SCBills Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 This seems like wishcasting by a Giants beat writer, but I do think the multi-year deal is accurate. Whoever he signs with likely means next year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Can someone post a screenshot for those of us that don't use Instagram? It is a "Welcome Odell" menu by Executive Chef Darian Bryan. He is Jamaican chef in Buffalo making waves. Quote He arrived in the states in 2012 and has quickly rose to the spotlight through his pop-up fine dining dinners in surprising and unusual locations, private dinners and meal prep for Buffalo’s favorite NFL players, and his block long lines at his Jamaican pop-up events titled “Jerk Hut”. Menu: First Course: Fried Goat Cheese Salad Second Course: Cajun Seafood Pasta Third Course: Steak Au Poivre with Brandy Cream Sauce, Mashed Potatoes and Vegetables Fourth Course: (Desert by Sweet Pea Bakery😞 Gooey Butter Cake and Red Velvet Cake. 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: This seems like wishcasting by a Giants beat writer, but I do think the multi-year deal is accurate. Whoever he signs with likely means next year as well. A two year deal may be made so the team can spread impact of signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, rayray808 said: If we were completely healthy, Gabe wasnʻt having catch issues, Knox was schemed into our pass attack, Crowder was available, and our staff trusted Shakir - I would 100% agree with this. However, outside of Diggs and Allen scrambling we literally have nothing else outside of splash plays. In my opinion, what we currently have and/or are currently doing on offense is not sustainable for a playoff run - especially if we have to travel to KC again not a huge market but paired up with Mahomes he will be in the mainstream media non stop How so, it the same roster that beat the chiefs in week 6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: This seems like wishcasting by a Giants beat writer, but I do think the multi-year deal is accurate. Whoever he signs with likely means next year as well. Yea just doesn’t make sense to me for him to sign there this year. By the time he is able to play there is only going to be like 3 games left in the season. Makes more sense to sign with a real contender like Bills or cowboys for the rest of the year, go for ring #2, and then if he really wants to be a Giant long term bc of nostalgia, sign then. The money likely won’t be more by signing now rather than 2022 Free Agency 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 44 minutes ago, realtruelove said: If he's not healthy right now he won't have much leverage. He’ll have as much leverage as his agent wants. It’s up to the teams to call his bluff or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, gordong said: How so, it the same roster that beat the chiefs in week 6? Chiefs roster has evolved. Skyy Moore emerging and they’ve made a bunch of moves to bolster the depth of their skill positions. Not sure anyone on this team has definitively emerged.. James Cook, hopefully? We've made one move.. Hines. NFL is a different world lately. Teams make in-season moves. Last year the Rams brought in Von. Chiefs brought in Ingram. Trend continues into this year. See, Eagles, Vikings, Chiefs, Bills etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: Chiefs roster has evolved. Skyy Moore emerging and they’ve made a bunch of moves to bolster the depth of their skill positions. Not sure anyone on this team has definitively emerged.. James Cook, hopefully? We've made one move.. Hines. NFL is a different world lately. Teams make in-season moves. Last year the Rams brought in Von. Chiefs brought in Ingram. Trend continues into this year. See, Eagles, Vikings, Chiefs, Bills etc. chiefs also have the worst red zone D in the league. I’ll be interested also to see if they can get pressure on burrow tomorrow because if not they will be trouble. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: chiefs also have the worst red zone D in the league. I’ll be interested also to see if they can get pressure on burrow tomorrow because if not they will be trouble. Chiefs Defense is sus if they can’t get pressure with Jones and co., so I’d agree. They’ve been flirting with an L for a minute now … hopefully the Bengals finally hand them one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, rayray808 said: If we were completely healthy, Gabe wasnʻt having catch issues, Knox was schemed into our pass attack, Crowder was available, and our staff trusted Shakir - I would 100% agree with this. However, outside of Diggs and Allen scrambling we literally have nothing else outside of splash plays. In my opinion, what we currently have and/or are currently doing on offense is not sustainable for a playoff run - especially if we have to