Week 15: Dolphins at Bills on Saturday Night Football

[Big Turk]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

 

[Steptide]

Seeing predicted amounts of 15 inches makes me a little nervous. Obviously the bills "should" have the advantage, but the Colts snow game went to overtime and they had us beat if it wasn't for a penalty on their 2 point conversion. Dolphins run game is hot garbage, but with that amount of snow, nothing is normal and anything can happen 

Edited December 15, 2022 by Steptide

[Johnnycage46]

Just now, Steptide said:

Seeing predicted amounts of 15 inches makes me a little nervous. Obviously the bills "should" have the advantage, but the Colts snow game went to overtime and they had us beat if it wasn't for a penalty on their 2 point conversion. Dolphins run game is hot garbage, but with that amount of snow, nothing is normal and anything can happen 

 

I totally get the 2017 Colts game comparison but to be honest our current Bills team is light years ahead of that 2017 team.  I think heavy snow accumulation hinders both teams, but I do think the Bills having played in snow/cold/wind and living in this area is a huge factor.  Plus I hate the Dolphins (not sure if that matters to any point I tried to make...but I really, really hate them).

[Chandler#81]

A tisker a tasker a Special Teams demon!

 

[The Wiz]

3 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Seeing predicted amounts of 15 inches makes me a little nervous. Obviously the bills "should" have the advantage, but the Colts snow game went to overtime and they had us beat if it wasn't for a penalty on their 2 point conversion. Dolphins run game is hot garbage, but with that amount of snow, nothing is normal and anything can happen 

That game also featured Nathan Peterman(left the game) and Joe Webb at QB.

[Chandler#81]

 

[hemma]

Fins are #31 DVOA for Special Teams.  Can’t imagine that the cold, winds, slippery footing & snow will improve their performance.

 

Hines is due.

[JohnNord]

Looks like Jeff Wilson is actually playing Sunday.  I was certain he would be able to but was limited in practice today

16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I was certain Wilson would be out…

[rusty shackleford]

Tua is going to be so shell shocked by this weather he is going to make his dazed and confused look after his concussion seem more like he was in the middle of studying for the SATs.

[JohnNord]

4 minutes ago, hemma said:

Fins are #31 DVOA for Special Teams.  Can’t imagine that the cold, winds, slippery footing & snow will improve their performance.

 

Hines is due.

Isn’t their Special Team coach Denny Crossman?

[What a Tuel]

Fish fans on a podcast are literally asking why Buffalo "a cold weather area" even has a team because of the game moved earlier this year and INCHES of snow projected Saturday lmao.

 

They act as if more games aren't moved from Miami due to hurricane. "Why does Miami have a football team if hurricanes are going to get in the way" hurr hurr hurr

[hemma]

7 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Isn’t their Special Team coach Denny Crossman?

Yup.

[TheWeatherMan]

25 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

It didn't just happen randomly, it happened in large part because the Lake Temps were extremely warm for that time of year, which we can expect to see more and more of...which means this likely will become a semi-regular occurrence instead of a once in a 1000 year occurrence.

The observed warmer temps should give way to cooler as we move into the La Niña cycle starting next year.  Cooler temps inhibit LE snow for more reasons than just the instability associated with temperature differential.  With Lake Eerie being super shallow, once it starts to freeze (which hasn’t happened yet this year) it will reduce fetch and obviously cutoff the supply of moisture feeding the LE snow machine.  LE bands coming off Ontario and impacting Buffalo, OP is rare.    Hopefully temps cool soon, and Eerie begins to freeze before playoff football begins.

[muppy]

2 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Hey LeBatard show guy…we’ll get that dome idea looked at as soon as you rip out your stadium and redo the visiting sideline alignment towards the sun…🧐

PREACH!

 

These miami whiners wish they didn't have to play in Orchard Park EVER. I hope our Bills D-line folds Tua like a piece of paper @-@

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

34 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

 

That was incredible. The ditches outside Rich Stadium were filled with water from recent rainfall and the drunks were swimming in them after the game. What a scene. 

[muppy]

3 hours ago, rusty shackleford said:

Crappy weather doesn't move game locations. Only crippling historic storms that cause state of emergency, travel bans, and redirection of first responders will do that.

 

 

stop making so much sense lol

 

rusty you wasting your breath. You are having what my mom used to  call "a battle of wits with an unarmed person" the Jig is UP dude is trolling hermano

[Goin Breakdown]

18 minutes ago, muppy said:

PREACH!

