans were also throwing snowballs??  Our players were getting targeted too.. and not by our fans. 
 

I firmly believe that ANY fans in ANY stadium would have been doing the exact same thing throughout the course of the game if the situation presented itself. This is NOT a Buffalo thing.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

More snowballs. Screw em 

[LabattBlue]

3 minutes ago, Success said:

I was just about to start a "snowballs" thread - but more to just express how friggin' embarrassing that was on national TV.  We're not Philly.

 

I know it was Saturday & fans were drinking, but that was just dopey behavior.  We were lucky to not get a penalty.

 

…drinking is not an excuse for bad behavior. 

[Playoffs?]

4 minutes ago, Success said:

I was just about to start a "snowballs" thread - but more to just express how friggin' embarrassing that was on national TV.  We're not Philly.

 

I know it was Saturday & fans were drinking, but that was just dopey behavior.  We were lucky to not get a penalty.

 

Again, not condoning our fans throwing at Dolphins…. But I had friends and family at the game… and confirmed that plenty of snowballs being launched by people wearing teal and orange. 
 

So here’s a question, if a Dolphins fan (wearing neutral colors) threw a snowball from the bleachers, and it hit someone, should the Bills have received a penalty?

[Success]

Just now, Playoffs? said:

Again, not condoning our fans throwing at Dolphins…. But I had friends and family at the game… and confirmed that plenty of snowballs being launched by people wearing teal and orange. 
 

So here’s a question, if a Dolphins fan (wearing neutral colors) threw a snowball from the bleachers, and it hit someone, should the Bills have received a penalty?

 

It's a good question - and I was thinking about that after the refs said they'd give a penalty.  That announcement basically invited Fins fans to give Miami an advantage by throwing snowballs.  I did notice that after the PF against Allen on the sideline, the players got pelted, and the refs didn't follow through on the warning - so maybe they realized that also.

 

[BillsFanSD]

I mean, everybody is focused on Miami making their opponents play with heat stroke, but let's keep in mind that this is the same team that put a concussed player right back on the field when he could barely stand upright.  They don't give a ---- about player safety.  Screw 'em.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

14 minutes ago, Clark Rotary said:

Just to be transparent I was reprimanded a few times by  authority types about my snowball throwing in 4th and 5th grade but have been clean for the last 50+ years...

Miss Pomeroy?  Or Mr. Kryczyk? 🤔

[The Firebaugh Kid]

18 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

If the fins can keep their absurd home field advantage, anything is fair game.

 

F them. If the NFL has no qualms with heat stroke, then why do they with snowballs?

Agreed! 315 gets it ❤️ 

[Bob Jones]

Total, bush league, and a pathetic act to throw snowballs at anytime during the game. Hopefully, anybody who was caught throwing one by stadium staff should have been tossed out immediately.

 

Ironically, after they stopped the game and berated fans for acting like teenagers, it looked like fans were then just throwing them at each other, in the stands. The latter was really more dangerous, as most fans are not wearing helmets in the stands, and taking one to the eye or the side of the head could be very bad.

[In Summary]

21 minutes ago, Success said:

I was just about to start a "snowballs" thread - but more to just express how friggin' embarrassing that was on national TV.  We're not Philly.

 

I know it was Saturday & fans were drinking, but that was just dopey behavior.  We were lucky to not get a penalty.

 

Agree. Makes Buffalo fans look like drunken trash. 

[thenorthremembers]

I was fine with everyone throwing snow into the air to celebrate Touchdowns, it looked great.

 

I thought the people throwing snowballs onto the field and at the Dolphins bench made our fanbase look like immature idiots.

 

Maybe it's just me but I cant  fathom having enough money to waste on a 300 ticket to the game just to be thrown out for not being able to contain myself because there was snow near me.

 

Edited December 18, 2022 by thenorthremembers

[uticaclub]

23 minutes ago, Success said:

I was just about to start a "snowballs" thread - but more to just express how friggin' embarrassing that was on national TV.  We're not Philly.

 

I know it was Saturday & fans were drinking, but that was just dopey behavior.  We were lucky to not get a penalty.

 

I wasnt embarrassed & neither were most of other Bills fans. I recieved from multiple texts from fans of other teams saying how awesome Bills fans are. This was a proud moment for us, dont ruin it.