travel to KC again not a huge market but paired up with Mahomes he will be in the mainstream media non stop You know the same thing will happen with Josh in Buffalo right? Also the Chiefs have absolutely no money to sign him-I think it’s actually a really poor fit in KC for him, outside of playing with Mahomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: This. Show me an NFL player whose agent isn't always focused on getting them a long-term deal, and I'll show you an NFL player who needs a new agent. And that could be true from OBJ's thinking. But the other side of the coin is, with a 2nd ACL in the same knee, he has a renewed need to show he's back. The thing is, OBJ only needs one team to agree with him, and I'd bet on Jerry for that. Agreed. If this was pre draft and we had a top 10 prospect at WR coming out who just tore his knee for the second time in 5 years what would we want with him? **I'm not saying he is a top 10 WR. I am saying that in this argument you must say he would be a top 10 college prospect for his draft class. He would be a 3rd or 4th round if he just tore it 9 months ago and not been tested yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 The longer this goes/less likely it is he plays this year, the less interested I am in him. Don't want him for next year, we are much better off drafting a guy early who will be younger/cheaper/have more potential. If the guy isn't ready to play this year, which is very reasonable given the injuries, than time to move on and worry about WR in the off-season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Process said: The longer this goes/less likely it is he plays this year, the less interested I am in him. Don't want him for next year, we are much better off drafting a guy early who will be younger/cheaper/have more potential. If the guy isn't ready to play this year, which is very reasonable given the injuries, than time to move on and worry about WR in the off-season. Have been thinking this forever. I see no way he can contribute this year and all in all think his career as anything more than WR3 is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Top Reasons OBJ will sign in Buffalo 🦬🦬Von is in Buff 🦬Top 3 Team 🦬many prime time games 🦬JA17 is a ***** Savage 🦬overall team & family culture 🦬they will give him a 3 year deal 🦬playing with Diggs will get him more touches. He’ll be singled with the #2 CB vs. man 🦬BILLS MAFIA 🦬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Even an OBJ who has lost a little step is a massive upgrade at #2/3 over Crowder/McKenzie/Shakir(at this stage of his career)/Kumerow. He feels like a James Lofton type signing to me. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Process said: The longer this goes/less likely it is he plays this year, the less interested I am in him. Don't want him for next year, we are much better off drafting a guy early who will be younger/cheaper/have more potential. If the guy isn't ready to play this year, which is very reasonable given the injuries, than time to move on and worry about WR in the off-season. Oh, My! Let's look at that one in full: Odell Beckham WR, Unsigned Free Agent FOX Sports' Ralph Vacchiano reports there is "considerable doubt" free agent Odell Beckham (knee) can return to play this year. Beckham, who tore his ACL twice in a 16-month span, expects to be fully cleared later this month. Returning this late in the season, there are questions over how healthy Beckham is and whether he can contribute down the stretch. Beckham informed teams he's seeking a multi-year contract that he "hopes ends up being worth $20 million per year." That would put Beckham out of the Giants' price range. Beckham is expected to visit with Buffalo this weekend but the Cowboys remain the favorites for Beckham if the 30-year-old returns this season. If Beckham, having re-injured the same ACL 2x in 2 years, wants a multi-year $20M contract, he can want it somewhere else. Don't Do It, Beane. We have GOT to get more help out of our draft picks and lower price FA Edit: my browser didn't update the link correctly, this is the link I pulled that from: Edited December 3, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Beckham informed teams he's seeking a multi-year contract that he "hopes ends up being worth $20 million per year." Don't Do It, Beane. We have GOT to get more help out of our draft picks and lower price FA Zero point zero percent chance that Beane would sign him for anything close to that. I wouldn't worry. