Cowherd killing Bills coaching in his monologue

[Milanos Milano]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Newsflash,  Cowherd is right and Trent Dilfer totally agreed with him. McD in his entire tenure at Buffalo has failed to develop a running game. He expects JA to be 100% of the offense and eventually he'll get hurt.

Trent Dilfer would know. An average QB that won a super bowl due to a good D and coach. If Dilfer can win a super bowl, McD should be able to win with Ferrari Josh. Anything less is embarrassing. 

[Dopey]

37 minutes ago, zow2 said:

In a nutshell,  

Bills have a defensive coach. Allen is being used like Cam in Carolina.

6 years in, No ability to run the ball unless it’s Allen.  

No ability to create offense outside of Allen.

This can’t last with Allen. He will age out overnight down the road like Cam or Big Ben.

Great knockout punch but Only the Texans are as bad as Buffalo in close games since beginning of last year.

Not a fluke, happens because QB is exhausted and gets sloppy at the end from being overused.

 

 

Since the beginning of the 2020 season, Josh has thrown 82 TDs. Unless Allen is catching these himself, WTF does this even mean?!?

I don't like that Allen was 2nd on the team in rushing yds and rushing tds and I agree on the Cam thing. 

Ben played a long time.

Vs the Rams, Allen threw for a TD and ran for one in the 4th Quarter and had another TD pass in the 3rd.

Vs the Titans, Allen threw for 2 TDs in the 2nd half

Looking at games from last year, Allen was pretty productive in the 2nd half of games. Not sure where he's getting this from.

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

 

We had issues in BOTH end of halves with time management.  That's on the coaches.  Allen had 90 seconds to get the ball 45 yards and couldn't get it done.  That's on him as well.  They were 2 of 4 in goal to go drives, that's on the team.  But I do believe coach Cowher has a point when he says the coaching is doing something wrong when it comes to figuring out how to run the ball.  Moss, Singletary, and Cook are all high draft choices.  None of them (besides the Moss 43 yard run) are able to run the ball effectively.  That's 100% on the coaching and the inability to scheme up run plays to getting these guys space.

It's not 100% on the coaches. That's just ridiculous. As if the oline is not to blame for horrible run blocking, or injuries are not to blame for not having our starters on the oline, or even Beane is not to blame for not bringing in players who can effectively run block. Coaching is totally part of it, but there is plenty of blame to go around.

[TheBrownBear]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

It's just a Trumaine Edmunds situation. McDermott's haters watch the games with hyper focus, looking for any tiny thing that they can point to to continue to build their case against McDermott. Even if McDermott is perfect in every way, they will still point to execution errors by the players to blame McDermott. If we win by 30 it is because of Josh Allen, Leslie Frazier, and Ken Dorsey. It is never because of McDermott. They hate him, and they will never give him any credit, only blame.

I know it's become a board meme at this point, but there were posters who quite honestly found fault with his CLAPPING of all things.  There are always going to be folks that look for the worst in every situation.  Anything short of absolute perfection and they'll rush to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[whorlnut]

32 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Cowherd is from the Skip Bayless school of bad takes. 

Is it a bad take because you don’t agree with it?

[78thealltimegreat]

Josh Allen isn’t Can Newton he’s a 6’5 John Elway. People forget how much those 80s Broncos teams where to a one man gang until Terrell Davis came along in the late 90s so he wouldn’t have to do it himself did he finally win a Super Bowl. Cam had nowhere near the accuracy and touch Josh does but Elway definitely did. 

[BruceVilanch]

47 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Just commit to Singletary as your lead back and treat him like one.

I agree, and my fantasy football team agrees.

[TheBrownBear]

2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Trent Dilfer would know. An average QB that won a super bowl due to a good D and coach. If Dilfer can win a super bowl, McD should be able to win with Ferrari Josh. Anything less is embarrassing. 

Dilfer won because the Ravens had a collection of defensive players that comprised one of the top 3 defenses in NFL history.  And it helped that they had a matchup in the Super Bowl against a crap team.  As if Brian Billick, Marvin Lewis and the Ryans are some GOAT collection of coaching talent.  I'd take our guys over those dudes any day of the week. 

[Nextmanup]

Bills in-game coaching is average to below average.

 

Fans here will be the last people on Earth to acknowledge this, but so what?

