Snowballs - fair game if aimed at Dolphins bench?

[davefan66]

55 minutes ago, JDubya76 said:

They cut Mike Pereira on the broadcast, and he basically shrugged and said what are you gonna do about it. I’ve never seen a penalty called in that situation. I think they were comfortable issuing the warning and then hoping it would diminish, which it did.

Don’t think they would have called. phins fans also throwing snowballs.

 

Wasn’t there a penalty way back when against a teams fans for being too loud?  Back when they threatened to call penalties for that.  Stupid rule if you ask me. 

Edited December 18, 2022 by davefan66

[BADOLBILZ]

14 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Any team, any sport, any field or court of play; any fan that throws anything onto the field or court, or at the bench or even at another fan is a total idiot and should be banned for life. It’s stupid and unacceptable on every level. Full stop.

 

 

You were nailing it until you tried to play 17 instead of 70 with "Full stop". 

 

[without a drought]

Never saw that in a dome.

 

Just saying, don't get all worked up over it.

[Herc11]

#1 they are snow balls - good lord people, stop being pansies. I loved that McDaniels was crying about them being hit with them. Snowballs arent gonna hurt anyone, except people's feelers.

 

#2 this isnt the only stadium it has and does happen in

 

#3 some of you must not remember or know about the days of batteries being thrown at Bryan Cox - that crap isn't right

 

#4 This is football, not a fancy dinner, a recital, or church. Its supposed to be rowdy, raucous, rabid, and FUN. 

 

 

[Malazan]

5 hours ago, Playoffs? said:

So here’s a question, if a Dolphins fan (wearing neutral colors) threw a snowball from the bleachers, and it hit someone, should the Bills have received a penalty?

 

How many times does this have to be explained? One snowball hitting someone doesn't cause a penalty. It's when there's dozens of people throwing them and interrupting the game. 

[Playoffs?]

11 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

How many times does this have to be explained? One snowball hitting someone doesn't cause a penalty. It's when there's dozens of people throwing them and interrupting the game. 

Why do I feel like I’m being scolded here?  My question was pertaining to how the refs would know which team to assess a penalty to. 

[PauleeeWalnuts]

It’s not the point of injuring someone with a snowball, it’s the point of being a bad look for our fans. Grow up, this isn’t Philly 

Edited December 18, 2022 by PaulieYayo

[TDO'Kearney]

Hate to be the get off my lawn guy but out of thousands of thrown snowballs something is bound to hit a player in the eye, kinda like the freak accident when Jeff Tripplette hit Orlando Brown in the eye with a penalty flag.   Then think of the liability if the league doesn't stop it.  It's fun, but if you don't control it people start trying to outdo one another ("Bet I could hit THAT guy right in the f----in head!   Watch this!") and something bad is bound to happen.

[Not at the table Karlos]

6 hours ago, Playoffs? said:

You mean ‘ice balls,’ as McDaniel and the media called them?  

 

I don’t condone anyone throwing snowballs at someone with intent to injure… but why is it completely ignored that Dolphins fans were also throwing snowballs??  Our players were getting targeted too.. and not by our fans. 
 

I firmly believe that ANY fans in ANY stadium would have been doing the exact same thing throughout the course of the game if the situation presented itself. This is NOT a Buffalo thing.

Any time the refs or PA mentioned the bills getting a penalty if fans threw snowballs the dolphins fans around us would start throwing a bunch 

55 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

How many times does this have to be explained? One snowball hitting someone doesn't cause a penalty. It's when there's dozens of people throwing them and interrupting the game. 

There was one announcement that said if a ref was hit there would be a penalty. 

[Thurman#1]

6 hours ago, Clark Rotary said:

I thought that snowballs aimed at the Dolphins bench were fair game because the Dolphins sat our team in the  roasting sun in the game earlier in the year.  The whole thing has a nice Heat Miser Cold Miser dynamic that seems fair to me.  But I didn't see too much of the quid pro quo aspect mentioned in the media - did I miss it?  Just to be transparent I was reprimanded a few times by  authority types about my snowball throwing in 4th and 5th grade but have been clean for the last 50+ years - I always thought that was about average for growing up in Buffalo. 

