Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Why is it so hard for them to bring us real offensive linemen? We haven’t taken a 1st or 2nd round WR in how long? We deal with injuries and this is what we get, Allen with no time to throw and he’s going to end up getting hurt by it. Don’t get me wrong, Allen scrambling for yards is ok in some situations, but sidestepping on nearly every play because of trash blocking is going to get him killed eventually. If this next draft isn’t dedicated to multiple linemen, a WR and a S, then they get what they deserve. 4 8 7 6 3 5 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Merry Christmas! It’s negative day for you! Bet you’re excited! 4 15 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Well, considering we were down what, 2 or 3 starting OL today? Seems like a bad time to criticize, what team can flawlessly survive that? I mean we had PS CBs playing today, so hard to knock the Elam pick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Merry Christmas! It’s negative day for you! Bet you’re excited! Not really, livid watching Allen grinding into oblivion so we can rotate linemen that can’t get home outside of Rousseau and Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 This place is so fun after a tough loss. Apologies to the OP I already gave out the post of year award to someone else. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 So we just gonna pretend we weren’t missing Morse, Brown, Knox, Bates and Diggs at the end? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Let’s draft more defensive linemen so we can lose on 3rd and 22nd for the millionth time! 1 2 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 As I've said elsewhere, we would have won if the game was in Buffalo today. The heat killed the Bills offense, from the linemen to the skill players. I'm not worried at this point. We were the better team today on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Pretty sure if we even just had Morse in for this game, it would’ve been a win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, gobills404 said: So we just gonna pretend we weren’t missing Morse, Brown, Knox, Bates and Diggs at the end? Just goes to show you offensive negligence is catching up. 3 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) Yeah no. Backup Center to start. Then backup RT and RG during the game. Then backup to the backup Center mid game. I’d say that our backups and 3rd string OL played pretty well today considering. not giving excuses, we had the win in our hands and didn’t catch it. But the OL wasn’t nearly as terrible as you think Edited September 25, 2022 by mrags 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Why is it so hard for them to bring us real offensive linemen? We haven’t taken a 1st or 2nd round WR in how long? We deal with injuries and this is what we get, Allen with no time to throw and he’s going to end up getting hurt by it. Don’t get me wrong, Allen scrambling for yards is ok in some situations, but sidestepping on nearly every play because of trash blocking is going to get him killed eventually. If this next draft isn’t dedicated to multiple linemen, a WR and a S, then they get what they deserve. The online was fine the first 2 games. We played in 75,000 degree heat and were down Mitch Morse. They should call this site "billsconclusionjumpers.com" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 In fairness, he spent big on Miller but he didn't really turn up today. Rousseau did far more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Why is it so hard for them to bring us real offensive linemen? We haven’t taken a 1st or 2nd round WR in how long? We deal with injuries and this is what we get, Allen with no time to throw and he’s going to end up getting hurt by it. Don’t get me wrong, Allen scrambling for yards is ok in some situations, but sidestepping on nearly every play because of trash blocking is going to get him killed eventually. If this next draft isn’t dedicated to multiple linemen, a WR and a S, then they get what they deserve. Look, I understand heat & injuries really made this a s*** show for us today, but you're still 100% right about the O-line. This is something Josh Allen has helped cover up for the past few years, but this team has barely invested anything in upgrading this line. All they do is look to patch it up each off-season, with mid-level vets & late round picks. They prioritize "flexibility" & guys who can be a Swiss army knife filling holes, rather than elite talent at their respective position. It's part of the reason we can't run the ball, regardless of who the RB's are. James Cook might be amazing, but we'll never know his true potential with this line. Allen dancing around pressure & scrambling helps keep their sack numbers low, but they're mediocre group at BEST. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: Just goes to show you offensive negligence is catching up. You've lost all sanity at this point. Have a puppers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: Well, considering we were down what, 2 or 3 starting OL today? Seems like a bad time to criticize, what team can flawlessly survive that? I mean we had PS CBs playing today, so hard to knock the Elam pick. I would go even farther and say what team could even stay in the game with the level of injuries we had/have. Man I hate this board after a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Malazan said: You've lost all sanity at this point. Have a puppers. The fact that we even have to rely on Bates is a travesty. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 So if I’m correct, we need back up safeties and more linemen, my guess being either higher draft picks or free agents, but also somehow getting Josh more weapons….sounds reasonable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Why is it so hard for them to bring us real offensive linemen? We haven’t taken a 1st or 2nd round WR in how long? We deal with injuries and this is what we get, Allen with no time to throw and he’s going to end up getting hurt by it. Don’t get me wrong, Allen scrambling for yards is ok in some situations, but sidestepping on nearly every play because of trash blocking is going to get him killed eventually. If this next draft isn’t dedicated to multiple linemen, a WR and a S, then they get what they deserve. We had practice squad players come in relief, there is no team that are 3 deep at every position on the OL. this is the dumbest thread I've seen in quite some time and there has been some doozies on here after a loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Why is it so hard for them to bring us real offensive linemen? We haven’t taken a 1st or 2nd round WR in how long? We deal with injuries and this is what we get, Allen with no time to throw and he’s going to end up getting hurt by it. Don’t get me wrong, Allen scrambling for yards is ok in some situations, but sidestepping on nearly every play because of trash blocking is going to get him killed eventually. If this next draft isn’t dedicated to multiple linemen, a WR and a S, then they get what they deserve. You realize that the starting and second string centers were out, the starting RG and RT out as well. They were down to last lineman in