All your juicy Odell Beckham gossip

[Ya Digg?]

19 hours ago, SCBills said:

Chiefs roster has evolved.  Skyy Moore emerging and they’ve made a bunch of moves to bolster the depth of their skill positions. 
 

Not sure anyone on this team has definitively emerged.. James Cook, hopefully?

 

We've made one move.. Hines. 
 

NFL is a different world lately.  Teams make in-season moves.  Last year the Rams brought in Von.  Chiefs brought in Ingram.  Trend continues into this year.  See, Eagles, Vikings, Chiefs, Bills etc. 

Dude this is QUITE the leap. The guy barely has 200 yards receiving the entire season. Those ZERO touchdowns he has scored has also really helped that team!!

 

This is a pretty terrible job of scare tactics you’re trying here

[JGMcD2]

4 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Dude this is QUITE the leap. The guy barely has 200 yards receiving the entire season. Those ZERO touchdowns he has scored has also really helped that team!!

 

This is a pretty terrible job of scare tactics you’re trying here

He also fumbled a punt return last week agains the Rams and they took him out and put Justin Watson back there to return punts. 

[SCBills]

31 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Dude this is QUITE the leap. The guy barely has 200 yards receiving the entire season. Those ZERO touchdowns he has scored has also really helped that team!!

 

This is a pretty terrible job of scare tactics you’re trying here

He hasn’t been playing until injuries hit the past two games. 
 

5 for 63 and 5 for 36.  
 

Not trying to scare anyone.  Chiefs defense is suspect and their offense revolves around Mahomes & Kelce, but they’ve always been obsessive in adding weapons (and now an OL). 
 

I personally don’t think their starting OL is much better than ours, but they signed Juju, signed MVS, traded for Toney, signed Edwards, drafted Moore. 
 

Do you think the Bills & Chiefs are the same teams that played Week 6?

 

Hopefully they slip up today, but they’ve not lost since they played us.   5-0, to our now 4-2. 
 

Theyve been steady, whereas we went into a swoon and are trying to find ourselves again. 
 

Edited December 4, 2022 by SCBills

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

OBJ going to be a waste of money. We need a guy fully healthy who can play right now through the end of the year. 
 

That said, OBJ has very shrewdly played this very well.

[papazoid]

OBJ has and will continue to be one big distraction....its in his DNA

 

the bills dont like distractions

 

i cant even believe they are talking to him.....gotta be outta respect for von

 

bills might if on a veterans minimum type contract......OBJ wants a deal that leads to $20 mil/yr

 

just dont see a meeting of the minds

 

the bills need immediate help at #2 WR......i doubt he's healthy enough to contribute much this season

 

i say it aint happening

[Donuts and Doritos]

 

 

 

[MAJBobby]

15 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

 

This is likely true.  A chance to maybe make the playoffs but realistically he probably should just wait until next season.  The problem with that is who is going to give him a big multi year contract if nobody knows if he can actually play at an elite level again. It may be unrealistic for people to expect a lot for him this season but in the same token I think its unrealistic for OBJ to expect a team to pay him a big money multi year contract in his current situation.

so a NY giants reporter with a skewed NYG article and report. SHOCKING. SHOCKING I tell you. 

[KHAN]

On NFL Network this morning it was reported that he is NOT working out for any of the teams he's visiting. Not sure how the Bills could pull the trigger on that considering the free agents we will want to try to retain next year, and there's no way to know how much he could impact this year.

[DCofNC]

It’s an interesting situation w OBJ, he should be getting a prove it deal, but he wants a reputation based deal.  Maybe there’s a middle ground, a multi year deal with a guarantee for years past this w 35% of offensive snaps or more played the rest of the season.  If he can’t play the team is out, if he can, they pay him based on expectations of future performance.  All o know, if he can’t play this year, I don’t need him.

[Beck Water]

36 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

 

 

 

Is this just assuming that all 3 teams have made or will make him competitive offers?