 

Here's a good read, see what you think:

 

"BILLS HAVE A COMPOSURE PROBLEM"  

 

https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/geary-bills-have-a-composure-problem

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Those who can’t coach talk 💩 

 

[RiotAct]

58 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

Cowherd is an idiot.

I never liked him.

[DapperCam]

Can Newton was fine until he destroyed his shoulder getting hit in the pocket. This guy is a blowhard.

[Chicken Boo]

Much of this fan base just automatically assumes Josh will play at this level for 10 more years.  It's not realistic.  Even Ben and Cam had running games to lean on. 

 

Too much is being asked of Josh and it will eventually wear him down.  This isn't up for debate. 

[DrDawkinstein]

6 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Josh Allen isn’t Can Newton he’s a 6’5 John Elway. People forget how much those 80s Broncos teams where to a one man gang until Terrell Davis came along in the late 90s so he wouldn’t have to do it himself did he finally win a Super Bowl. Cam had nowhere near the accuracy and touch Josh does but Elway definitely did. 

 

First time reading this and it's the best comparison I've seen so far.

[Chicken Boo]

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

I dont disagree with him, that much.   However using Big Ben as an example when he won 2 Superbowls and is likely a 1st ballot hall of famer, and played until he was 39 years old is a bit obtuse.

 

Big Ben rarely had a team that couldn't run the ball effectively and he was pretty washed for his last 3 or so years.  

[mannc]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBill said:

Cowherd is an idiot.

He is, but in this case he is correct.

[jkeerie]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

In a nutshell,  

Bills have a defensive coach. Allen is being used like Cam in Carolina.

6 years in, No ability to run the ball unless it’s Allen.  

No ability to create offense outside of Allen.

This can’t last with Allen. He will age out overnight down the road like Cam or Big Ben.

Great knockout punch but Only the Texans are as bad as Buffalo in close games since beginning of last year.

Not a fluke, happens because QB is exhausted and gets sloppy at the end from being overused.

 

 

There is truth to this.  In the first two games, Josh was protected.  Yesterday, not so much.  We do need a running game, especially for games like this.  Our receivers were gassed yesterday when normally the Bills are getting chunk plays from those receivers.  Josh had to wait on his receivers yesterday more than normal.  A lot of the talking heads nationally are saying that the Bills are putting too much on Josh.

 

Yesterday, was a freakish day, with the Bills already banged up.  I'd like to see the Bills get healthy this week and also work on establishing more of a running game, so that we can have a two-pronged approach moving forward.  

[zow2]

30 minutes ago, McBean said:

Sean Payton.

 

Get him here next year Beane.

 

If not, we are going to waste Allen.

 

Another one of Cowherd's narratives is that he hates defensive head coaches in today's game.  He was politicking for Doug Pederson to be hired by anyone last spring, and finally the Jags got him   Even though McD has created a great culture, who knows,  maybe a Pederson or a Payton would get them over the hump?

 

As for the Bills, Daboll was pretty much the offense head coach and now Dorsey.  So it's a different animal here.  I think McDermott knows he doesn't have the expertise on that side of the ball so he defers to Daboll/Dorsey.  

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

22 minutes ago, TH3 said:

With third string O line? LOL

The “third string O line” could have used a break from the nonstop blitzing. Kromer can dial up a scheme to grind out a drive. The roster is full of players up and down the depth chart that can play that way; except for the RB. This team has no effective run game because it doesn’t have a decent enough RB, to make the defense consider defending them. 
 

Cook has shown nothing yet, except he doesn’t have great hands. Miss doesn’t belong on this team. One 46 yard scramble doesn’t help, when you can’t hang your hat on 3rd and short. 
 

The O line and it’s depth are a strength of this team. Running Back by committee is killing them. 

[nosejob]

50 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Throw the Dolphins game in the trash. There are to many variables to draw conclusions after one freaking loss 

I know this is the right thing to do. I've known it for over 4 decades, but I still feel like going berserk and my Mondays after a game like this are ruined. I hate Miami more than ever now. I'd also be surprised if the issue of Tua getting concussed going forward doesn't rear it's ugly head.

[Milanos Milano]

We finally got our Bruuuuce, now we need our Thurman. Should have just draft Hall and a bunch of linemen. 

[TheBrownBear]

Just now, Chicken Boo said:

 

Big Ben rarely had a team that couldn't run the ball effectively and he was pretty washed for his last 3 or so years.  