lineup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, BigDingus said: Look, I understand heat & injuries really made this a s*** show for us today, but you're still 100% right about the O-line. This is something Josh Allen has helped cover up for the past few years, but this team has barely invested anything in upgrading this line. All they do is look to patch it up each off-season, with mid-level vets & late round picks. They prioritize "flexibility" & guys who can be a Swiss army knife filling holes, rather than elite talent at their respective position. It's part of the reason we can't run the ball, regardless of who the RB's are. James Cook might be amazing, but we'll never know his true potential with this line. Allen dancing around pressure & scrambling helps keep their sack numbers low, but they're mediocre group at BEST. I can’t like this post enough. Josh covers up so many warts but he can’t dodge everything. When they whiff bad stuff happens and can be game changing turnovers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Just goes to show you offensive negligence is catching up. So the answer is yes you are gonna ignore it. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Just goes to show you offensive negligence is catching up. I got news for you - ANY team that goes into the game minus their Center who's one of their top Lineman than loses their RT to heat illness, their backup Center to injury, and their RG to a head injury is going to be in a bad spot. The Line was very good the first two games and it's not like we have a bad Offensive Line with a Pro Bowl LT, a Pro Bowl LG, and one of the top Center's in Football. Your argument is moot today. Edited September 25, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Merry Christmas! It’s negative day for you! Bet you’re excited! He’s not wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 It’s always the same folks.. 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Davis didn’t look right today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, whorlnut said: He’s not wrong. Yes he is and so are you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Why is it so hard for them to bring us real offensive linemen? We haven’t taken a 1st or 2nd round WR in how long? We deal with injuries and this is what we get, Allen with no time to throw and he’s going to end up getting hurt by it. Don’t get me wrong, Allen scrambling for yards is ok in some situations, but sidestepping on nearly every play because of trash blocking is going to get him killed eventually. If this next draft isn’t dedicated to multiple linemen, a WR and a S, then they get what they deserve. 5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Let’s draft more defensive linemen so we can lose on 3rd and 22nd for the millionth time! These are contradictory statements 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Rc2catch said: It’s always the same folks.. 🤦♂️ You can actually see a few of them start to get excited and ramp up their posts in the game day thread as things start to go south 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Xwnyer said: You realize that the starting and second string centers were out, the starting RG and RT out as well. They were down to last lineman in lineup Sounds like we have some really soft linemen. Time to bring in some real all pros instead of this makeshift straw house. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Again there is an element of overreaction here. But I have been prettt consistent in saying I didn't think they had done enough on the OL. They ended up with 3 backups in, I get it, but even before that the OL was rough today. That is 4 of our last 7 losses regular and post season where the offense has had the ball at the end with a chance to win the game and OL breakdowns have sunk the drive. It is a pattern. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: These are contradictory statements 😂 It’s not, it’s showing why bother with defense (Elam, Benford, Hamlin, Johnson, etc) when they can’t guard when it really matters. Might as well build an unstoppable offensive and get in shutouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Sounds like we have some really soft linemen. Time to bring in some real all pros instead of this makeshift straw house. Yeah they're just growing on trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Merry Christmas! It’s negative day for you! Bet you’re excited! the doom gloom threads will die down if not fed. I cant even keep up with who is Healthy right now much less who is injured after this game. what a debacle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 With the existence of the salary cap it’s not possible to have pro bowl players on all positions. I’d say this team is built quite well and deep when the backups is a faster ref from a winning field goal against a really good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Just goes to show you offensive negligence is catching up. Best offense in football = “offensive negligence” Cant make this up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Not really, livid watching Allen grinding into oblivion so we can rotate linemen that can’t get home outside of Rousseau and Miller. You mean having 5 OL hurt. If you don’t pay attention during games, don’t start posting nonsense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: It’s not, it’s showing why bother with defense (Elam, Benford, Hamlin, Johnson, etc) when they can’t guard when it really matters. Might as well build an unstoppable offensive and get in shutouts. Do you play Sega? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Why is it so hard for them to bring us real offensive linemen? We haven’t taken a 1st or 2nd round WR in how long? We deal with injuries and this is what we get, Allen with no time to throw and he’s going to end up getting hurt by it. Don’t get me wrong, Allen scrambling for yards is ok in some situations, but sidestepping on nearly every play because of trash blocking is going to get him killed eventually. If this next draft isn’t dedicated to multiple linemen, a WR and a S, then they get what they deserve. Seriously with this garbage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Look, I understand heat & injuries really made this a s*** show for us today, but you're still 100% right about the O-line. This is something Josh Allen has helped cover up for the past few years, but this team has barely invested anything in upgrading this line. All they do is look to patch it up each off-season, with mid-level vets & late round picks. They prioritize "flexibility" & guys who can be a Swiss army knife filling holes, rather than elite talent at their respective position. It's part of the reason we can't run the ball, regardless of who the RB's are. James Cook might be amazing, but we'll never know his true potential with this line. Allen dancing around pressure & scrambling helps keep their sack numbers low, but they're mediocre group at BEST. Offensive line has been neglected and now Allen showing signs of battle wounds (wrist). The fact we haven’t protected our best player ever is a travesty in its own right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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