Slippery Rubber Mats Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Are you being serious? Just being sarcastic friend. PetePburghSteelers is the real insider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The fact that sportsbooks still have the game up is more telling than any report or rumor. There is no player in the NFL that would effect a point spread more than Josh Allen. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, DapperCam said: He got a concussion running the ball vs the Pats one year. He got held up in the line and someone came in and smacked him hard right in the helmet. He also injured his should a couple of years ago throwing on the run and landing on it funny. Not running the ball on that one, but not in the pocket either. Josh played the next game, I am talking about injuries where he missed games. All of his injuries where he missed time were related to him throwing the ball, not running. And all but that one came inside the pocket, including all of his NFL injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 As I said earlier I have no reason to think Erik Turner is making things up. At this point we just have to wait and see how severe it is. I'm thinking the Bills put something out to Rappaport to quell some of the rumors floating around... but they don't really know anything for sure yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The throw to Davis likely aggravated whatever ailed him on the prior play. The fact he's being monitored and reevaluated doesn't sound good. Keenum revenge game incoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 So nobody knows a GD thing. Ongoing testing could be anything from playing this Sunday to season ending injury. This whole thread sucks to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Why is Ian Rapport monitoring Josh Allen elbow? I mean, get a life dude 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Why is Ian Rapport monitoring Josh Allen elbow? I mean, get a life dude At least he gets paid to do that. What's our excuse? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Um OK. I'll take it as your intended meaning, and we disagree slightly - his credible medical info comes from watching what happened to the joint, and having years of education about what that motion can stress. But you went further - you analogized a PhD PT with yourself as a tweener self-diagnosing syphilis based on WebMD That's a bogus analogy. Lol, I put a funny laugh face after it as poking fun a bit. But his input is as worthless as anyone else guessing. Credible means he has credible information on Josh Allens actual medical diagnosis. If they haven't spoken to the Bills, Allens doctors, etc...then the tweet is as worthless as any other tweet. There is not a whole lot of things that could be the injury, one doesn't have to be a doctor to predict the few possible injuries a movement like that can make. I don't have a medical degree, but I can tell you with pretty strong accuracy the types of injuries possible when a knee is bent the wrong way or the ankle rolled up. And all of those diagnosis possibilities include it being a non-injury as much as it does a minor one to a serious one. Look at Kupp last week, initial reaction was he was going to be out a while and had at the very least a serious sprain to possible season ending injury. He didn't even have an injury designation by the end of the week and played this week. People were melting down all over twitter about their fantasy football seasons for nothing. So that is where I was coming from. Great he is a doctor (assuming thats even true given its twitter), but means nothing in regards to Josh's actual diagnosis. And this is how rumors start and panic starts...guys like him getting everyone all charged up with literally no actual information to base it on other than a "all things possible" analysis. Its just a pet peeve of mine in this world of baseless claims, misinformation, etc. we live in now. None of that pertains to you, just specifically saying with tweets like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: As I said earlier I have no reason to think Erik Turner is making things up. At this point we just have to wait and see how severe it is. I'm thinking the Bills put something out to Rappaport to quell some of the rumors floating around... but they don't really know anything for sure yet. Being overdramatic and putting out anything in advance, other than "we hear he's undergoing testing/more to come as we find out" is ridiculous. Clickbait or not, alot of fans care alot about the team/Josh's health...no reason to be dramatic, unless certain. As much as I like their reviews/commentary, this type of thing turns me off to their content... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 So….are we good here or? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Seems like these people are doing this for clickbait. If Josh was seriously hurt it would have leaked to the press by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said: Being overdramatic and putting out anything in advance, other than "we hear he's undergoing testing/more to come as we find out" is ridiculous. Clickbait or not, alot of fans care alot about the team/Josh's health...no reason to be dramatic, unless certain. As much as I like their reviews/commentary, this type of thing turns me off to their content... Seems like Cover 1 guys are trying to CYA by drawing attention to hype tweets and downplaying any hopeful conclusions from Ian R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Tim Graham just retweeted this article: At the very least I am preparing for Allen to miss the Vikings game. I am just crossing my fingers the season isn't lost. Screw the #1 seed. Just give us Allen playing in December and deep into January. I can stomach that. That was a fluke. Have you seen Keenam play since then? Im not even talking about his terrible Bills play. Im talking his terrible play everywhere else too. Keenum is not good. Not you man... im talking stupid Tim Graham and the guy that wrote that. Edited November 7, 2022 by Scott7975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, SCBills said: Is that immediate or something that would take time to notice? Because homeboy launched a bomb of epic proportions on a dot the very next play. Adrenalin could mask pain , not a complete tear. He could have a partial injury , play thru it for a throw or two , then later swelling and inflammation increase and the true extent of the injury becomes more apparent. Also with our circadian rhythm production of cortisol from the Adrenal glands , cortisol ( an anti inflammatory steroid hormone) production decreases at night. That’s why fevers , aches and pains always seem to worsen at night, so an injury with swelling can become more symptomatic overnight. So , yes , the symptoms can worsen but the injury damage doesn’t increase unless someone keeps using the injured limb , like walking on a fractured toe instead of a boot for example. You could cause a non displaced fracture to move and displace in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: So….are we good here or? We’re totally screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Bandito said: He has been horrible for the last 3 halves. Not very good at all. He had a bad second half in back to back games, not a bad game and a half. He has 4 TD's in the first halves of both those games. People need to step back a second and breathe. We don't need to over exaggerate things here. We are a missed FG by Bass and a dropped pass by Davis from winning the Jets game and being 2-0 in this "bad stretch". GB and Jets have excellent secondaries, and that allowed them to not blitz much, in fact Jets I think blitzed only twice all game. This gave them extra guys in coverage and Dorsey failed to make the adjustments we needed. Jets especially have an excellent front 7 and brought pressure all day with their front 4, again allowing them to take away the big play from the Bills in the passing game. End of the day...the bigger concern here IMHO is Dorsey. He needs to figure out how to make adjustments because we just watched 2 teams in back to back weeks make halftime adjustments to take his offense out of sync. Guys are not getting open, especially Davis. Dorsey needs to scheme better to give Josh more options. This is what happens when you don't have a threat out of the slot like we did with Cole. McKenzie experiment needs to end, its an utter failure like I said it would be. They specifically said part of the reason they traded for Hines was to use him to return kicks so Shakir would no longer have to even though he has done a good job. Beane said they are asking a lot of him as a rookie to return kicks and learn to play WR at the NFL level and want to free him up to focus on being a WR. This tells me they both recognize the need to get Shakir more involved in the passing game and plan too, and this offense needs that. Now it is up to Dorsey to scheme better and give more outlets to Josh like Knox, Shakir, the RB's, etc. Edited November 7, 2022 by Alphadawg7 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: This tells me they both recognize the need to get Shakir more involved in the passing game and plan too, and this offense needs that. Now it is up to Dorsey to scheme better and give more outlets to Josh like Knox, Shakir, the RB's, etc. They sure have a funny way of showing it by having him ride the pine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Did they mention Josh’s elbow in that thread we had about “The only thing that can stop the Bills is the Bills”? Cos I’m pretty sure the Jets read it and said “Hold my beer”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lets keep in mind, Josh did not get hurt running the ball, and he has never been hurt running the ball. All of his injuries in college and pros came from throwing in the pocket. This is factually untrue. Allen fractured his collarbone running the ball 13 plays into his first start with Wyoming. We have guys posting on this board who were at that game and witnessed it. He was scrambling at the time and lowered his shoulder into the Safety. Later, he suffered a L shoulder injury against the Raiders in week 4; he was scrambling outside the pocket but still behind the LOS and trying to throw. It turned out to be an AC Joint sprain. It appeared to affect his passing ability for the next ~3-4 weeks even though it was his non-throwing shoulder, Hasselbeck had the same injury and explained why Then, he suffered what looked like a potential serious knee injury on a corkscrew tackle by Joey Bosa week 12 against the Chargers, again out of the pocket and trying to run. It was a MCL (medial collateral