MNF- Raiders @ Chiefs 10-10-22

[Rc2catch]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Von Miller and others must pressure up front.must bring there A+ game. All game 

Good luck.. Crosby and Jones were doing just that until holding was no longer a penalty. 
To be fair they let Vegas hold a ton as well. 

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, Process said:

 

 

That should be at least a game suspension.

[GolfandBills]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

He shoved an NFL Cameraman to the ground as he walked back to the locker room

Shefter and Rappaport will spin it and say Adams did it out the kindness of his heart 

[ToGoGo]

3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Egregious officiating tonight. Sure the Raiders made dumb plays but that game was as close to a fix as you can get.

 

With the involvement of betting, I hope someone goes to jail eventually. 

 

How long until a poorly treated ref leaves the league and blows whistle on a fix. I am 1,000% positive I see it in my life

 

What I think we're seeing is the NFL keeping certain games from becoming blowouts during primetime games. The goal is to have a close exciting game to maximize viewers for ad revenue. 

 

When did the penalties start? When the Raiders were up big. Then again when Chiefs got within 3 and Raiders had a chance to change momentum. When did it stop? When the Chiefs took the lead. 

 

This is not a new concept. The NFL has done this for a while, but they sometimes don't care who wins at the end as long as it's exciting. This is what burned us in the Texans playoff game. 

 

When it comes to Brady it's a different story. There's something going on behind the scenes there. 

[Nextmanup]

9 minutes ago, Bimmer323i said:

I say double that mother every play screw it… take him right outta game… all those damn lucky lobs Mahomes throws up and he always comes down with them

I think we acquired Edmunds solely to be able to deal with Kelce.

 

Is he gonna be able to go?
 

 

[billybob71]

1 minute ago, Rc2catch said:

Good luck.. Crosby and Jones were doing just that until holding was no longer a penalty. 
To be fair they let Vegas hold a ton as well. 

yeah NFL gonna want a shootout. gonna be no holding calls and lots of pass interference calls

[DapperCam]

I can’t believe that phantom defensive holding on the FG. What a screw job. They really had to dig deep for an obscure penalty there.

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, ToGoGo said:

 

What I think we're seeing is the NFL keeping certain games from becoming blowouts during primetime games. The goal is to have a close exciting game to maximize viewers for ad revenue. 

 

When did the penalties start? When the Raiders were up big. Then again when Chiefs got within 3 and Raiders had a chance to change momentum. When did it stop? When the Chiefs took the lead. 

 

This is not a new concept. The NFL has done this for a while, but they sometimes don't care who wins at the end as long as it's exciting. This is what burned us in the Texans playoff game. 

 

When it comes to Brady it's a different story. There's something going on behind the scenes there. 

[Scott7975]

I agree with Aikmen here.  Should be able to officiate with intent in mind.

[Rc2catch]

Just now, billybob71 said:

yeah NFL gonna want a shootout. gonna be no holding calls and lots of pass interference calls

And probably a bunch of roughing calls. 

[billybob71]

10 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Egregious officiating tonight. Sure the Raiders made dumb plays but that game was as close to a fix as you can get.

 

With the involvement of betting, I hope someone goes to jail eventually. 

 

How long until a poorly treated ref leaves the league and blows whistle on a fix. I am 1,000% positive I see it in my life

yeah i am really feeling like i only watch now cause i am so invested in the Bills, without that not sure i would anymore

[RiotAct]

1 minute ago, DapperCam said:

I can’t believe that phantom defensive holding on the FG. What a screw job. They really had to dig deep for an obscure penalty there.

luckily ESPN is breaking it down in detail right now like the excellent sports journalists they are.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

I think we acquired Edmunds solely to be able to deal with Kelce.

 

Is he gonna be able to go?
 

 

He very  undertated . I'm not sure 😂. Honest note hope he comes back 

[Fetou]

2 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

I can’t believe that phantom defensive holding on the FG. What a screw job. They really had to dig deep for an obscure penalty there.

The Raiders benefitted from a non existent roughing the passer late in the 2nd quarter that took away a turnover and allowed them to put points on the board. I'd net those two calls

[BillsShredder83]

13 minutes ago, motorj said:

You're nuts jacobs is garbage look at last year stats, cmc is the only choice

Stats lol dork. Did you see Jacob's tonight. He's an obvious upgrade

[Big Blitz]

Get rid of the weight on the QB rule - its always been stupid.  

 

Leave everything else with the QB as is

[BillsShredder83]

14 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Devante Adams bouta get suspended.

Whatd I miss?

[Low Positive]

Just now, BillsShredder83 said:

Whatd I miss?

hit a camera man.

[Bob in STL]

16 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

"Penalties" is more accurate. 

 

Defensive holding on a FG is something I'm sure had never happened before. Unless it was a fake fg.

I think I can recall the Bills getting that call.  