I know Rapoport and Schefter get fed a lot of info from agents, but this seems a bit unlikely.

 

10 minutes ago, KHAN said:

On NFL Network this morning it was reported that he is NOT working out for any of the teams he's visiting. Not sure how the Bills could pull the trigger on that considering the free agents we will want to try to retain next year, and there's no way to know how much he could impact this year.

 

How can we sign the guy for this season if he isn't even working out to show he's ready to play? 

 

That would be stupid.

 

14 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

He ain’t signing with the Giants they are no higher then the 3rd best team in that division and with the way Taylor Heinicke is playing probably 4th. That’s from a very logical POV. 

 

That's not even a point I'm debating, so I don't know why you're responding to me.

Edited December 4, 2022 by Beck Water

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Dude this is QUITE the leap. The guy barely has 200 yards receiving the entire season. Those ZERO touchdowns he has scored has also really helped that team!!

 

This is a pretty terrible job of scare tactics you’re trying here

It’s weird because it’s the opposite of the truth lol the chiefs are losing playmakers to injury and really no one new is emerging. It’s been the mahomes/Kelce show 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, papazoid said:

i cant even believe they are talking to him.....gotta be outta respect for von

the bills need immediate help at #2 WR......i doubt he's healthy enough to contribute much this season

 

If he's not even working out for teams, I think you're correct.

 

I think it's due diligence to talk to the guy, but I hope all the PR around this isn't a distraction. 

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

It’s weird because it’s the opposite of the truth lol the chiefs are losing playmakers to injury and really no one new is emerging. It’s been the mahomes/Kelce show 

Let’s hope around 7:30-8 pm we can all come back and say the Chiefs issues are catching up to them. 
 

Until then, they’ve taken a ton of swings to help Mahomes on offense (OL, WR, RB, TE) and are undefeated since we played them. 
 

Unless you believe they’re a paper tiger (we know they’re not), it’s hard to really point to all these flaws when they literally haven’t lost since playing us. 
 

Again… I would love nothing more than to discuss later tonight how they have issues of their own and no longer control their destiny to have Mahomes never play a road playoff game. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

14 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Let’s hope around 7:30-8 pm we can all come back and say the Chiefs issues are catching up to them. 
 

Until then, they’ve taken a ton of swings to help Mahomes on offense (OL, WR, RB, TE) and are undefeated since we played them. 
 

Unless you believe they’re a paper tiger (we know they’re not), it’s hard to really point to all these flaws when they literally haven’t lost since playing us. 
 

Again… I would love nothing more than to discuss later tonight how they have issues of their own and no longer control their destiny to have Mahomes never play a road playoff game. 

I’m not trying to say they aren’t great by any means…it’s all running through Kelce and that’s all they’ve needed is what I meant.  It could definitely be enough to get the 1 seed with their schedule. 
 

if we have to go to arrowhead I can’t say we’ll definitely win but we have the better roster imo. 
 

they got pretty lucky with the timing of running into the rams and titans also so I don’t put a whole lot of stock in the ‘they’re undefeated the last couple months’ talk like other teams don’t have a chance to win.

 

titans would’ve spanked them with tannehill and the rams would’ve had a decent shot at a win with stafford.  Chargers had them on the ropes in the first matchup before that herbert pick six in the end zone and played them tough in the rematch.  This is the most beatable chiefs team we’ve seen the last few years.  It’s not the ‘you won’t beat us at arrowhead’ chiefs anymore 

 

Edited December 4, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[muppy]

WHOA. well from reading the last couple pages my comment is how on earth is he going to be signed anywhere without he passing a physical at the very least. I doubt he would fly into 3 different NFL cities just to be fawned over for past achievements with no vetting of his actual physical abilities as of NOW ..post 2 serious injuries I might add.

 

Someone needs to get the insider tea on just what IS going on with this guy one way or the other. The conjecture reads all over the place.

Edited December 4, 2022 by muppy
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[JGMcD2]

13 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Let’s hope around 7:30-8 pm we can all come back and say the Chiefs issues are catching up to them. 
 

