All your juicy Odell Beckham gossip

[Warriorspikes51]

I'm thinking he was planning on coming here for months.... until Jerry Jones publicly expressed interest. 

[Riverboat Ritchie]

He would have been nice but more hype about it, the more I am fine with him going elsewhere. Honestly, in his position, I would head to Dallas for long term money. Bills can’t overpay but Looney Jerry can and will. 

[Draconator]

I would like to see the Bills sign him, if for no other reason than to see Jerry Jones cry some more in public. 

[Shemp]

OBJ won't even work out for the Bills, Giants and Cowboys. Is he able to play at a high level and can Josh form an instant chemistry with him? I say no. He's a good receiver but too much risk.

[Beck Water]

34 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

What did he stoop for in LA last year?

 

 

 

He got $1.75M counting his $0.5M  signing bonus, but it's not clear to me if that was normalized to a year, or if he got that for the 8 games he was with the Rams.

 

41 minutes ago, Draconator said:

I would like to see the Bills sign him, if for no other reason than to see Jerry Jones cry some more in public. 

 

Much as I would enjoy the sweet, sweet sight of Jerry Jones tears, I can't see driving a multi-year cap decision with the desire for them.

[HappyDays]

 

This doesn't exactly make it sound like the Cowboys are front runners.

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, foreboding said:

Yeah, but not at a fair comparison, % of drops would be they to look at it. Diggs has a multiple more passes thrown his way than probably almost any other reciever I'm the league.

 

Depends upon the point trying to be made.  If we're asking "how likely is it that the guy will drop a catchable ball?", % is the correct way.

 

If you're responding to someone who's claiming we couldn't find 14 drops or bad plays to make a "lowlight reel" for Diggs, pointing out that they have the same number of scored drops is relevant.  Drop stats are usually pretty conservative and differ between the outfits putting them out, so it's a pretty good guess that if there are 7 scored drops, there are as many again "catchable" balls that weren't scored as drops, especially out of a much higher number of targets.

 

Again, not at all trying to rag on Diggs who is legit one of the top receivers in the league, but to point out that every receiver has bad plays, and a player's "bad play clips" aren't a fair picture at all.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Beck Water

[Beck Water]

6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

This doesn't exactly make it sound like the Cowboys are front runners.

 

This doesn't exactly make it sound as though OBJ is healthy enough to contribute.

[BillyBilliams]

Whether he comes here or not, I'm kind of tired of the saga to be honest.  Pick a damn team to play with and get on the practice field.  It's getting extremely annoying.

[Tenhigh]

4 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

The Bills blew it, by not taking OBJ, on a tour of Wegman's.. 😇

They should have gotten him drunk and allowed him to fly out of town without wearing a seatbelt.  It's the little things in life....

[napmaster]

6 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

The Bills blew it, by not taking OBJ, on a tour of Wegman's.. 😇

 

Not sure taking any free agent to a Buffalo supermarket is a good idea.

[Mr. WEO]

25 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

He got $1.75M counting his $0.5M  signing bonus, but it's not clear to me if that was normalized to a year, or if he got that for the 8 games he was with the Rams.

 

 

Much as I would enjoy the sweet, sweet sight of Jerry Jones tears, I can't see driving a multi-year cap decision with the desire for them.

 

So why would he expect anyone pay him pro-rated 20 million for the rest of the year when everyone knows he took far less last year?

 

My guess is that he knows he isn't ready to play and he is making this completely nuts salary ask so he can say that no team offered what he's worth, so he will sit out the season....hoping to be ready and in shape with another off season of rehab. 

 

It really doesn't make sense for him to credibly put out there the 20 million figure when, healthy, he worked for peanuts half a season with the Rams.

[Mooshocker12]

21 minutes ago, napmaster said:

 

Not sure taking any free agent to a Buffalo supermarket is a good idea.

You are an insensitive buffoon! To even levy this statement in a joking manner indicates how shallow, cold hearted and immature you are. 

[Bills!Win!]

30 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

Whether he comes here or not, I'm kind of tired of the saga to be honest.  Pick a damn team to play with and get on the practice field.  It's getting extremely annoying.

Reading new comments here is also getting old. I’m just waiting for someone to share a twitter story that he signed. Kind of tired of it too 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Bills!Win!