 

 

The fans weren't aiming the sun at us.

 

And if the sun hits you in the eye you don't risk serious injury.

 

Uncool. Nobody was trying to hit anyone in the eye, but it could've happened.

 

25 minutes ago, PaulieYayo said:

It’s not the point of injuring someone with a snowball, it’s the point of being a bad look for our fans. Grow up, this isn’t Philly 

 

 

It's both, for me.

[uticaclub]

2 hours ago, JTown said:

When you grow up... maybe you will understand that you are currently an idiot. Obviously birds of a feather in regards to your friends 

 

[BRH]

5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

But thanks to all the douchebags who don't come to games telling us how badly they feel they were represented.  .

This is gold!

[uticaclub]

10 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

It's very simple,really. The "Older Generation", simply hates stupidity.

Everyone has a different definition of “stupidity”. Football is suppose to be fun

[machine gun kelly]

Guys, it’s not like they were putting stones in the snowballs, or pouring water on them to make ice balls.  
 

Sure it’s annoying for the players, but they know next year if we play them I. Buffalo next December, they will know what to expect.  It’s mental warfare.

 

I could care less as it’s not hurting these guys.  Now the batteries that used to be thrown in other stadiums years ago is wrong and can hurt a player and I’m not good with those antics.

 

I also would kid only Dolphins fans with their jerseys, but I wouldn’t throw snowballs or anything else for that matter at them.  That’s wrong.

 

I would only kid with them in a friendly way, but keep it civil.  

[BRH]

5 hours ago, VaMilBill said:

I think this is a classic division amongst the old breed of Bills fans and the younger generation. Older generation hates the Bills Mafia term, breaking tables, throwing snowballs and general debauchery. The old breed is more composed, orderly, etc. younger crowd obviously buys into Smashing tables, fingering bum holes in the stands, doing favors for Kiko Alonso jerseys in hammers lot, etc. 

I am of the old breed and I can tell you that I saw and heard and (possibly) did and said things in my day that could hardly be described as “composed and orderly.”  This behavior is not new or original.  We just grew out of it.  The younger generation will become us sooner than they think. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, Utah John said:

Way back in the mid-70s I was a beer vendor at Rich Stadium.  I'm not sure they still have that job.  I carried a tray of beer around the stands.  Lousy beer, and overpriced at a dollar or so.

 

Anyway, near the end of one season, the Bills sucked, and OJ was still on the team and had a shot at some record.  It was a cold gray day with a lot of snow and not many people in the stands.  The beer market was pretty slow so I was just watching the game.  I was working in the northern side of the stadium, behind the Vikings bench.  Chuck Foreman had a great game and I think he might have edged OJ for the record in question.

 

And so the snowballs started, from the area where I was sitting.  One of them hit Foreman in the eye.  I don't think it caused permanent damage, but it was certainly a dangerous and foolish and embarrassing thing to see.  I can only imagine the fury Bills fans would feel if something like that happened to Josh Allen or Diggs or actually any member of the Bills. 

 

Cut. It. Out.

Let's see you get hit in the eye with an ice ball and say it's just harmless.

I was too young to buy a beer from you but I was there too.  It was awful.  Your description is great. Oh, and I love the Bills Mafia term.  Family nails being Bills fans.  Some guy on FB invited all out of town Mafia to his big tailgate.  Potluck accepted but not mandatory.  Did anyone here go?

 

Edited December 18, 2022 by redtail hawk

[Xwnyer]

7 hours ago, Clark Rotary said:

I thought that snowballs aimed at the Dolphins bench were fair game because the Dolphins sat our team in the  roasting sun in the game earlier in the year.  The whole thing has a nice Heat Miser Cold Miser dynamic that seems fair to me.  But I didn't see too much of the quid pro quo aspect mentioned in the media - did I miss it?  Just to be transparent I was reprimanded a few times by  authority types about my snowball throwing in 4th and 5th grade but have been clean for the last 50+ years - I always thought that was about average for growing up in Buffalo. 

  Throwing snowballs at anyone yields a black eye on Buffalo Fans 

[sonyab1974]

6 hours ago, Breakout Squad said:

So I’m a cold hearted cruel person? Good take. Go Bills. 

