Wawrow hints an Internal Issues with the Bills

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

been asleep during the past several offseasons?

 

going back to 2019, 6/9 first 1-2 round picks have been on defense.

 

 

Will there you go. Rick solid proof.

[boyst]

3 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said:

Love it.

3 weeks ago....

"Man, I love this team"

"This team has a tight bond, and you can really tell by the way they play for eachother"

 

2 losses later....

"Internal issues on the team"

 

Relax people, John Warrow isn't god

he's not wrong. like ever. after having many good conversations with him - he does not BS. he knows the team. he knows the players . and his takes are usually on point.

 

he cannot discuss certain things due to two reasons:

1) he does not want to jeopardize his relationships

2) he works for the AP not the NYT or WAPO so he can't just BS a headline and write his own narrative. he has integrity with what he writes.

 

if wawrow is writing it down than it is so.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

Will there you go. Rick solid proof.

 

lol k

 

we'll see when they draft another CB/S/DL early this offseason.

 

I would have traded two firsts for AJ Brown or DK Metcalf. This offense would be unstoppable.

 

[streetkings01]

We lost 2 straight games and all of a sudden it’s internal issues?lol

 

If we have internal issues then we had them when we were 6-1…….I’d vote more for injuries in the secondary and an inconsistent QB as our main issues right now.

[CountDorkula]

2 minutes ago, boyst said:

he's not wrong. like ever. after having many good conversations with him - he does not BS. he knows the team. he knows the players . and his takes are usually on point.

 

he cannot discuss certain things due to two reasons:

1) he does not want to jeopardize his relationships

2) he works for the AP not the NYT or WAPO so he can't just BS a headline and write his own narrative. he has integrity with what he writes.

 

if wawrow is writing it down than it is so.

Wasn’t it reported that there were issues last year with Dabol and McD. 
 

13 seconds was finger pointing and waving and no accountability. 
 

the Flores lawsuit mentions Dabol wanting out of Buffalo. 
 

something doesn’t pass the sniff test. 

Edited November 14, 2022 by CountDorkula

[BeastMaster]

I would guess philosophical differences between players and coaches on how they should approach each side of the ball

 

But we likely won't find out what it is

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, streetkings01 said:

We lost 2 straight games and all of a sudden it’s internal issues?lol

 

If we have internal issues then we had them when we were 6-1…….I’d vote more for injuries in the secondary and an inconsistent QB as our main issues right now.

Probably did .. but winning is a cure-all. 

[Coach Tuesday]

Ah yes the bi-annual “Wawrow hints…” thread.

[NewEra]

 @john wawrow did @Airseven@FilthyBeastor @Joe Ferguson hack your Twitter?  
 

Poor decision to post that-  post it all or none of it.  

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, boyst said:

he's not wrong. like ever. after having many good conversations with him - he does not BS. he knows the team. he knows the players . and his takes are usually on point.

 

he cannot discuss certain things due to two reasons:

1) he does not want to jeopardize his relationships

2) he works for the AP not the NYT or WAPO so he can't just BS a headline and write his own narrative. he has integrity with what he writes.

 

if wawrow is writing it down than it is so.

 

It's likely much ado about nothing.  Every team has internal strife to some degree.  It's incredibly naive to think that many people are all going to like each other and be best friends. This team is extremely close and will figure it out.

Edited November 14, 2022 by Big Turk

[mrags]

19 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Or... spitballing here... Our line can't block running plays so using Singletary, or anyone, is a waste of down?

Singletary just sucks. But I will say that running him on a draw out of the shotgun is just dumb.

[boyst]

1 minute ago, CountDorkula said:

Wasn’t it reported that there were issues last year with Dabol and McD. 
 

13 seconds was finger pointing and waving and no accountability. 
 

the Flores lawsuit mentions Dabol wanting out of Buffalo. 
 

something doesn’t pass the sniff test. 

there were rumors of that prior to last season in training camp. the direction of the team and the leadership of mcdermott.

 

there were supposedly two directions being formed from what i gathered- McD with Frazier in tow, and Dabol having the offense in his pocket with Dorsey being the man in the middle. reading tea leaves the bills players noticed McD favoring the D while the offense was steered away from him by Dabol. Time will tell who is the better leader between Dabol and McD.