 

These miami whiners wish they didn't have to play in Orchard Park EVER. I hope our Bills D-line folds Tua like a piece of paper @-@

Like a (mike) White piece of paper?

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Who is he and why

 

Draft pundit who was very low on Allen in 2018 and doesn't like being wrong. Think Cian Fahey.

[muppy]

4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Like a (mike) White piece of paper?

if you think Im advocating for an injury That isn't it. Blame Selah for putting White back in the game not the Bills for making a football play

[Goin Breakdown]

1 minute ago, muppy said:

if you think Im advocating for an injury That isn't it. Blame Selah for putting White back in the game not the Bills for making a football play

Ok you've read to much into that. Fold like paper. Mike white, paper is white....nevermind. My bad he's a tough dude. Clean hit

[BuffaloBaumer]

Bring

it

on

 

 

[jkeerie]

29 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Bring

it

on

 

 

Just watched weather on WGRZ.  Models have changed.  Now it looks like things will occillate during the day and then move south earlier.  Looks like heaviest snows will be Hamburg southward.  Likely 6 to 12 inches north of that.

[mannc]

9 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

Just watched weather on WGRZ.  Models have changed.  Now it looks like things will occillate during the day and then move south earlier.  Looks like heaviest snows will be Hamburg southward.  Likely 6 to 12 inches north of that.

You can bet the Dolphins are on the horn to the league, trying to get the game moved to Detroit (Lions are on the road this w/e).  I wonder if moving the game to Sunday is in play, or if that would even help...

[WotAGuy]

3 minutes ago, mannc said:

You can bet the Dolphins are on the horn to the league, trying to get the game moved to Detroit (Lions are on the road this w/e).  I wonder if moving the game to Sunday is in play, or if that would even help...

If they were going to move it, there would have to be a much worse forecast and it’s probably already too late.  If things turn out to be unexpectedly bad Saturday causing travel bans, then they would just move the game to Sunday. But based on the current info, none of that is remotely likely to happen. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

10 minutes ago, mannc said:

You can bet the Dolphins are on the horn to the league, trying to get the game moved to Detroit (Lions are on the road this w/e).  I wonder if moving the game to Sunday is in play, or if that would even help...

let them cry, let them cry, oh wait. let it snow, let it snow, let it snow...

 

 

[jkeerie]

12 minutes ago, mannc said:

You can bet the Dolphins are on the horn to the league, trying to get the game moved to Detroit (Lions are on the road this w/e).  I wonder if moving the game to Sunday is in play, or if that would even help...

There is no need.  In November we had a once in 8 yrs weather event.  This is a typical lake effect snow that happens a couple of times per year.

[mannc]

7 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

If they were going to move it, there would have to be a much worse forecast and it’s probably already too late.  If things turn out to be unexpectedly bad Saturday causing travel bans, then they would just move the game to Sunday. But based on the current info, none of that is remotely likely to happen. 

There's still 48 hours until game time...unfortunately, the precedent for moving the games due to snow has been set, so it's always a possibility.  But I hope you're right.   

[WotAGuy]

6 minutes ago, mannc said:

There's still 48 hours until game time...unfortunately, the precedent for moving the games due to snow has been set, so it's always a possibility.  But I hope you're right.   

48 hours isn’t enough to do everything that needs to be done to move the game. This was shown when they moved the Browns game. 

[CincyBillsFan]

Do you know what the NFL wants - a big TV audience for the game Saturday night.  IMO a snow storm will only add to the number of eye balls watching the game. This weather forecast propels an already big game into the stratosphere by injecting a uniquely interesting twist.  It makes it must see TV for football and sports fans.  The NFL loves that.

 

 

 

 

 

[HugeHeffner11]

On 12/12/2022 at 4:50 PM, Gunsgoodtime said:

On the subject of CB, the one that came to mind was Tre White, and I was curious as to what others thought.  I noticed him getting beat a lot yesterday, looked slower and did not look to be back to his previous version. Defense done a great job either way

Good observation about White. You know your football, you are right on. Tre has lost quite a bit of speed.

When they kept putting off Tre's return I knew something was drastically wrong.  Tre should have been ready to play 4 to 5 weeks ago.  Tre's injury might turn out to be a career ender!  Some knee injuries don't heal all the way and the player loses SPEED!  Of what I have seen so far White has lost a lot of his speed.  He looks a lot slower than before.  Corner is one position you can't afford to lose speed. Unless he has miracle, and the rest of his speed comes back this could be the beginning of the end for White. That's unfortunate because he was great player before the injury. I swear Buffalo is jinxed.