No. I'm talking about me. You said I'm soft. I'm saying I rather be that than a cold person.

[JTown]

3 hours ago, Herc11 said:

#1 they are snow balls - good lord people, stop being pansies. I loved that McDaniels was crying about them being hit with them. Snowballs arent gonna hurt anyone, except people's feelers.

 

#2 this isnt the only stadium it has and does happen in

 

#3 some of you must not remember or know about the days of batteries being thrown at Bryan Cox - that crap isn't right

 

#4 This is football, not a fancy dinner, a recital, or church. Its supposed to be rowdy, raucous, rabid, and FUN. 

 

 

If you are sitting near me I guarantee that I will punch you in the face. 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

How many NFL players have been injured by a snowball ?

 

If we're serious about player safety... playing in 120 heat index is significantly more dangerous than having snow balls thrown at you. Korey Stringer died of heat stroke in 2001. 

 

The Bills had 3 (?) different players leave the game at Miami early due to heat related issues. Not to mention countless cramps.

 

Sure, it's not exactly a 1:1 comparison as snowballs are fan behavior whereas heat is just nature. 

 

[Tenhigh]

Sure are a lot of 'snowflakes' posting in this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see what I did there? But for real, maybe the old farts can unclench their bungs about the snowballs and the young idiots can try to do better next time.  And to the guy threatening to punch people in the face:

 

[JTown]

2 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

How many NFL players have been injured by a snowball ?

 

If we're serious about player safety... playing in 120 heat index is significantly more dangerous than having snow balls thrown at you. Korey Stringer died of heat stroke in 2001. 

 

The Bills had 3 (?) different players leave the game at Miami early due to heat related issues. Not to mention countless cramps.

 

Sure, it's not exactly a 1:1 comparison as snowballs are fan behavior whereas heat is just nature. 

 

Looks like you kinda get it.

At least you point out, the reason the behavior is unacceptable.   

 

[Tenhigh]

5 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

Sure are a lot of 'snowflakes' posting in this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see what I did there? But for real, maybe the old farts can unclench their bungs about the snowballs and the young idiots can try to do better next time.  And to the guy threatening to punch people in the face:

 

 

12 minutes ago, JTown said:

If you are sitting near me I guarantee that I will punch you in the face. 

To be clear, I was calling you Francis. 

[JTown]

2 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

Sure are a lot of 'snowflakes' posting in this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see what I did there? But for real, maybe the old farts can unclench their bungs about the snowballs and the young idiots can try to do better next time.  And to the guy threatening to punch people in the face:

 

No,  i will always stand my ground.  I was at a concert recently and a drunk idiot was bothering everyone.   When I tried to reason with the idiot, he swung on me and missed.  I hit him once and knocked him out cold.

When security and medical staff arrived and everyone told them what happened,  security thanked me and everyone enjoyed the rest of the show. 

3 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

 

To be clear, I was calling you Francis. 

IDGAF what you call me from the safety of your computer... moron

[Tenhigh]

1 minute ago, JTown said:

No,  i will always stand my ground.  I was at a concert recently and a drunk idiot was bothering everyone.   When I tried to reason with the idiot, he swung on me and missed.  I hit him once and knocked him out cold.

When security and medical staff arrived and everyone told them what happened,  security thanked me and everyone enjoyed the rest of the show. 

What a badass!  

[In Summary]

9 hours ago, In Summary said:

Agree. Makes Buffalo fans look like drunken trash. 

I might chuckle if Hill or their coach got pegged, but you have to imagine Bills players targeted by tangerines in Miami. The average NFL fan would be unimpressed and Bills's fans would be outraged. 

[Tenhigh]

1 hour ago, JTown said:

No,  i will always stand my ground.  I was at a concert recently and a drunk idiot was bothering everyone.   When I tried to reason with the idiot, he swung on me and missed.  I hit him once and knocked him out cold.

When security and medical staff arrived and everyone told them what happened,  security thanked me and everyone enjoyed the rest of the show. 

IDGAF what you call me from the safety of your computer... moron

Please don't knock me out with one punch.  

[Breakout Squad]

1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

What a badass!  

What a hero. 

