SBbeliever Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 The games are becoming oh so boring in the middle of the season. Key players on all teams are injured. It seems like good teams just want to survive the 8-12 game scenario. Is this what the NFL wanted? 1 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I don't know but it seems like injuries are on the rise throughout the NFL. Teams literally need 2 bye weeks to have any chance to get injured players back. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 How would fewer players be injured if it were a 16 game season? We're not even 16 weeks in. 3 4 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Warcodered said: How would fewer players be injured if it were a 16 game season? We're not even 16 weeks in. Yeah I dont get it. Agreed on the 2nd Bye week that was mentioned tho. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) NFL seems to be going the way of NBA/MLB, sitting out players more frequently to preserve them for the end season/playoff type run. It does appear mid season lulls are more prominent in the NFL, but, with the bye weeks, naturally, the mid season action is lessened. Edited November 25, 2022 by I am the egg man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Not sure how you can equate current injury rates around the league with the addition of a single game to the end of the season. Injuries come and go randomly. It's a violent sport and football teams excessively preach weight training instead of flexibility training. These guys are all too tight and they pop too easily. But is that all because of 17 games and not 16? Nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 hours ago, SBbeliever said: The games are becoming oh so boring in the middle of the season. Key players on all teams are injured. It seems like good teams just want to survive the 8-12 game scenario. Is this what the NFL wanted? the 3 games yesterday were all 1 score, relatively high scoring games…I guess I’m confused as to what you’re considering boring. It certainly isn’t because the games are blowouts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) Wait, so games are becoming more boring in the middle of the season because of one extra week added onto the end of the season? How does that make any sense? If games were just as "boring" as you put it, which they aren't, I don't see any difference, how would they be less boring in the middle of the season with one less game to end the season? Edited November 25, 2022 by Buffalo03 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Each team should have 2 bye weeks. Longer seasons (marginally) would benefit players with an additional week to heal up in second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Injuries happen. It's just a bad year for us injury wise, not what we had grown accustomed to, so everyone is more focused on it as a whole around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 hours ago, SBbeliever said: The games are becoming oh so boring in the middle of the season. Key players on all teams are injured. It seems like good teams just want to survive the 8-12 game scenario. Is this what the NFL wanted? Well, I've watch the last four Bills game and not sure I could call any of them boring for the fans of these teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, CSBill said: Well, I've watch the last four Bills game and not sure I could call any of them boring for the fans of these teams. Right? This seems like one of those “let’s say something just to say something” threads. Would’ve helped if the OP would have given some examples of this “boring” play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said: the 3 games yesterday were all 1 score, relatively high scoring games…I guess I’m confused as to what you’re considering boring. It certainly isn’t because the games are blowouts. Well in fairness even the announcers were exasperated with the number of injury timeouts. Dallas Giants game was awful to watch between the injuries and penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Well in fairness even the announcers were exasperated with the number of injury timeouts. Dallas Giants game was awful to watch between the injuries and penalties. fair enough - not sure how a spate of injuries and bad officiating in week 12 has anything to do with adding a 17th game though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 6 hours ago, SBbeliever said: The games are becoming oh so boring in the middle of the season. Key players on all teams are injured. It seems like good teams just want to survive the 8-12 game scenario. Is this what the NFL wanted? I’ve found the quality of games to be poor all season. Since the new CBA reduced practice time, and coaches not playing starters much in preseason, it was poor to start the season for a couple weeks but wouldn’t make sense this late in the season. I agree that the average NFL game has been boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: I agree that the average NFL game has been boring. Is it an average game because the teams are boring, or is it a boring game because the teams are average? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 No. I do think 2 preseason games, 18 regular season games and 2 bye weeks is where this is going though. I’d be for it. NFL product is as good as ever, but it does seem injuries are on the rise for most teams… unless we’re just paying more attention with fantasy/popularity of the league etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: No. I do think 2 preseason games, 18 regular season games and 2 bye weeks is where this is going though. I’d be for it. NFL product is as good as ever, but it does seem injuries are on the rise for most teams… unless we’re just paying more attention with fantasy/popularity of the league etc. Unless they move the start of the season into late August, an 18 week season and 2 bye weeks, would push the SB to late February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I wonder if they went to one universal playing surface if injuries would decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: I wonder if they went to one universal playing surface if injuries would decline. …and what miracle surface would that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Unless they move the start of the season into late August, an 18 week season and 2 bye weeks, would push the SB to late February. No reason they couldn’t .. College Football starts a week before the NFL. For much of the league, southern teams/domes, adding a week to the back end would be fine.. but yea.. probably not ideal for BUF, NY, CHI, GB, CLE etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: …and what miracle surface would that be? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, The 9 Isles said: Each team should have 2 bye weeks. Longer seasons (marginally) would benefit players with an additional week to heal up in second half. I propose they introduce The Vontae Davis Rule where one week per season teams only have to play one half Edited November 25, 2022 by RobbRiddick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 16 games with 2 byes (18 weeks for TV purposes) was probably the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 It’s the longer season combined with there being only one bye per conference. The one seed may not be worth going for unless your schedule is weak. The sneak in and get healthy strategy becomes more viable earlier in the season now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 How about eliminating Thursday games unless BOTH teams are coming off a bye week? Thursday is simply not enough time to recover or game plan from the preceding Sunday game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: No. I do think 2 preseason games, 18 regular season games and 2 bye weeks is where this is going though. I’d be for it. NFL product is as good as ever, but it does seem injuries are on the rise for most teams… unless we’re just paying more attention with fantasy/popularity of the league etc. 18 regular season games? How about 16 over 18 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, TH3 said: 18 regular season games? How about 16 over 18 weeks Zero chance the NFL goes back to 16. The end game was always two preseason games and eighteen regular season games. This is just the process in getting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, SCBills said: Zero chance the NFL goes back to 16. The end game was always two preseason games and eighteen regular season games. This is just the process in getting there. That was the thought…until everyone can see 17 is already too much….18 with two byes and 2 preseasons? …what a March Super Bowl ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TH3 said: That was the thought…until everyone can see 17 is already too much….18 with two byes and 2 preseasons? …what a March Super Bowl ? Who is everybody? NFL can simply go with something like grass mandated at all fields in a new deal with owners that incudes 18 games and two bye weeks with a reduced preseason. It’s literally one extra week. Edited November 25, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 The number of games doesn’t equate to anything except cash distribution, (see you at the next contract negotiation). Neither does the kind of turf, quite frankly. Now, with modern training techniques, new bodybuilding supplements, year-round weight training, etc., the professional athlete is exponentially faster, stronger, has more stamina and is much more in-tune with his/her body. This extra speed and strength equate to more types of injuries with more frequency. Since the players are way more concerned with their health and associated earnings potential, the lull during the season should be expected. Slow and steady wins the race. Speaking of races, it reminds me of when I was working during the 80s and 90s in NASCAR. The season got longer as more tracks were added and everybody’s event needed to be 500 laps. In short order, the races became snoozefests as the drivers raced for position in the first 20 laps or so, rode around for 470 laps and raced like their hair was on fire for the last 10 laps. Today, there’s an awful lot of empty seats at NASCAR events. Likewise, if players “coast” through the middle of the season, nursing slight ailments and simply positioning for the playoffs, there will be plenty of empty seats at the games and the broadcasts will end up on TSN, FSN or ESPN2 just like the NASCAR races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, clayboy54 said: The number of games doesn’t equate to anything except cash distribution, (see you at the next contract negotiation). Neither does the kind of turf, quite frankly. Now, with modern training techniques, new bodybuilding supplements, year-round