Edited December 16, 2022 by HugeHeffner11

[jkeerie]

4 minutes ago, mannc said:

There's still 48 hours until game time...unfortunately, the precedent for moving the games due to snow has been set, so it's always a possibility.  But I hope you're right.   

Moving the game had nothing to do with the football game.  Getting 77 inches of snow...closing roads, affecting emergency response...literally paralyzing WNY...was why they moved the game.  Think of it as moving a game due to a hurricane.  Just a heavy rainstorm...you wouldn't move the game.

1 minute ago, HugeHeffner11 said:

Good observation about White. You know your football, you are right on Tre has lost quite a bit of speed.

When they kept putting off Tre's return I knew something was drastically wrong.  Tre should have been ready to play 4 to 5 weeks ago.  Tre's injury might turn out to be a career ender!  Some knee injuries don't heal all the way and the player loses SPEED!  Of what I have seen so far White has lost a lot of his speed.  He looks a lot slower than before.  Corner is one position you can't afford to lose speed. Unless he has miracle, and the rest of his speed comes back this could be the beginning of the end for White. That's unfortunate because he was great player before the injury. I swear Buffalo is jinxed.

With the weather conditions on Sunday, I doubt Tre would have wanted to test full speed.  There is still a mental aspect associated with Tre's return.  Give him time.

[FLFan]

14 minutes ago, mannc said:

There's still 48 hours until game time...unfortunately, the precedent for moving the games due to snow has been set, so it's always a possibility.  But I hope you're right.   

There is no precedent or moving games due to a perfectly normal weather event that is actually expected tp be in play when they make the schedule.  This is entirely different from a from a freak occurrence of 7 Feet of snow, accompanying travel restrictions, and severe danger to players, coaches, opposing team, and fans with respect to staging a game.  It seems a pretty clear distinction.  NFL games have been played many times, in Buffalo and elsewhere, with conditions every bit as bad or worse than predicted for Orchard Park Saturday night.

Edited December 16, 2022 by FLFan

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, FLFan said:

There is no precedent or moving games due to a perfectly normal weather event that is actually expected tp be in play when they make the schedule.  This is entirely different from a from a freak occurrence of 7 Feet of snow, accompanying travel restrictions, and severe danger to players, coaches, opposing team, and fans with respect to staging a game.  It seems a pretty clear distinction.  NFL games have been played many times, in Buffalo and elsewhere, with conditions every bit as bad or worse than predicted for Orchard Park Saturday night.

These guys must be new around here 

[klos63]

40 minutes ago, mannc said:

You can bet the Dolphins are on the horn to the league, trying to get the game moved to Detroit (Lions are on the road this w/e).  I wonder if moving the game to Sunday is in play, or if that would even help...

The Dolphins will intentionally fly out late with the intention of getting snowed out of the airport and having to turn around.

[The Wiz]

2 minutes ago, klos63 said:

The Dolphins will intentionally fly out late with the intention of getting snowed out of the airport and having to turn around.

The only thing that will do is delay their arrival time to whatever hotel they are staying in.

 

This isn't "shutdown the airport" snow.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Since1981]

Wth people. if you don’t live in upstate NY? Shut the flip off! Seriously. Shut up. 
 

5-17” is normal stuff. 18”+ okay, a delay. 

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said:

The observed warmer temps should give way to cooler as we move into the La Niña cycle starting next year.  Cooler temps inhibit LE snow for more reasons than just the instability associated with temperature differential.  With Lake Eerie being super shallow, once it starts to freeze (which hasn’t happened yet this year) it will reduce fetch and obviously cutoff the supply of moisture feeding the LE snow machine.  LE bands coming off Ontario and impacting Buffalo, OP is rare.    Hopefully temps cool soon, and Eerie begins to freeze before playoff football begins.

 

Usually Lake Erie freezes by early January which is why Rochester typically ends up catching up and passing us in snowfall by the end of the season(except last year) since Lake Ontario rarely freezes...and also why the Tug Hill Plateau area gets buried all winter...

 

Must suck to live there and deal with not only a metric crap ton of snow but also temps that fairly often get to -20 to -30+ below zero without the wind chill...

 

 

[0017]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

haha! Mike McDaniels and his I wish it were colder shirt!! And turning on the AC, ❄️ it’s in their heads! 

[Dr.Sack]

If I’m McDaniels I take my team to a local McDonalds or cold storage facility and make my team stand in a 20F room for 1 hour per day for 4 straight days. That would at least help thicken the blood.