Until then, they’ve taken a ton of swings to help Mahomes on offense (OL, WR, RB, TE) and are undefeated since we played them. 
 

Unless you believe they’re a paper tiger (we know they’re not), it’s hard to really point to all these flaws when they literally haven’t lost since playing us. 
 

Again… I would love nothing more than to discuss later tonight how they have issues of their own and no longer control their destiny to have Mahomes never play a road playoff game. 

They’ve played well since beating us, but it’s not like they’ve been firing in all cylinders. 
 

OT to beat the Malik Willis lead Titans? 3 point win against the Chargers who spit up all over themselves every week? 10 point game in Q4 against the Bryce Perkins lead Rams with Van Jefferson and Tutu Atwell as their leading WR? 

The 49ers game was a nice win, otherwise they’re finding ways to win games, but let’s not act like they’re lighting the world on fire. 

[MasterStrategist]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

He hasn’t been playing until injuries hit the past two games. 
 

5 for 63 and 5 for 36.  
 

Not trying to scare anyone.  Chiefs defense is suspect and their offense revolves around Mahomes & Kelce, but they’ve always been obsessive in adding weapons (and now an OL). 
 

I personally don’t think their starting OL is much better than ours, but they signed Juju, signed MVS, traded for Toney, signed Edwards, drafted Moore. 
 

Do you think the Bills & Chiefs are the same teams that played Week 6?

 

Hopefully they slip up today, but they’ve not lost since they played us.   5-0, to our now 4-2. 
 

Theyve been steady, whereas we went into a swoon and are trying to find ourselves again. 
 

I think both teams continue to evolve, and integrate newer pieces, and the Bills Josh/Dorsey combo will keep improving.

 

I'd not say we went into a "swoon".  Josh got injured/ started to turn over the ball in the redzone, and we continue to have key defensive injuries.  Going to come down to us hopefully getting healthier and Dorsey/Josh working out minor kinks.

 

Your message comes across like the Chiefs have been dominating teams, which is not true.  Could careless about Toney, Edwards....we will hopefully have Tre healthy and getting Von back, if their is a rematch.  

[TOboy]

4 minutes ago, muppy said:

WHOA. well from reading the last couple pages my comment is how on earth is he going to be signed anywhere without he passing a physical at the very last. I doubt he would fly into 3 different NFL cities just to be fawned over for past achievements with no vetting of his actual physical abilities as of NOW ..post 2 serious injuries I might add.

 

Someone needs to get the insider tea on just what IS going on with this guy one way or the other. The conjecture reads all over the place.

Trust in Beane. If you believed all the reports out there he’s getting $20M per season on a multi year deal while not being able to play a snap this season (or even pass a physical). 
 

No chance that is the case. If we sign him, it makes sense for both OBJ and the Bills. 

[Big Turk]

Report out that many believe it's unlikely OBJ is fully healthy and that he likely won't contribute much this year.

[DCofNC]

47 minutes ago, TOboy said:

Trust in Beane. If you believed all the reports out there he’s getting $20M per season on a multi year deal while not being able to play a snap this season (or even pass a physical). 
 

No chance that is the case. If we sign him, it makes sense for both OBJ and the Bills. 

Agreed, I don’t see any way somebody will give him what he wants.  From his perspective, it might be better to not play this year than risk it and not get any guarantees for the future.  I could see him just saying, “multi-year w significant guarantees or I sit until the off season and everyone can bid on me”. It may well be his best decision.  As much as I’d like to have him here, if he can’t contribute this year, I’m not paying him this year.  You just don’t know what’s going to happen between now and next season.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Report out that many believe it's unlikely OBJ is fully healthy and that he likely won't contribute much this year.