Agreed.  Peyton Manning at his peak had Edgerrin and Brady, while never having a great lead back, always had a good running game to support him.  The Bills absolutely need to get this figured out over the next year.  Times have changed, but there needs to be some balance (and that balance can't be coming from Josh's legs).

[Chicken Boo]

1 minute ago, zow2 said:

 

Another one of Cowherd's narratives is that he hates defensive head coaches in today's game.  He was politicking for Doug Pederson to be hired by anyone last spring, and finally the Jags got him   Even though McD has created a great culture, who knows,  maybe a Pederson or a Payton would get them over the hump?

 

If there is any sort of coaching blunder that costs the Bills in the post season or if they fail to get a running game going at least by next year, I'm going to start thinking this way.

[Big Turk]

Just now, TheBrownBear said:

Agreed.  Peyton Manning at his peak had Edgerrin and Brady, while never having a great lead back, always had a good running game to support him.  The Bills absolutely need to get this figured out over the next year.  Times have changed, but there needs to be some balance (and that balance can't be coming from Josh's legs).

 

Brady had a good run game and backs that were almost interchangeable in their abilities to catch the ball well out of the backfield on checkdowns

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

First time reading this and it's the best comparison I've seen so far.

I think it's a bad comparison...Elway was a very effective scrambler, but I don't remember the Broncos ever using him on designed runs, other than the occasional QB sneak, certainly nothing like the way Allen is used... 

[SCBills]

McDermott had this team READY yesterday.   We went into the game depleted on defense due to injury, and you would not have known it one bit. 
 

Credit to McD and the staff for that.  
 

Now, in-game… 3 Things:

 

1). 3rd and long, in deep shot territory, against a deep shot team.  Rushing 3 was unforgivable there. Especially with two young Safeties. 
 

2).  4th and 4 and we kick a FG.  I don’t believe in football karma, but that felt like a go for it moment.  Up 3, in a game that we were searching for that final TD, and we kick.  Bass misses the chip shot. 
 

3). We knew the weather forecast.  We know we’re a passing team.  Why do we only have 5 WR’s active, with one being a banged up Davis?   I don’t know what Shakir is, but I know we desperately needed fresh legs out there. 

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

The “third string O line” could have used a break from the nonstop blitzing. Kromer can dial up a scheme to grind out a drive. The roster is full of players up and down the depth chart that can play that way; except for the RB. This team has no effective run game because it doesn’t have a decent enough RB, to make the defense consider defending them. 
 

Cook has shown nothing yet, except he doesn’t have great hands. Miss doesn’t belong on this team. One 46 yard scramble doesn’t help, when you can’t hang your hat on 3rd and short. 
 

The O line and it’s depth are a strength of this team. Running Back by committee is killing them. 

I thought Cook looked pretty good yesterday...

[78thealltimegreat]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

First time reading this and it's the best comparison I've seen so far.

Cam was a grind on you ball control qb and he was really good at that but getting into a 38-35 shootout wasn’t his game. Josh definitely does that aka Elway. I just picture Josh with a shannahan style running game. I actually thought Dorsey going back to his Miami Hurricane days was going to do more of that even with their skill talent they where still a run heavy offense. 

[nosejob]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

We finally got our Bruuuuce, now we need our Thurman. Should have just draft Hall and a bunch of linemen. 

I think this was the plan for 23. Beane is good at stepping contracts and they took care of The Dline this year. I bet this next off season he completes things with a kickass Oline.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

6 minutes ago, mannc said:

He is, but in this case he is correct.

Even idiots are right every now and then 

 

[TheBrownBear]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

We finally got our Bruuuuce, now we need our Thurman. Should have just draft Hall and a bunch of linemen. 

Look around the league, the peak for lead backs doesn't last long and there's guys from all sorts of draft positions getting it done (see Ekeler).  I think Singletary is a good back and he's shown as much when we've given him the ball consistently.  I'd argue our offensive line is probably adequate when healthy too.  We just need to actually commit to running the ball.  Backs and lines improve when given the opportunity to establish a rhythm.  It might mean a couple of punts in the first half of games, especially early in the year as you're establishing that rhythm and consistency, but it will pay off down the road.