[Bangarang]

So much attention for a guy who’s not a great WR anymore. Just pick a team and go to work.

[SCBills]

Just now, Bills!Win! said:

Reading new comments here is also getting old. I’m just waiting for someone to share a twitter story that he signed. Kind of tired of it too 

 

Apparently Jerry Jones made a comment a few minutes ago that he's not confident at all about signing OBJ without a workout. 

[Billsatlastin2018]

The Bills blew it, by not taking OBJ, on a tour of Wegman's.. 😇😂

Front row, court side for an NBA game?

Tour of the Salad Bar at Weggie’s?

 

Tough call.

[NoSaint]

39 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

Whether he comes here or not, I'm kind of tired of the saga to be honest.  Pick a damn team to play with and get on the practice field.  It's getting extremely annoying.

I mean, he waited until healthy and is going through a 3-4 day process once it actually started? 

 

just have to hang on the headlines a bit less if they upset you 

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Apparently Jerry Jones made a comment a few minutes ago that he's not confident at all about signing OBJ without a workout. 

which is fair. 
 

medical work up and a light workout is a reasonable minimum standard even if he’s not clear for everything yet 

[Spiderweb]

Time to let this die. Just say no to the Drama Queen OBJ. No workout? 20 Mil? Absolutely no way.

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

I mean, he waited until healthy and is going through a 3-4 day process once it actually started? 

 

just have to hang on the headlines a bit less if they upset you 

which is fair. 
 

medical work up and a light workout is a reasonable minimum standard even if he’s not clear for everything yet 

 

Yea, it's pretty bizarre..  Did he think he was just going to have dinner with Josh and Von, then go to a Mavs game with Diggs and Parsons, tour facilities and the offers would come pouring in?  ..because it sounds like he did. 

[RiotAct]

9 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

The Bills blew it, by not taking OBJ, on a tour of Wegman's.. 😇😂

Front row, court side for an NBA game?

Tour of the Salad Bar at Weggie’s?

 

Tough call.

“and here we have the $14-plus-tax prepared turkey sandwiches with a little smattering of mayonnaise for your choosing”

[KDIGGZ]

Let's be honest, any Buffalo tour isn't going to compete with NYC/NJ or Dallas. He comes here if he wants a nice life for his kids and a chance to play with a future HOF QB. He goes elsewhere if he is focused on the nightlife and money. I think our team is built the way it is because we get the more mature minded athletes that don't want to be in the clubs all night and I don't think that's OBJ

[HOUSE]

This is like purchasing a badly damaged 2017 Ford Explorer over the internet without a test drive

Edited December 6, 2022 by HOUSE

[The 9 Isles]

Pass. 
 

from PFT:

 

“Beckham has been looking for a deal that runs through the 2023 season as well and any team signing him now may wind up getting very little, if anything, from the wideout before the year is out.”

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/06/jerry-jones-not-confident-at-all-signing-odell-beckham-jr-without-a-workout/

[WyoAZBillfan]

Whelp, I just seen it on Face Book…OBJ signing with the Bills. It must be true, FB is the gospel after all. 

[NoSaint]

31 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Yea, it's pretty bizarre..  Did he think he was just going to have dinner with Josh and Von, then go to a Mavs game with Diggs and Parsons, tour facilities and the offers would come pouring in?  ..because it sounds like he did. 

he may just workout for the final team before signing? I don’t know what his plan was there. 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said:

You didn't see my sarcasm button, turned on. Look for it.

 

In truth, a "Sarcasm" Emoji would be a great ad

 

11 minutes ago, WyoAZBillfan said:

Whelp, I just seen it on Face Book…OBJ signing with the Bills. It must be true, FB is the gospel after all. 

 

Link or it didn't happen

[WyoAZBillfan]

Just now, Beck Water said:

 

In truth, a "Sarcasm" Emoji would be a great ad

 

 

Link or it didn't happen

But it’s on FACE BOOK!! May as well just buy your OBJ jersey at this point. 😂😂 

on another note the poor soul who posted it is getting crucified, as he added the “My source just confirmed”.