ligament) sprain, he didn't miss games. Last year, he suffered a foot injury reported as turf toe against the Jags last year, left the stadium in a walking boot, and was limited all week but it seemed to be a non-issue in the following week's game. It was later reported as a "mid foot sprain". Again it was at the end of a scramble. To say Josh has "never been hurt running the ball" or that "all his injuries came from throwing in the pocket" is just not correct. Edit: list of injuries from Banged Up Bills, though he doesn't give context https://bangedupbills.com/2020/09/11/qb-josh-allen-injury-profile/ Edited November 7, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 56 minutes ago, SCBills said: Im assuming they heard, along with Nate and Graham, that they are examining the elbow for further damage and also under the context that he had a UCL injury a few years ago. I’ll try to give benefit of the doubt, as I can see how that’s worrisome, but yea….. the Rap tweet is NOT what I was expecting after all the drama. He is denying all wrong doing on twitter, yet he liked tons of tweets about season ending injuries. I dunno. Just a bad look overall for someone with a following regarding this team. Not professional IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: He had a bad second half in back to back games, not a bad game and a half. He has 4 TD's in the first halves of both those games. People need to step back a second and breathe. We don't need to over exaggerate things here. We are a missed FG by Bass and a dropped pass by Davis from winning the Jets game and being 2-0 in this "bad stretch". GB and Jets have excellent secondaries, and that allowed them to not blitz much, in fact Jets I think blitzed only twice all game. This gave them extra guys in coverage and Dorsey failed to make the adjustments we needed. Jets especially have an excellent front 7 and brought pressure all day with their front 4, again allowing them to take away the big play from the Bills in the passing game. End of the day...the bigger concern here IMHO is Dorsey. He needs to figure out how to make adjustments because we just watched 2 teams in back to back weeks make halftime adjustments to take his offense out of sync. Guys are not getting open, especially Davis. Dorsey needs to scheme better to give Josh more options. This is what happens when you don't have a threat out of the slot like we did with Cole. McKenzie experiment needs to end, its an utter failure like I said it would be. They specifically said part of the reason they traded for Hines was to use him to return kicks so Shakir would no longer have to even though he has done a good job. Beane said they are asking a lot of him as a rookie to return kicks and learn to play WR at the NFL level and want to free him up to focus on being a WR. This tells me they both recognize the need to get Shakir more involved in the passing game and plan too, and this offense needs that. Now it is up to Dorsey to scheme better and give more outlets to Josh like Knox, Shakir, the RB's, etc. Bills also are only getting minimal possessions after the half due to teams being successful running the ball so well. Basically 4 possessions in both games...the D needs to force punts. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Being overdramatic and putting out anything in advance, other than "we hear he's undergoing testing/more to come as we find out" is ridiculous. Clickbait or not, alot of fans care alot about the team/Josh's health...no reason to be dramatic, unless certain. As much as I like their reviews/commentary, this type of thing turns me off to their content... THIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: This is factually untrue. Allen fractured his collarbone running the ball 13 plays into his first start with Wyoming. We have guys posting on this board who were at that game and witnessed it. He was scrambling at the time and lowered his shoulder into the Safety. Later, he suffered a L shoulder injury against the Raiders in week 4; he was scrambling outside the pocket but still behind the LOS and trying to throw. It appeared to affect his passing ability for the next ~3-4 weeks even though it was his non-throwing shoulder, Hasselbeck had the same injury and explained why Then, he suffered what looked like a potential serious knee injury on a corkscrew tackle by Joey Bosa week 12 against the Chargers, again out of the pocket and trying to run. Last year, he suffered a foot injury reported as turf toe against the Jags last year, left the stadium in a walking boot, and was limited all week but it seemed to be a non-issue in the following week's game. Again it was at the end of a scramble. To say Josh has "never been hurt running the ball" or that "all his injuries came from throwing in the pocket" is just not correct. I thought the Wyoming one was on a sack. Other than that, it is true. Allen has not missed a game in the NFL or since that injury you said he was scrambling on in Wyoming from an injury that occured on him running the ball as a runner. Every game he has missed has come on a pass related injury. That is the fact. You literally just tried to add in injury scares to count them as injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: Bills also are only getting minimal possessions after the half due to teams being successful running the ball so well. Basically 4 possessions in both games...the D needs to force punts. which begs the question: when the same problems bedevil this team in three consecutive seasons, what's the cause? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: which begs the question: when the same problems bedevil this team in three consecutive seasons, what's the cause? This year injuries have played the biggest role, IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: That was a fluke. Have you seen Keenam play since then? Im not even talking about his terrible Bills play. Im talking his terrible play everywhere else too. Keenum is not good. For God's sake---Case Keenum is frigging HORRIBLE. If he has to start a game, we will lose. If he has to start a lot of games we will miss the playoffs. The good news is that Josh is NOT injured; he dinged up his arm on a throw. He'll be OK. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: That was a fluke. Have you seen Keenam play since then? Im not even talking about his terrible Bills play. Im talking his terrible play everywhere else too. Keenum is not good. Not you man... im talking stupid Tim Graham and the guy that wrote that. Graham's antics of "WHO'S TO SAY" responses to fans were pathetic. Pegula should revoke his press pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 A little late to the party. What's the update so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Everyone settle down. We will have our answer when McDermott speaks in 10 minutes 🥺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Bills also are only getting minimal possessions after the half due to teams being successful running the ball so well. Basically 4 possessions in both games...the D needs to force punts. Yes. I've said this elsewhere, but some seem to think the D is "doing its job" because they're holding opponents to 20 points or less. But that's not the whole picture. They need to be able to stop these long grinding clock eating drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Being reported as a bruised elbow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Everyone settle down. We will have our answer when McDermott speaks in 10 minutes 🥺 …or we will hear him talking without saying much of anything. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Not so sure I would put the not missing any games in the thread title. Ongoing tests could mean anything at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Everyone settle down. We will have our answer when McDermott speaks in 10 minutes 🥺 When does that guy give you real answers though? He said Tre White was close week 1…he still hasn’t played it’s week 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, HappyDays said: As I said earlier I have no reason to think Erik Turner is making things up. At this point we just have to wait and see how severe it is. I'm thinking the Bills put something out to Rappaport to quell some of the rumors floating around... but they don't really know anything for sure yet. Your initial post was doom and gloom like he knew something. This post indicates he knows nothing other than he is being tested, which everyone knew and he is speculating. Come on man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, HappyDays said: As I said earlier I have no reason to think Erik Turner is making things up. At this point we just have to wait and see how severe it is. I'm thinking the Bills put something out to Rappaport to quell some of the rumors floating around... but they don't really know anything for sure yet. Erik is correct here. It WAS POSSIBLE he could have needed season ending surgery. Erik states tho he had no inside info. Raps report I think means the initial MRI was neg for injury requiring surgery. No need to “ qwell” rumors; that does nothing practical as rumors mean nothing to the Bills. I am thinking Josh is having some type of symptom like numbness or some hand or finger weakness and that would require other possible testing in addition to an mri POSSIBLY I don’t think Raps is posting that if the Bills know Josh has a season ending , surgery requiring injury. That hurts everyone’s credibility. Just my opinion. 😊. I do think he might need further testing. Presser will reveal all. Hope for the best ( tho not needing surgery is actually the best other than a win with no injury and an o line that can pass protect! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Everyone settle down. We will have our answer when McDermott speaks in 10 minutes 🥺 My guess is he has to look at the tape. But seriously, unless the injury is serious (as in done for the season) I don't think we'll learn much from McD. He is usually guarded on that and just says he'll defer to the medical staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, BuffaloBaumer said: Not so sure I would put the not missing any games in the thread title. Ongoing tests could mean anything at this point. It said "not expected", which means if something happens that they don't expect, like him having issues throwing during the week or prior to the game, he could... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Goddam**t. I didn’t plan a weekend of flying into Buffalo and premium tix to watch Keenum play QB. Oh well, We shall see how this unfolds. Go Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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