[DapperCam]

1 minute ago, Fetou said:

The Raiders benefitted from a non existent roughing the passer late in the 2nd quarter that took away a turnover and allowed them to put points on the board. I'd net those two calls

The rule exists that you can’t land on the  QB with your weight. Is it a dumb rule? Yes. But is it is a rule, and linemen should know it because it gets called every season. It’s at least understandable a ref might call that.

 

There was literally no defensive hold on the FG. Completely absent and put 7 points on the board for KC.

[Big Blitz]

If we played that Raiders team minus Waller tonight at home we'd have won by 30

 

Bring these sons of bit**** on

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Whatd I miss?

 

He shoved a young worker going into the tunnel and knocked him on his ass pretty hard when the kid was just walking by.

 

 

[BananaB]

2 minutes ago, Fetou said:

The Raiders benefitted from a non existent roughing the passer late in the 2nd quarter that took away a turnover and allowed them to put points on the board. I'd net those two calls

Then they got bombarded with a number of penalties while the Chiefs Oline were given a pass to start holding. 

[gobills404]

13 minutes ago, Process said:

 

Only solution is to suspend Tom Brady

[Simon]

Just now, BananaB said:

Then they got bombarded with a number of penalties while the Chiefs Oline were given a pass to start holding. 

 

The Raiders OLine was also ripping jerseys.

[SCBills]

I’m not sure I can find any semblance of reasoning for that FG hold call. 
 

Adams better not be mad at anyone but himself.  He’s paid to make that catch, and if he does.. the Raiders likely win. 

[Fetou]

1 minute ago, BananaB said:

Then they got bombarded with a number of penalties while the Chiefs Oline were given a pass to start holding. 

The holds are a persistent ***** show unfortunately. Jones was held so badly on that late drive in the 4th with no flag it was as if the rule had been amended to no longer exist. Sloppy calls all around but it was sloppy both ways

[Simon]

Just now, Fetou said:

The holds are a persistent ***** show unfortunately. Jones was held so badly on that late drive in the 4th with no flag it was as if the rule had been amended to no longer exist. Sloppy calls all around but it was sloppy both ways

 

I'm all for letting the players decide it, but that last one was so egregious I don't know how you can seriously  pretend you didn't see it.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

19 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

So? I still don't see how it makes the decision to go for 2 a bad one. Your point is simply that given one specific possible outcome, the Raiders may or may not have had time after getting the ball back to try to drive again and get a field goal. In fact that is what happened anyway (they did have time) even when they missed on the 2 pointer. 

 

edit: I don't want to argue about this. I don't really care. I just think you have to look at the entire probability outcome tree when making a decision and it's incorrect reasoning to key on one particular outcome. 

It's fine I don't have a stance either way in this case, but that's what the other poster was getting at 

[beebe]

the chiefs had the refs in their pocket in ways i've rarely seen in an NFL game that 2nd half. it was really something else.

[stevestojan]

Devonte has to get suspended for that right? 

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, beebe said:

the chiefs had the refs in their pocket in ways i've rarely seen in an NFL game that 2nd half. it was really something else.

Doesn’t bode well for next week either. 

3 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Devonte has to get suspended for that right? 

Probably, but who cares? It’s the Faiders 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Doesn’t bode well for next week either. 

The refs are catching quite a bit of social media blowback for the KC-biased 2nd half officiating as well. 
 

Hopefully the NFL makes it known that they are not to be a story in the Bills/Chiefs game. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

14 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I'm all for letting the players decide it, but that last one was so egregious I don't know how you can seriously  pretend you didn't see it.

They were 20 makeup calls deep by that point lol 

[Scott7975]

59 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

If they don't get it the Raiders would basically be in FG range already.

 

True but it was 4th and a short 1.  They had a bit of trouble stopping the raiders.  They have Mahomes.  Raiders couldnt stop the run all night.  Reid gets cocky. First down there is basically winning the game right then.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The refs are catching quite a bit of social media blowback for the KC-biased 2nd half officiating as well. 
 

Hopefully the NFL makes it known that they are not to be a story in the Bills/Chiefs game. 

I’d rather more flags honestly(as long as they’re correct obviously)…a flag less game benefits the chiefs.  They play a lot of handsy single coverage with dbs that have no business being left in single coverage against the receivers they’re matched up with

[Billl]

Absolute clown show of a game, but damn if it wasn’t entertaining.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

The officiating was pathetic. That was for sure a catch by Adams on the last drive. Chiefs we’re holding so much. I really hope this isn’t what’s on the table next week. This is a huge game for the Bills and the NFL as a whole so I have a feeling “they” are gonna want it coming down to the wire.

[QCity]

Absolute clownshow officiating.

[Mr. Wonderful]

50 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

I think we acquired Edmunds solely to be able to deal with Kelce.

 

Is he gonna be able to go?
 

 

Milano, who I think is the best player on the Bills defense and playing at an all-pro level couldn't and he's a much better football player than Edmunds.