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Oh, My! Let's look at that one in full: Odell Beckham WR, Unsigned Free Agent FOX Sports' Ralph Vacchiano reports there is "considerable doubt" free agent Odell Beckham (knee) can return to play this year. Beckham, who tore his ACL twice in a 16-month span, expects to be fully cleared later this month. Returning this late in the season, there are questions over how healthy Beckham is and whether he can contribute down the stretch. Beckham informed teams he's seeking a multi-year contract that he "hopes ends up being worth $20 million per year." That would put Beckham out of the Giants' price range. Beckham is expected to visit with Buffalo this weekend but the Cowboys remain the favorites for Beckham if the 30-year-old returns this season. If Beckham, having re-injured the same ACL 2x in 2 years, wants a multi-year $20M contract, he can want it somewhere else. Don't Do It, Beane. We have GOT to get more help out of our draft picks and lower price FA Lol! Did this just come out? He’s wasting his time and Beanes time coming to Buffalo if he’s looking for that payday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Only team that might sign him to 20M per is the Cowboys, and their fans would riot given Jerry Jones basically traded away a healthy Cooper making the same money because he wouldn’t get vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: This seems like wishcasting by a Giants beat writer, but I do think the multi-year deal is accurate. Whoever he signs with likely means next year as well. Rest of what Raanan said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Only team that might sign him to 20M per is the Cowboys, and their fans would riot given Jerry Jones basically traded away a healthy Cooper making the same money because he wouldn’t get vaccinated. Don't leave out the Raiders in making stupid decisions. Though they don't have the money in this case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Only team that might sign him to 20M per is the Cowboys, and their fans would riot given Jerry Jones basically traded away a healthy Cooper making the same money because he wouldn’t get vaccinated. Cowboys fans wouldn’t riot, they’re like their owner-they want all flash they don’t care about substance. They will think signing OBJ will make the cowboys go undefeated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 $20M/year, wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: $20M/year, wow. This has all been out there. Multi-year deal, hopeful to get 20M per year. There were reports about OBJ looking for that when the time came months ago before he was ever even cleared. Either we’ll all be shocked and someone gives him that or that’s simply numbers put out by Odell’s agent. I can’t imagine we’d be hosting him at that price point. And I can’t imagine we’re so far off that it wouldn’t make any sense to bring him in. I do think he’s getting a 2-3 year deal. I’d be shocked if it’s 20M per, with this year being pro-rated of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 OBJ will not get that $$ from any team. He’s had 2 knee injuries and isn’t 26 anymore. If he does sign this season , he’s not getting that kind of cheddar. He’s hoping, but he’ll ultimately sign for a lot less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: $20M/year, wow. Not surprising if that’s what he really wants. What he gets, is a different thing. If really 20, not sure how Buffalo could swing that. The question for the Bills right now? Is he healthy and can he contribute? If so, dollars for a 1 year end of season contract should be doable. Probably not a multi-year contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: $20M/year, wow. Got to start negotiations with a high #. But reading this article, I see where it may come from. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-treating-odell-beckham-jr-fairly-on-a-long-term-deal-as-he-prepares-for-nfl-return/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: It is a "Welcome Odell" menu by Executive Chef Darian Bryan. He is Jamaican chef in Buffalo making waves. Menu: First Course: Fried Goat Cheese Salad Second Course: Cajun Seafood Pasta Third Course: Steak Au Poivre with Brandy Cream Sauce, Mashed Potatoes and Vegetables Fourth Course: (Desert by Sweet Pea Bakery😞 Gooey Butter Cake and Red Velvet Cake. I believe both Stefon Diggs and Gabe Davis have this guy cook for them. Apparently he has a gift for preparing super-tasty food that meets the nutritional and caloric needs of the WRs. IMMA guess a normal WR dinner during the season does not include two kinds of cake tho Edited December 3, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Per this he isn't running or working out for teams to show he's ready to go. Wonder if that complicates things. https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-new-odell-beckham-jr-visit-problem-obj-fly-workout-giants-bills-rumor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Per this he isn't running or working out for teams to show he's ready to go. Wonder if that complicates things. https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-new-odell-beckham-jr-visit-problem-obj-fly-workout-giants-bills-rumor