[Beck Water]

27 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

Let's be honest, any Buffalo tour isn't going to compete with NYC/NJ or Dallas. He comes here if he wants a nice life for his kids and a chance to play with a future HOF QB. He goes elsewhere if he is focused on the nightlife and money. I think our team is built the way it is because we get the more mature minded athletes that don't want to be in the clubs all night and I don't think that's OBJ

 

And let's be further honest, OBJ is 100% a Bright Lights/Limelight guy, or he wouldn't have set this whole "Sign OBJ Competition Tour" up the way he did.  I give props to his agent, for "creating an urgent need" in potential buyers for his client, but it reeks of a client who is a limelight hog.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Beck Water

[BUFFALOTONE]

I would have serious reservations about our front office if they gave any length of contract to a player coming off such a serious injury. Unless they think he is the future for the next 2-3 years. Id need to put him through a workout period. 

[Einstein]

9 hours ago, NewEra said:

Meanwhile…. Diggs and Davis are tied for the league lead in drops with 6.  

 

As has been mentioned numerous times, drop statistics are not an official stat, are completely unreliable, and are subjective to the person counting the drop.

 

They say Davis has 6 drops yet he has closed to 15. They also said Kelvin Benjamin only had a few drops when he had over a dozen. Drop stats have always been awful.

 

12 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

The entire video had 14 throws… And not all of them were easy catches

 

Yeah, this is the NFL. Not every pass is going to drop into your hands like a floating marshmallow while the defender stands from 10 yards away and gives you encouragement.

 

Its always confused me when people say “it wasn’t a drop, the pass was broken up”. Yes it was. The defenders job is to knock the ball away. The receivers job is to catch the ball despite the defender trying to knock the ball away.

 

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Edited December 6, 2022 by Einstein

[Beck Water]

On 11/30/2022 at 11:23 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Very different types of WRs. Davis is mostly a product of scramble drill catches and schemed deep balls. 

 

I think there's some truth to this.  When looking at lowlights, one should really try for some balance by looking at highlight catches like this:

 

 

And this:

 

But to your point - I do think a lot of his catches do fall into the category of "deep balls, or scramble drills".   I actually think part of the problem is he isn't schemed open very often.  Josh seems to be forcing balls into him when he's actually well covered, and that's part of the "low catch %"/high INT against thing.  I said to a friend during the Pats game "Josh Allen isn't doing Davis any favors"

Edited December 6, 2022 by Beck Water

[sven233]

I've been on the "Sign OBJ" train most of the season.  But that was when I was sure he was going to be able to help this season.  If he isn't going to be able to play this season, I'm not signing him.  We definitely need a #2 WR.  Somewhere along the way Davis lost his hands and has not been the reliable target he's been the last couple seasons.  Even with the balls he does catch, it looks like he is fighting them and he's generally been a disappointment this season.  But, if OBJ can't help us in a meaningful way this season and give us a boost come playoff time, I am more than happy to wait until the offseason and address it in the Draft.  It's disappointing to hear that he may not be ready.  Obviously, Beane and company know the real truth about his situation and I trust him to make the right decision in regards to the player.  But in a year that has been only about 1 thing......winning the Super Bowl, we picked a bad season to take a step back at the WR position.

[wppete]

Is he announcing where he signs today? 

[Einstein]

11 hours ago, Beck Water said:

My intended point, which I’m sure I could have made more clearly, is that if I wanted to put together a film clip of 14 bad plays by Diggs, I could

 

Except you can’t. Diggs has about half the drops Davis does, while having WAY more targets.

[Yawning Frog]

49 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

This is like purchasing a badly damaged 2017 Ford Explorer over the internet without a test drive

My neighbor bought a car online, so he thought because all he got was nothing. Just an empty bill fold.😬 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Yawning Frog

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, wppete said:

Is he announcing where he signs today? 

No . Supposedly he’s going home after his tour to think it over. 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

OBJ is on a money grab tour.  I doubt he would make any meaningful impact on the Bills.  CMC is the guy they should have grabbed.

[nbbillsfan]

think the error was not getting Brandin Cooks. Not great, but could have helped us this year and I have a hard time imagining the Texans wouldn't give him up for a mid-to- late round pick.

[Einstein]

12 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Meh.  Bigger then the drops is how little separation there is on almost all those.  

 

They’re correlated.