[HOUSE]

This is a diversion away from playing like crap...

I am not buying any of this.

 

[PayDaBill$]

4 minutes ago, boyst said:

there were rumors of that prior to last season in training camp. the direction of the team and the leadership of mcdermott.

 

there were supposedly two directions being formed from what i gathered- McD with Frazier in tow, and Dabol having the offense in his pocket with Dorsey being the man in the middle. reading tea leaves the bills players noticed McD favoring the D while the offense was steered away from him by Dabol. Time will tell who is the better leader between Dabol and McD.

If that’s the case Dabol has a mediocre NYG buying in…while the Bills appear to be in the middle of some lack of cohesion.

Edited November 14, 2022 by PayDaBill$

[extrahammer]

26 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said:

Then he shouldn’t be dropping hints either. Either way, that was a really dumb tweet.

 

I think he has leverage to tweet it the way he did because of the fan sentiment right now. Wawrow has always been a good journalist and I trust his judgement. Who knows, someone high up in the front office could have even given him the green light to tweet it that way. 

[schoolhouserock]

2 minutes ago, extrahammer said:

 

I think he has leverage to tweet it the way he did because of the fan sentiment right now. Wawrow has always been a good journalist and I trust his judgement. Who knows, someone high up in the front office could have even given him the green light to tweet it that way. 

Or… it was 2am and John should have gone to bed instead of continuing to tweet. Nothing good happens after 2…

[extrahammer]

Just now, schoolhouserock said:

Or… it was 2am and John should have gone to bed instead of continuing to tweet. Nothing good happens after 2…

 

Nothing good comes from unsubstantiated rumors and conjuring. Show me where Wawrow has made mistakes like that before and I'll hear you out. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

I'm going to choose to be positive today.  Even though our QB has his head up his culu right now, Buffalo SHOULD be 8-3 come Thanksgiving around 330pm.  "Rejoice"

[nedboy7]

Poyer and Hyde are not replaceable.  

[No_Matter_What]

15 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

lol k

 

we'll see when they draft another CB/S/DL early this offseason.

 

I would have traded two firsts for AJ Brown or DK Metcalf. This offense would be unstoppable.

 

I don't get how can you write something like this after last two weeks.

 

Problem isn't that we need Metcalf or Brown to become unstoppable. This offense already IS unstoppable, unless Josh throws 2 boneheaded RZ interceptions each game. Take one back each game and we are 7-1 right now with half of the defense out each game.

[schoolhouserock]

2 minutes ago, extrahammer said:

 

Nothing good comes from unsubstantiated rumors and conjuring. Show me where Wawrow has made mistakes like that before and I'll hear you out. 

John Wawrow tweeting a “hint” is the very definition of unsubstantiated rumor!

[Never NEVER Give-up]

Failure to execute in many situations by the offense and soooo many injuries on the defense explain the failure to stop opponents recently.

Josh will right the offense and get back to playing within himself (which is a huge area!!).

The defense will improve as key pieces return - Poyer, Edmunds, White, Rousseau and others who are nicked (Milano) return to form.

It's a shame this has to occur, but it will get turned around.

Edited November 14, 2022 by Never NEVER Give-up

[SCBills]

At 6-1, Tre just being activated.  Life is good.   I’m sure there’s some division/issues in the locker room over whatever, but I’d bet that’s the same in most locker rooms. 
 

At 6-3, Tre still not on the field, yet another mid-season swoon, offense ineptness in the 2nd half, end of game continued nonsense/choking, a RD2 pick who can’t get meaningful snaps when all he does is play well, and a trade for Hines… who is our punt returner?

Yea … if there’s issues, this is when they bubble to the forefront. 
 

 

Edited November 14, 2022 by SCBills

[Back2Buff]

It was pretty evident that there was a Daboll vs McDermott feud going on last year.  Now without Daboll, McDermott's Belichick like attitude is all the guys have to be around.  No one wants to be around a guy like McDermott.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, No_Matter_What said:

I don't get how can you write something like this after last two weeks.

 

Problem isn't that we need Metcalf or Brown to become unstoppable. This offense already IS unstoppable, unless Josh throws 2 boneheaded RZ interceptions each game. Take one back each game and we are 7-1 right now with half of the defense out each game.