Part of me believes that but part of me thinks it’s one of the three teams in the running doing a little gamesmanship lol. I think that info is getting attributed to someone in the giants front office 

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Part of me believes that but part of me thinks it’s one of the three teams in the running doing a little gamesmanship lol. I think that info is getting attributed to someone in the giants front office 

 

No team is going to sign a player without seeing him workout so it's a little bit of a red flag that he isn't doing any workouts on these visits.

[Punch]

 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, muppy said:

WHOA. well from reading the last couple pages my comment is how on earth is he going to be signed anywhere without he passing a physical at the very least. I doubt he would fly into 3 different NFL cities just to be fawned over for past achievements with no vetting of his actual physical abilities as of NOW ..post 2 serious injuries I might add.

 

Someone needs to get the insider tea on just what IS going on with this guy one way or the other. The conjecture reads all over the place.

 

Yeah, we could use someone to “spill the tea”,

 

But Mupp, there’s a difference between a workout and a medical…the teams may be asking to review his medical records and to give him a physical, or to review a physical and test results by a “neutral” physician …. But unless he actually works out it could be hard to see how that will translate into his speed, acceleration, ability to cut, and whether he might actually be  able to contribute to a playoff push or playoffs THIS season.

Edited December 4, 2022 by Beck Water

[Warriorspikes51]

Glazer said all the teams ….“They’re all looking at more long term deals”

Edited December 4, 2022 by Warriorspikes51

[ehfeuh57]

Well with Giants and Cowboys looking quite underwhelming right now and if money is not a major factor, Odell should be favoring the Bills right now (Sunday Night)

[Process]

7 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Glazer said all the teams ….“They’re all looking at more long term deals”

Then hell no

 

I really hope Beane doesn't cave and sign him just because he's buddies with Von and Diggs and they want him on the team

[GolfandBills]

15 minutes ago, Process said:

Then hell no

 

I really hope Beane doesn't cave and sign him just because he's buddies with Von and Diggs and they want him on the team

I’m all for a two year deal.  Gave Davis isn’t the answer opposite Diggs 

[Bad Things]

Boy, I really don't know what to feel about OBJ joining the Bills.

 

On one hand, great!  It's always good to have talented players on the team, especially if they can push us over the top to win a Super Bowl.

 

However, I can already see the spotlight being shined on HIM if we do win it all.  I would hate to see that.  There are a LOT of players and coaches that have worked years to turn this ship around... OBJ isn't one of them.

 

Anyway, my 2 cents.

[Beck Water]

9 hours ago, TOboy said:

Trust in Beane. If you believed all the reports out there he’s getting $20M per season on a multi year deal while not being able to play a snap this season (or even pass a physical). 
 

No chance that is the case. If we sign him, it makes sense for both OBJ and the Bills. 

 

Thank you for a note of sanity.  In Beane We Trust

[Playoffs?]

I would love to have a stud WR opposite Diggs, but I just don’t see it being OBJ.  Yeah he talks a big game, wants another ring, blah blah blah… but at the end of the day, it’s coming down to the money. I just don’t see Beane getting into a bidding war on OBJ. 
 

Fingers crossed, but expectations low.

[Beck Water]

9 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

Boy, I really don't know what to feel about OBJ joining the Bills.

 

On one hand, great!  It's always good to have talented players on the team, especially if they can push us over the top to win a Super Bowl.

 

However, I can already see the spotlight being shined on HIM if we do win it all.  I would hate to see that.  There are a LOT of players and coaches that have worked years to turn this ship around... OBJ isn't one of them.

 

Anyway, my 2 cents.

 

On the one hand, I do feel that Greg Cosell had a point that the Bills don’t have a huge amount of talent on offense, and maybe we need a star to push us over the top. I feel like when the Bills win a Superbowl none of us will really care who the national press spotlights.  The Lombardi cures all.

 

On the other hand, I sort of feel as though while it’s true the Bills have Diggs, and no one else as their stars, we’re kind of parallel to the Bills defense in that without big stars, we kind of formed a whole that was greater than the sum of its parts.  And now we do have a star in Diggs.  And hired guns are always risky.  They can shake things up in a positive way, or in a negative way.  