[May Day 10]

It would have happened anywhere.  There was a copious amount of snow, perfect for packing snowballs waiting inside the stadium for 70,000 people,many of which were drinking alcohol for several hours.

 

If I had to choose and could press a button to control everyone's mind to have no snowballs, I'd choose that.  But it was what it was and will go down in the lore of big games in that stadium.

 

There is quite a bit of irony that the Dolphins were the opponent.   That game in week 3 could have been a life threatening situation and it's frankly gross they put the opposition through that purposely. 

Especially in the first half, the Dolphins side was getting blasted with snow.   When the players and coaches broke for the half, the contrast between the sides (tons of snow/residual snowball hits on the turf vs a totally clean bills side) was kind of funny.

[ALLEN1QB]

9 hours ago, Success said:

I was just about to start a "snowballs" thread - but more to just express how friggin' embarrassing that was on national TV.  We're not Philly.

 

I know it was Saturday & fans were drinking, but that was just dopey behavior.  We were lucky to not get a penalty.

 

Remind me to never go to a game with you!!! BORING!!!!!

[Putin]

9 hours ago, Bob Jones said:

Total, bush league, and a pathetic act to throw snowballs at anytime during the game. Hopefully, anybody who was caught throwing one by stadium staff should have been tossed out immediately.

 

Ironically, after they stopped the game and berated fans for acting like teenagers, it looked like fans were then just throwing them at each other, in the stands. The latter was really more dangerous, as most fans are not wearing helmets in the stands, and taking one to the eye or the side of the head could be very bad.

If i would have been at the stadium I would have organized an all out snow ball attack on dolphin fans !!! 

[ArtVandalay]

10 hours ago, Success said:

I was just about to start a "snowballs" thread - but more to just express how friggin' embarrassing that was on national TV.  We're not Philly.

 

I know it was Saturday & fans were drinking, but that was just dopey behavior.  We were lucky to not get a penalty.

 

With a fan base famous of drunkenly jumping through tables and throwing dildos on the field... you draw the line at snowballs?

1 hour ago, JTown said:

No,  i will always stand my ground.  I was at a concert recently and a drunk idiot was bothering everyone.   When I tried to reason with the idiot, he swung on me and missed.  I hit him once and knocked him out cold.

When security and medical staff arrived and everyone told them what happened,  security thanked me and everyone enjoyed the rest of the show. 

IDGAF what you call me from the safety of your computer... moron

Thank you for your service

1 hour ago, JTown said:

If you are sitting near me I guarantee that I will punch you in the face. 

Imagine waking around in life punching people in the face for throwing snowballs. 

 

Good lord this man's sphincter is a diamond mine. 

[biLLyBuFFs]

8 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

With a fan base famous of drunkenly jumping through tables and throwing dildos on the field

 

Yeah, Dildos can do some damage though, if hit in the face or head area..  I've heard

[JTown]

2 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

With a fan base famous of drunkenly jumping through tables and throwing dildos on the field... you draw the line at snowballs?

Thank you for your service

When did I condone dildos or table smashing? 

If a drunk moron wants to jump through a table, it causes no one else harm.  I will laugh at his/her stupidity like I did several years ago in Tennessee. 

The ***** throwing didn't bother me either.  

I can't help that there are no shortage of morons.  It's a shame that idiots who claim to be fans, endangered and could have negatively impacted by game by childish activity. 

 

[ArtVandalay]

1 minute ago, JTown said:

When did I condone dildos or table smashing? 

If a drunk moron wants to jump through a table, it causes no one else harm.  I will laugh at his/her stupidity like I did several years ago in Tennessee. 

The ***** throwing didn't bother me either.  

I can't help that there are no shortage of morons.  It's a shame that idiots who claim to be fans, endangered and could have negatively impacted by game by childish activity. 

 

You just did lmao 🤣

 

And that comment wasn't even quoting you... you need a chill pill.

Edited December 19, 2022 by ArtVandalay

[SectionC3]

No.  But it distracted McDaniel.  I don’t know if this made the broadcast, but he was jawing with fans in section 114/115 during the first quarter.  Never seen a HC do something like that during a game.  

[BillsFanNC]

6 hours ago, Utah John said:

Way back in the mid-70s I was a beer vendor at Rich Stadium.  I'm not sure they still have that job.  I carried a tray of beer around the stands.  Lousy beer, and overpriced at a dollar or so.