Edited December 18, 2022 by uticaclub

[Spiderweb]

22 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

You mean ‘ice balls,’ as McDaniel and the media called them?  

 

I don’t condone anyone throwing snowballs at someone with intent to injure… but why is it completely ignored that Dolphins fans were also throwing snowballs??  Our players were getting targeted too.. and not by our fans. 
 

I firmly believe that ANY fans in ANY stadium would have been doing the exact same thing throughout the course of the game if the situation presented itself. This is NOT a Buffalo thing.

I'm sorry, but when I see McDaniel, the last thing that comes to mind for me is "HC". I'm thinking, what ???

Edited December 18, 2022 by Spiderweb

[Ya Digg?]

34 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

You mean ‘ice balls,’ as McDaniel and the media called them?  

 

I don’t condone anyone throwing snowballs at someone with intent to injure… but why is it completely ignored that Dolphins fans were also throwing snowballs??  Our players were getting targeted too.. and not by our fans. 
 

I firmly believe that ANY fans in ANY stadium would have been doing the exact same thing throughout the course of the game if the situation presented itself. This is NOT a Buffalo thing.

Because 95% of the people at the game are Bills fans. You’re right, this is not just a Bills mafia thing, this would definitely happen at any stadium, but it’s still embarrassing. I heard them say on the radio this morning that there were ice balls found on the field and they were also finding beer caps in the snow balls. Don’t know if that’s true as that’s the first I heard it, but it wouldn’t surprise me

Edited December 18, 2022 by Ya Digg?

[KCNC]

Absolutely not.  This is bush league and you have no business trying to injure someone while they are trying to do their job.  Grow up and be better.

[LabattBlue]

1 minute ago, uticaclub said:

I wasnt embarrassed & neither were most of other Bills fans. I recieved from multiple texts from fans of other teams saying how awesome Bills fans. This was a proud moment for us, dont ruin it.

The snowball throwing was a moment to be proud of?   

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

The snowball throwing was a moment to be proud of?   

 

Some people don't really have a lot going on...

[Chicharito]

The snowballs were Busch league. I do think it was embarrassing. I was at the game and after the announcement from the ref stating the bills would receive 15 yard penalty if the snowballs continued. The dolphin fans were the ones throwing them!

[LABILLBACKER]

27 minutes ago, Success said:

I was just about to start a "snowballs" thread - but more to just express how friggin' embarrassing that was on national TV.  We're not Philly.

 

I know it was Saturday & fans were drinking, but that was just dopey behavior.  We were lucky to not get a penalty.

 

At first I thought it was pretty cool and funny. Then I visualized us losing the game late on a 15 yard snowball penalty. I would've liked to see Wilkins take one right inside the mask.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

At first I thought it was pretty cool and funny. Then I visualized us losing the game late on a 15 yard snowball penalty. I would've liked to see Wilkins take one right inside the mask.

Or in the junk 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 minutes ago, In Summary said:

Agree. Makes Buffalo fans look like drunken trash. 

Every snow game for every team this happens. It’s not a good look but the dolphins and nfl look just as bad complaining about it/threatening to penalize the team as the fans look for doing it (dolphins fans were definitely throwing them too) 

 

it was stupid pretty much all around 

 

 

[uticaclub]

4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

The snowball throwing was a moment to be proud of?   

100% 

[boater]

Snowball throwers were a classless act. They embarrassed Buffalo on national TV.

[nedboy7]

I thought fans did a good job after they got lectured. At least that was admirable. 

[TH3]

11 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

Total, bush league, and a pathetic act to throw snowballs at anytime during the game. Hopefully, anybody who was caught throwing one by stadium staff should have been tossed out immediately.

 

Ironically, after they stopped the game and berated fans for acting like teenagers, it looked like fans were then just throwing them at each other, in the stands. The latter was really more dangerous, as most fans are not wearing helmets in the stands, and taking one to the eye or the side of the head could be very bad.

Ok Dad….

[Georgia Bill]

1 minute ago, Ya Digg? said:

Because 95% of the people at the game are Bills fans. You’re right, this is just a Bills mafia thing, this would definitely happen at any stadium, but it’s still embarrassing. I heard them say on the radio this morning that there were ice balls found on the field and they were also finding beer caps in the snow balls. Don’t know if that’s true as that’s the first I heard it, but it wouldn’t surprise me

It was not a good look.  I understand there's a lot of snow in the stands and there are bound to be some snowballs thrown.  But keep them in the stands; don't direct them at the field or worse, at opposing players on the field or on their bench.  I sure would hate to see this behavior in a playoff game - it's a sure way to have viewers get a bad taste in their mouths about Bills fans.   Which is sad because Bills Mafia does so much good and that normally gets positive attention.   