 

The only thing would be fully negative is if the Bills sign someone and do Tre White Part Deux where a guy is on the roster taking up a slot but not ready to play..  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

I would love to have a stud WR opposite Diggs, but I just don’t see it being OBJ.  Yeah he talks a big game, wants another ring, blah blah blah… but at the end of the day, it’s coming down to the money. I just don’t see Beane getting into a bidding war on OBJ. 
 

Fingers crossed, but expectations low.

It’s gonna be something interesting from a contract standpoint that he ends up getting from someone (don’t know if it’ll be us). He’ll probably be getting paid almost nothing this season even factoring in that it’s prorated. 
 

 

[balln]

PFT - says obj isn’t working out for teams on these visits. 
 

ok dude- get lost . No CHANCE! Let him walk

[ColoradoBills]

12 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

 

 

 

This whole thing is getting to be like a sitcom.

 

 

 

[What a Tuel]

1 hour ago, balln said:

PFT - says obj isn’t working out for teams on these visits. 
 

ok dude- get lost . No CHANCE! Let him walk

 

Yeah thats a big red flag. White wasn't ready til a year. Everyone is different but if he isn't working out for the teams then i don't trust he plays at all this year.

[ToBillsFan]

I’m over this guy. Between him calling out the Rams publicly to being kicked off a plane. He’s not the distraction we need right now and he may not even be trying to play this season.

[Warriorspikes51]

Go play for the Cowboys 

[LabattBlue]

There is a reason he is not working out on his comeback tour.  Hard no. 

[Beck Water]

Only a few tid-bits

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/odell-beckham-jr-to-von-miller-on-trip-to-bills-it-was-a-good-visit/article_8541d2b2-7405-11ed-9d38-9bf9224f2ceb.html

 

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On a Twitch stream, after a number of giveaways to fans, Miller FaceTimed with Beckham, among others.....
The next day, over FaceTime, Miller teed up Beckham by telling him that all the commenters on Twitch hoped he had a good time in Buffalo.  "I had the wings, the lemon pepper was good," Beckham told Miller. "Everything was good, bro. It was a good visit."

The call between Beckham and Miller on Sunday was brief, with Miller saying he didn't want anything, and it "just a random OBJ appreciation moment." But Beckham made it clear he was happy to answer.   "You know, you see Von call, I'm always gonna answer the phone," Beckham said. 
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The pass rusher said in October that he talks to Beckham “probably every week," and the two seem to trade responses on social media frequently, too. It's no surprise that Miller will continue to lobby for his friend, as Beckham closes in on a decision. 

 

but then there's this

 

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The timing of when he could be ready to play is unclear. Beckham has not played since leaving Super Bowl LVI in the second quarter with a knee injury. Beckham tore the same left ACL in October 2020. Per multiple reports, he is not taking part in workouts during his current tour.

 

Opinion piece from TBN new reporter Ryan O'Halloran:

 

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Now comes the real get-it-done challenge during the Bills’ mini-bye: Convincing receiver Odell Beckham Jr. that he is the final piece to the team’s Super Bowl puzzle.
 

Acquire Beckham and the first Lombardi Trophy will be in the franchise’s sights.

 

This is big, football business, the kind of big, football business that could propel the Bills to a new height offensively.

No pressure, Brandon Beane.

 

We all see Tre White, he's only just now getting back into it.  There's real question about how much and when Beckham will be able to contribute, if he's not working out while on these visits.  There's no question the Beckham the Rams had for their playoff push would be a huge add.  A Beckham not up to full go, who has to be kept on the roster and worked into the offense while Beane juggles personnel at other positions on and off the PS, could be a distraction. 

 

O'Halloran ends with this:

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If the Bills are unable to sign Beckham, they still have the goods to win the title.

 

Really?  Which is it?  The Bills NEED Beckham as the final piece of the Superbowl puzzle, OR they have the goods without him?  Because I don't think both can be true.