 

Anyway, near the end of one season, the Bills sucked, and OJ was still on the team and had a shot at some record.  It was a cold gray day with a lot of snow and not many people in the stands.  The beer market was pretty slow so I was just watching the game.  I was working in the northern side of the stadium, behind the Vikings bench.  Chuck Foreman had a great game and I think he might have edged OJ for the record in question.

 

And so the snowballs started, from the area where I was sitting.  One of them hit Foreman in the eye.  I don't think it caused permanent damage, but it was certainly a dangerous and foolish and embarrassing thing to see.  I can only imagine the fury Bills fans would feel if something like that happened to Josh Allen or Diggs or actually any member of the Bills. 

 

Cut. It. Out.

Let's see you get hit in the eye with an ice ball and say it's just harmless.

 

Turns out a 10 year old kid hit Foreman in the eye with the snowball and called Foreman years later to apologize.

 

 

[without a drought]

16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Turns out a 10 year old kid hit Foreman in the eye with the snowball and called Foreman years later to apologize.

 

Too bad JTown wasn't there to punch him in the head.

 

[DrPJax]

10 hours ago, Clark Rotary said:

I thought that snowballs aimed at the Dolphins bench were fair game because the Dolphins sat our team in the  roasting sun in the game earlier in the year.  The whole thing has a nice Heat Miser Cold Miser dynamic that seems fair to me.  But I didn't see too much of the quid pro quo aspect mentioned in the media - did I miss it?  Just to be transparent I was reprimanded a few times by  authority types about my snowball throwing in 4th and 5th grade but have been clean for the last 50+ years - I always thought that was about average for growing up in Buffalo. 

I loved mcds comments when in the presser he was asked if he should have gotten on the PA like Sam Wyche did with his famous “ this isn’t Cleveland “ statement when he coached the Bengals.  Mcd laughed and said with this crowd I’m not sure that may not have just encouraged them !  That was classic.  Mcd was pretty funny post game., esp about flattening Josh’s tires if that end of half pass didn’t result in a Td and josh had better hoped he heard cheers as Josh slid down at the end of the play.  Man if that play went for zip , Josh would have had his butt chewed by Mcd  and rightfully so. Haha!  It’s one of those ,,no, no, no, no,,,,,yeah , great throw !

 

We got fortunate there and had lots of mistakes where we could have lost ( like the fumbles and busted coverages) , so Mcd letting off a little humor about t6e snowballs was pretty funny. He also said he was worried dolphin fans would throw snowballs and we would get penalized and it was good to see the home fans enjoying themselves.  This guy is the perfect coach for Buffalo and I hope he stays a long time! 

[Augie]

6 hours ago, Utah John said:

Way back in the mid-70s I was a beer vendor at Rich Stadium.  I'm not sure they still have that job.  I carried a tray of beer around the stands.  Lousy beer, and overpriced at a dollar or so.

 

Anyway, near the end of one season, the Bills sucked, and OJ was still on the team and had a shot at some record.  It was a cold gray day with a lot of snow and not many people in the stands.  The beer market was pretty slow so I was just watching the game.  I was working in the northern side of the stadium, behind the Vikings bench.  Chuck Foreman had a great game and I think he might have edged OJ for the record in question.

 

And so the snowballs started, from the area where I was sitting.  One of them hit Foreman in the eye.  I don't think it caused permanent damage, but it was certainly a dangerous and foolish and embarrassing thing to see.  I can only imagine the fury Bills fans would feel if something like that happened to Josh Allen or Diggs or actually any member of the Bills. 

 

Cut. It. Out.

Let's see you get hit in the eye with an ice ball and say it's just harmless.

 

I’m quoting this because…..I can! It’s easier than typing it. 😋

 

I wonder is some people are thinking of this as soft, fluffy snow. Snowballs range from cold wet cotton balls to ice hard hammers. Either way, it’s just wrong. 

 

Does anyone else remember a game, I think it was the Giants, where they got pics of people who were throwing snowballs. They tracked them down and took action. Some minor charge and “banned from the stadium.” I wouldn’t mind that.