[KOKBILLS]

1 hour ago, Jukester said:

It’s funny how we were media darlings before this week. Really?!! He has absolutely no perspective on this last game. Yes it was all Allen centric because we had no other choice. Hello:

No Hyde
No Poyer
No White
No Jackson
No Phillips
No Oliver
Limited Diggs
Limited McKenzie
Limited Knox
Limited Davis
No Morse
No Brown
No Bates
No Van Roten

…and we still should’ve won. 

 

No Kumerow after his injury too...

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

In a nutshell,  

Bills have a defensive coach. Allen is being used like Cam in Carolina.

6 years in, No ability to run the ball unless it’s Allen.  

No ability to create offense outside of Allen.

This can’t last with Allen. He will age out overnight down the road like Cam or Big Ben.

Great knockout punch but Only the Texans are as bad as Buffalo in close games since beginning of last year.

Not a fluke, happens because QB is exhausted and gets sloppy at the end from being overused.

 

 

He is spot on and time for Beane to look to see what RB'S are available.  I am so tired of people saying Moss and Singletary are fine when they just cannot make yards and we need our QB to run the ball.  Cook at this point looks like a project or pass receiver,  start bringing in guys for tryouts.  I like Singetary as a pass catcher but we need someone who can get those tough yards.  

[Franco_92]

Cowherd was literally sucking off the bills, and McDermott, like 3 days ago

 

[Milanos Milano]

10 minutes ago, nosejob said:

I think this was the plan for 23. Beane is good at stepping contracts and they took care of The Dline this year. I bet this next off season he completes things with a kickass Oline.

Hope so. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

We're all disappointed they didn't pull this one out but the fact is the Bills were out-manned from a roster standpoint before the game started and lost players during the course of the game and still were just one play away from pulling out the win.  You got a complete back up secondary with back ups to back ups coming in later.  Defensive tackle starters out, offensive linemen dropping like flies during the game, receivers puking and cramping, and injured, and oppressive sun, heat, and humidity.  Who exactly did anyone expect would put the team on his back given those circumstances?     

 

I didn't hear what Cowherd had to say but I watched Get Up on ESPN and Rex Ryan mentioned how the sun, heat, and humidity gives the Dolphins a huge advantage in their September home games and the biggest factor in this game was where and when it was played.  The other guys talked about how great Tua was throwing for a pedestrian 186 yards against a complete 2nd string secondary and how well Miami's defense played giving up 497 yards to a depleted offense.  Which leads me to believe these guys commenting on the game don't even watch it except for maybe a couple highlights.

 

Ironically, the Bills lose the game and move into the #1 spot for total defense yards allowed at 214 per game.   Miami's defense drops to 31st.  The only team rated worse is our next opponent, the Ravens.

Edited September 26, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[GunnerBill]

45 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

The Chiefs, Cowherd's comparison, have never had a great offensive line and their scheme doesn't necessarily require one.

 

You just can't be dominant at every position group. It's not feasible. The Chiefs have the offensive minds on staff to utilize one of the game's best young QBs to overcome personnel deficiencies in their offense, while the Bills as of yet have not been able to find similar results with arguably a more talented QB.

 

Their offensive line now is pretty good. Granted hasn't always been thus. But there were spells last year their offense really struggled and their scheme and playcalling was rightly under the microscope. 

 

Could the Bills be better scheme wise? Sure, you can always be better. But the main reason this offense relies so heavily on Josh Allen so often is because we don't protect well enough IMO. 

[John from Riverside]

Show me a team that has a franchise QB that doesn’t get leaned on too much

 

That’s the way it works

[Ned Flanders]

1 hour ago, 2003Contenders said:

-- Next-to-last possession in the 2nd half. 2nd and goal (about a foot to go): Allen in shotgun for 3 straight plays, beginning with RPO that loses almost 2 yards.

I was yelling expletives at the TV when I saw JA in the shotgun on 2nd down.  I don't care who was at center, you have three plays to gain three feet...go under center and power your way in...if it takes three tries, so be it.  That entire sequence was abysmal.   

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, Ned Flanders said:

I was yelling expletives at the TV when I saw JA in the shotgun on 2nd down.  I don't care who was at center, you have three plays to gain three feet...go under center and power your way in...if it takes three tries, so be it.  That entire sequence was abysmal.   

Van Roten botched multiple snaps when Allen was under center.  They weren't even going to risk it with the 3rd string C.