weight training, etc., the professional athlete is exponentially faster, stronger, has more stamina and is much more in-tune with his/her body. This extra speed and strength equate to more types of injuries with more frequency. Since the players are way more concerned with their health and associated earnings potential, the lull during the season should be expected. Slow and steady wins the race. Speaking of races, it reminds me of when I was working during the 80s and 90s in NASCAR. The season got longer as more tracks were added and everybody’s event needed to be 500 laps. In short order, the races became snoozefests as the drivers raced for position in the first 20 laps or so, rode around for 470 laps and raced like their hair was on fire for the last 10 laps. Today, there’s an awful lot of empty seats at NASCAR events. Likewise, if players “coast” through the middle of the season, nursing slight ailments and simply positioning for the playoffs, there will be plenty of empty seats at the games and the broadcasts will end up on TSN, FSN or ESPN2 just like the NASCAR races. Remember when people thought TNF would falter due to market saturation? People will literally pay for Amazon Prime to watch Cleveland vs Jacksonville in Week 9. The revenue generated by adding an extra regular season week, at expense of a preseason week, would far outweigh any worry of a watered down product.. that likely doesn’t come to fruition as the NFL simply keeps growing in popularity. 20+ game regular season with added playoff spots .. sure, I could get behind some worry. Dropping from a 3 week preseason to a 2 week preseason, in order to go to an 18 game regular season, instead of 17 games is not a worry I’d have if I’m an owner. The NFL calendar remains the same, unless they add a second bye week.. in which case you either start in late August or push back the Super Bowl a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, SCBills said: Remember when people thought TNF would falter due to market saturation? People will literally pay for Amazon Prime to watch Cleveland vs Jacksonville in Week 9. The revenue generated by adding an extra regular season week, at expense of a preseason week, would far outweigh any worry of a watered down product.. that likely doesn’t come to fruition as the NFL simply keeps growing in popularity. 20+ game regular season with added playoff spots .. sure, I could get behind some worry. Dropping from a 3 week preseason to a 2 week preseason, in order to go to an 18 game regular season, instead of 17 games is not a worry I’d have if I’m an owner. The NFL calendar remains the same, unless they add a second bye week.. in which case you either start in late August or push back the Super Bowl a week. I totally agree with you on your point alone, but if the players begin getting complacent during the midseason lull, I believe fans will tune out until the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 No. Honestly it’s the CBA. There isn’t enough practice and guys aren’t in the facility enough. I’d be willing to further cut padded/contact practices in half to get these guys back in house May 1 full time. That allows for more player development, better timing between QB/WR, better coverage skills from DB’s, etc. Plus the added benefit of consistent and unified strength, condition, body maintenance, and injury prevention. I am on the players side for most things between the league. But the lack of practice is hurting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 After the past several weeks, I would would welcome a few "boring" Bills games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Well in fairness even the announcers were exasperated with the number of injury timeouts. Dallas Giants game was awful to watch between the injuries and penalties. yeah I largely just watch the commercial free replays on NFL+. much better use of time. you really get a feel for how the game went as well. Live football on TV is painful to sit through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Who is everybody? NFL can simply go with something like grass mandated at all fields in a new deal with owners that incudes 18 games and two bye weeks with a reduced preseason. It’s literally one extra week. ...and how is that going to work in the fixed roof stadiums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjack151 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Players were concerned about playing too many pre-season games and risking injury. Well, it doesn’t seem like its much of a difference in injury rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: …and what miracle surface would that be? Mattress Firm beds. 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 add a second bye week for all teams and subtract a few days from the off-season mandatory stuff, they usually release the players early anyways....this would support rest and recuperating and scheduling of the Thurs nite games which is a challenge under normal Sunday scheduling... Bills doing Thurs and Thurs games this week and next which is supports good prima timeratings, cap increase, nite game excitement, etc... and the grand prize could be the Super Bowl would be pushed-back as week into mid-Feb which would be played on a three-day-holiday weekend as it really has become a national holiday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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