Wasting everyone’s time 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Screw it, make beasley an offer 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Steptide said: Screw it, make beasley an offer I’d love it if Beane’s philosophy is we got a couple million freed up to spend on a WR for this year’s playoff push alone. If you don’t want it OBJ, that’s fine, we have other options to spend that money on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I wonder if there’s any chance Brandin cooks would be released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: Oh, My! Let's look at that one in full: Odell Beckham WR, Unsigned Free Agent FOX Sports' Ralph Vacchiano reports there is "considerable doubt" free agent Odell Beckham (knee) can return to play this year. Beckham, who tore his ACL twice in a 16-month span, expects to be fully cleared later this month. Returning this late in the season, there are questions over how healthy Beckham is and whether he can contribute down the stretch. Beckham informed teams he's seeking a multi-year contract that he "hopes ends up being worth $20 million per year." That would put Beckham out of the Giants' price range. Beckham is expected to visit with Buffalo this weekend but the Cowboys remain the favorites for Beckham if the 30-year-old returns this season. If Beckham, having re-injured the same ACL 2x in 2 years, wants a multi-year $20M contract, he can want it somewhere else. Don't Do It, Beane. We have GOT to get more help out of our draft picks and lower price FA Edit: my browser didn't update the link correctly, this is the link I pulled that from: Beane will never sign a deal like that. No worries. 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: OBJ will not get that $$ from any team. He’s had 2 knee injuries and isn’t 26 anymore. If he does sign this season , he’s not getting that kind of cheddar. He’s hoping, but he’ll ultimately sign for a lot less. Bingo! 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I wonder if there’s any chance Brandin cooks would be released? I like this thought process. Cooks would ba a nice addition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I wonder if there’s any chance Brandin cooks would be released? What about Emmanuel Sanders? He should be fresh. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, davefan66 said: What about Emmanuel Sanders? He should be fresh. Fresh but not in shape. He’s an analyst on NFLN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mr Info said: Fresh but not in shape. He’s an analyst on NFLN. Wasn’t serious. Kinda surprised to not hear his name TBH. Honestly felt he took field time from Davis last year and wasn’t a dominant player by any means. Didn’t know he was on NFLN. Edited December 3, 2022 by davefan66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 “Up to 20M per year” so an incentive rich contract with lower cap hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Gotta love OBJ's process. Take a week of wining and dining by NFL frachises as they roll out the good steaks and sushi. Then put an outrageous amount of money on the ask line. When all is said and done, he maybe, and I do mean maybe, gets into 3 games before the playoffs. Two more likely. All the while no one knows if he can even run or is in game shape. OBJ doing his utmost to remind folks that there is not a bigger diva position in all of sports than WR. Hey look at me.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I would love it if the Bills added OBJ, but all of this talk and hype has kind of moved me to the "I just don't care that much any more" phase. If they get him, he'll help the offense. If they don't, they'll have more money to re-sign guys like Edmunds, Oliver, and Poyer. At the end of the day, OBJ just doesn't seem like the type of guy to turn down the bright lights of NYC or Dallas for Orchard Park, NY. If we get him, great. If not, I'll shrug and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, wjag said: Gotta love OBJ's process. Take a week of wining and dining by NFL frachises as they roll out the good steaks and sushi. Then put an outrageous amount of money on the ask line. When all is said and done, he maybe, and I do mean maybe, gets into 3 games before the playoffs. Two more likely. All the while no one knows if he can even run or is in game shape. OBJ doing his utmost to remind folks that there is not a bigger diva position in all of sports than WR. Hey look at me.. I wouldn't be surprised if when all is said and done he doesn't sign anywhere until after the season. What incentive does a team have to sign him now if there are serious question as to whether he can play this year? Especially if he is looking for a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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