 

This offense isn't unstoppable. Far from it. But if you had to choose whether to double Metcalf/Brown or Diggs, well, you've got a problem.

[extrahammer]

2 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said:

John Wawrow tweeting a “hint” is the very definition of unsubstantiated rumor!

 

That's not what I asked, show me where he's made an error in judgement in the past in his reporting. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Gene1973 said:

Not with the way Frasier wants to play defense.

Further, there's a problem when you're hitching your defense's wagons to the availability of safeties over 30

 

[Bermuda Triangle]

Why doesn't Wawrow just say what these internal issues are?

[HOUSE]

Some of our players want a dome stadium, downtown with pristine landscaping 

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Further, there's a problem when you're hitching your defense's wagons to the availability of safeties over 30

 

This is what, Frazier’s sixth season here? Long past time to move on from this old fossil.

[Bermuda Triangle]

46 minutes ago, schoolhouserock said:

Then he shouldn’t be dropping hints either. Either way, that was a really dumb tweet.

Typical Wawrow 

[Mr. WEO]

wait, is he hint-reporting some guys are NOT giving 110%??

[boyst]

21 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

It's likely much ado about nothing.  Every team has internal strife to some degree.  It's incredibly naive to think that many people are all going to like each other and be best friends. This team is extremely close and will figure it out.

they aren't though.

 

there was enough smoke and talk prior to this season and last season that some people, including myself, were concerned with how McD runs this team. this team is fragile and soft. this is why i don't want OBJ, i don't trust McD.

[Bermuda Triangle]

Just now, boyst said:

they aren't though.

 

there was enough smoke and talk prior to this season and last season that some people, including myself, were concerned with how McD runs this team. this team is fragile and soft. this is why i don't want OBJ, i don't trust McD.

Examples of this "smoke and talk"?

[SCBills]

7 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

I don't get how can you write something like this after last two weeks.

 

Problem isn't that we need Metcalf or Brown to become unstoppable. This offense already IS unstoppable, unless Josh throws 2 boneheaded RZ interceptions each game. Take one back each game and we are 7-1 right now with half of the defense out each game.

Not sure “unstoppable offense” and scoring 12 points in the 2nd half over the last 3 games really lines up.  
 

You say it’s because Allen forces it or we make mistakes.  Ok, fair enough.. 

 

Why do we force it and make mistakes though?

 

Allen has no jump ball option like many teams do.   There’s no creativity from the OC.  We can’t run the ball in tight spaces.  
 

Sounds like a lot of issues that could affect you when you get into the red zone.   All due to roster building. 

[boyst]

Just now, Bermuda Triangle said:

Examples of this "smoke and talk"?

Poyer being unhappy.

Diggs being unhappy.

behind the scenes with Zach Moss

Araiza

the teams handling of Beasley - when many/most players truly respected and many agreed with him and the team/org didn't back him up was a large issue.

dabol vs. McD

[streetkings01]

15 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

I'm going to choose to be positive today.  Even though our QB has his head up his culu right now, Buffalo SHOULD be 8-3 come Thanksgiving around 330pm.  "Rejoice"

You feel confident in that with the way they’ve been playing the last few weeks?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, boyst said:

Poyer being unhappy.

Diggs being unhappy.

behind the scenes with Zach Moss

Araiza

the teams handling of Beasley - when many/most players truly respected and many agreed with him and the team/org didn't back him up was a large issue.

dabol vs. McD

I've never heard of Diggs being unhappy

 

got a link

 

[CountDorkula]

1 minute ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Examples of this "smoke and talk"?

The Brian Flores lawsuit spells out Daboll wanted out of Buffalo. 
 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/02/01/brian-flores-lawsuit-against-nfl-suggests-brian-daboll-wanted-to-leave-bills-sean-mcdermott-staff/

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

Poyer being unhappy.

Diggs being unhappy.

behind the scenes with Zach Moss

Araiza

the teams handling of Beasley - when many/most players truly respected and many agreed with him and the team/org didn't back him up was a large issue.

dabol vs. McD

When were Poyer and Diggs unhappy? 
 

moss was unhappy because he sucked and didn’t like being benched. 
 

Beasley stinks, evidenced by his “comeback” with the Bucs.