Panthers signing Raheem Blackshear off PS

[DCofNC]

7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

In other news the Bills third string running back (Cook) had 53 yds on 11 Carry’s against a regular season NFL defense with Case Keenum under center 

Apparently you missed the part where TN pulled most of their key guys too.  That became the 4th preseason game.  He also looked terrible between the tackles yet again.

[Chuck Schick]

17 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

 

 It’s going to be ugly once Motor leaves, he’s not great, but the drop off means we are going to have to do something.

Is this for real? Ugly? 

[Malazan]

5 pages already.. can we beat out the mario williams thread? 

[DCofNC]

1 minute ago, Chuck Schick said:

Is this for real? Ugly? 

At this point, there’s not even a borderline starter on the roster outside of Motor.  Have to do something.

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, Malazan said:

5 pages already.. can we beat out the mario williams thread? 

Maybe but we won't beat the Matt Araiza thread. 

[Joe Ferguson]

Zack Moth should have been cut and elevated Blackshear. How many more times we see Zack "wasted play" Moth goes down after 1 yard rush?

[Malazan]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

Maybe but we won't beat the Matt Araiza thread. 

Never heard of it. 

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Apparently you missed the part where TN pulled most of their key guys too.  That became the 4th preseason game.  He also looked terrible between the tackles yet again.

Every single person on that field made the NFL team Monday 

 

More than Half of the people Blackshear was running against are no longer playing

[jkeerie]

12 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I like the kid, would have liked to see him actually unseat Moss, but the reality is, he would be on the roster we’re it not for Cook being a 2nd round pick.  It’s clear to see who performed better, but the Cook miss-draft cost Blackshear his spot.  
 

It would be cool if there was ever a decision made based on performance, not draft/salary implications.   Beane has done a hell of a job building a really good roster.  That is first and foremost, but McBean have   made some real bad calls.
 

Teller got the boot bc of Ford being a 2nd round pick, turned into an All-pro, the Bills favored draft status and veteran incompetence over talent.  Now you see the same thing coming back again, Howard going off for 2 TDs after a week in the Texans system, meanwhile, Sweeney is inactive.  I am happy Morris made the roster, but Sweeney? Really?   Now look at Cook and Moss taking up not one but TWO game day spots because the FO can’t identify a decent RB in the draft to save their lives.  2 third round picks, and a second round pick spent over 4 years to have ONE, slightly better than replacement level RB on the roster..  I guess when you can’t sign a marginal $3M pass catching back, you should just draft a lesser one in the second round.  Makes sense.   They could have spent that second round pick this year on an impactful position like CB or LB, but here we are with a RB that can’t get on the field, when there are guys on the street that would be an upgrade to RB 2. 
 

I love where the team is, but the wasted early round picks bother me.  There have been many opportunities to make this team better than they are and Beane simply outsmarted himself.   He seems to fall in love with a player/idea of a role, for some reason and can’t move off that.   It’s probably his only glaring flaw, thank God he was locked in on getting JA, I guess we will never know if it was really the case that he wanted JA or one of the others and had to settle, but he moved up to get that QB and absolutely killed it.  Having JA will hide a lot of flaws, hopefully we will find a real RB eventually.  It’s going to be ugly once Motor leaves, he’s not great, but the drop off means we are going to have to do something.

And one pass for 7 yards in the second game of the season.

 

As to the rest of your post...Moss and Cook are good backs.  Cook just needs more time to learn.  Blackshear looked great in preseason but that was against  backups, so you can really gauge.  He may well end up being a good back.  

 

CB and LB in the second?  We drafted two of each and those 4 players are looking very good right now, so your argument is lost on me.

 

I trust Beane and McD more than the average fan.  Teller was a mistake that they readily admit.  I think they do know how to draft, though as evidenced by the end result.

[billybob71]

I don't really get all the Moss hate, so far this season he has been solid and its well known he was dealing with nagging injury last year

[HOUSE]

I remember when everyone went bonkers over Wildgoose being claimed by the Jets

Wildgoose went to the Jets then waived. Now he is a 3rd stringer in Washington

https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/depth/_/name/wsh/washington-commanders

[NickelCity]

5 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

I don't really get all the Moss hate, so far this season he has been solid and its well known he was dealing with nagging injury last year

 

I didn't really get all the rejuvenated enthusiasm for Moss during this offseason, but I wasn't sold on the nagging injury being the root of all of his issues last year.

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Panthers finally learning to be proactive in addressing the inevitable McCaffrey injury.