 

Put aside the heat thing in Miami (which was not something Dolphins fans "did" to us) and think about how you'd feel about fans in another city bombarding the Bills as they sat on the bench or tried to make plays on the field.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

36 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

Two things can be simultaneously true:

1) Our fans should not throw snow at opposing players.

 

2) Miami has absolutely no standing to complain about this.  None whatsoever.

 

Agree have no complaints for either side. Understand Bill's fan and team for heat stroke that was hard. I'd defend the Fish if they helped out during game for Bill's (for Bill's playing in heat in Miami). But no defense from me. Only person hope lots of snow balls thrown at is Wilkins. For being a molester. 

28 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

I mean, everybody is focused on Miami making their opponents play with heat stroke, but let's keep in mind that this is the same team that put a concussed player right back on the field when he could barely stand upright.  They don't give a ---- about player safety.  Screw 'em.

 

Agree

Edited December 18, 2022 by Buffalo Bills Fan

[Ya Digg?]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Every snow game for every team this happens. It’s not a good look but the dolphins and nfl look just as bad complaining about it/threatening to penalize the team as the fans look for doing it (dolphins fans were definitely throwing them too) 

 

it was stupid pretty much all around 

 

 

I gotta admit, I actually think the refs handled it really well. Too many people down on the sidelines who could get hit/hurt and they took care of it before it got out of control. I understand people saying it was unnecessary or “stupid” but that’s only because no one got hurt.

[gobills404]

Hopefully the dolphins players all make speedy recoveries from this devastating trauma 🙏

[Breakout Squad]

5 minutes ago, boater said:

Snowball throwers were a classless act. They embarrassed Buffalo on national TV.

That’s a bit of an overreaction. I think people were having fun it just got out of control and they pretty much stopped.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

I liked it, wish it continued. Imagine Tyreek Hill trying to catch a pass and drops it because he gets hit with a snowball at the wrong moment! Miami has their homefield advantage, we have ours. 

 

The fans were amazing all night, hats off to you folks.

[BillsPride12]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Every snow game for every team this happens. It’s not a good look but the dolphins and nfl look just as bad complaining about it/threatening to penalize the team as the fans look for doing it (dolphins fans were definitely throwing them too) 

 

it was stupid pretty much all around 

 

 

Right!  I vividly remember a Patriots game in the early 2000s Brady era(very early part of the run but I can't remember what year specifically) that had the same thing going on.  This is back when the Bills were absolutely pathetic and I remember watching the visual and seeing how cool it looked and being jealous of them at the time.

 

Second point and I'm sure this is going to be an unpopular opinion on here but I think social media etc. is making it sound like everybody that was throwing snow was deliberately trying to hit players with intent to injure but from my perspective being at the game it was much, much more playful and innocent.  The snow was soft not "ice balls" and people were just tossing it around whenever the Bills made a big play(think of it as throwing confetti).  Nobody was really upset or pissed about it in my section people were just kinda laughing and going along with it.  I get maybe from watching on TV it probably looks pretty bad but from being there in the moment it really wasn't a bunch of degenerates out to hurt people.  That's my two cents about the matter.

[uticaclub]

Just now, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

I liked it, wish it continued. Imagine Tyreek Hill trying to catch a pass and drops it because he gets hit with a snowball at the wrong moment! Miami has their homefield advantage, we have ours. 

 

The fans were amazing all night, hats off to you folks.

No difference than an intentional PI when it's that or a TD

[LABILLBACKER]

 

5 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Hopefully the dolphins players all make speedy recoveries from this devastating trauma 🙏

Yes because we all know a soft snowball is so much worse to get hit with than a glass beer bottle.

Edited December 18, 2022 by LABILLBACKER

[Rocbillsfan1]

Lol at being seriously injured by a snowball. And no there weren’t ice balls. There was like 8 inches of snow in everyone’s seat what did you think people were going to do. The people complaining from their homes is hilarious. 

Edited December 18, 2022 by Rocbillsfan1