Was just thinking, he'll be their starter next week.🤣

[Perk71]

Noooo

[billybob71]

9 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

I didn't really get all the rejuvenated enthusiasm for Moss during this offseason, but I wasn't sold on the nagging injury being the root of all of his issues last year.

hard work in the off season usually pays off, he looked good to me in person Monday night, looked strong and physical and good in pass pro. We sometimes too quick to write a guy off and anoint the shiny new rookie

 

 

 

Just now, billybob71 said:

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by billybob71

[H2o]

Christian McCaffrey seeing the news

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

32 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Apparently you missed the part where TN pulled most of their key guys too.  That became the 4th preseason game.  He also looked terrible between the tackles yet again.

maybe…  was that before or after he outran everyone except for the 4.28 40 safety? 
 

He’s not a between the tackles runner 😂 

21 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

I don't really get all the Moss hate, so far this season he has been solid and its well known he was dealing with nagging injury last year

I get nagged a lot. Can it really result in an injury??

[Draconator]

54 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I like the kid, would have liked to see him actually unseat Moss, but the reality is, he would be on the roster we’re it not for Cook being a 2nd round pick.  It’s clear to see who performed better, but the Cook miss-draft cost Blackshear his spot.  
 

It would be cool if there was ever a decision made based on performance, not draft/salary implications.   Beane has done a hell of a job building a really good roster.  That is first and foremost, but McBean have   made some real bad calls.
 

Teller got the boot bc of Ford being a 2nd round pick, turned into an All-pro, the Bills favored draft status and veteran incompetence over talent.  Now you see the same thing coming back again, Howard going off for 2 TDs after a week in the Texans system, meanwhile, Sweeney is inactive.  I am happy Morris made the roster, but Sweeney? Really?   Now look at Cook and Moss taking up not one but TWO game day spots because the FO can’t identify a decent RB in the draft to save their lives.  2 third round picks, and a second round pick spent over 4 years to have ONE, slightly better than replacement level RB on the roster..  I guess when you can’t sign a marginal $3M pass catching back, you should just draft a lesser one in the second round.  Makes sense.   They could have spent that second round pick this year on an impactful position like CB or LB, but here we are with a RB that can’t get on the field, when there are guys on the street that would be an upgrade to RB 2. 
 

I love where the team is, but the wasted early round picks bother me.  There have been many opportunities to make this team better than they are and Beane simply outsmarted himself.   He seems to fall in love with a player/idea of a role, for some reason and can’t move off that.   It’s probably his only glaring flaw, thank God he was locked in on getting JA, I guess we will never know if it was really the case that he wanted JA or one of the others and had to settle, but he moved up to get that QB and absolutely killed it.  Having JA will hide a lot of flaws, hopefully we will find a real RB eventually.  It’s going to be ugly once Motor leaves, he’s not great, but the drop off means we are going to have to do something.

 

You could have said you like Blackshear over Moss and Cook, and saved us the War and Peace post...

[ColoradoBills]

I personally would have thought Duke Johnson would be getting poached before Blackshear.

Always a chance that Baa Baa gets signed to the Bills camp next season.

I'm still not 100% convinced that Devin will not be extended next season.  If he willing to do a 3 year for reasonable money.

[HOUSE]

It's interesting because the Panthers are healthy at RB. My guess is somebody is getting traded

[Draconator]

Just now, HOUSE said:

It's interesting because the Panthers are healthy at RB. My guess is somebody is getting traded

McCaffrey to Buffalo. I just know it.

[HOUSE]

3 minutes ago, Draconator said:

McCaffrey to Buffalo. I just know it.

You read my mind 

[CowgirlsFan]

DARN!

[H2o]

We're 2-0, have dominated the defending SB champs on their home field, destroyed the AFC #1 seed from a year ago in our home opener, have outscored these two opponents by a combined 72-17, and people are on here leaving a trail of tears over Blackshear getting signed off of our PS to play for a crap Panthers team? 

Edited September 21, 2022 by H2o

[Draconator]

1 minute ago, HOUSE said:

You read my mind 

And I have your wallet. 

 

You ain't getting it back. You're loaded dude!

[Bob in STL]

I thought Blackshear looked good.  He never got to play with or against the 1's.   

 

Best wishes to him.   Who knows, he may be back again.  

[HOUSE]

15 minutes ago, Draconator said:

And I have your wallet. 

 

You ain't getting it back. You're loaded dude!

Nobody gets near my wallet,  I have 24 hour security guards..

 

 

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Edited September 21, 2022 by HOUSE

[Low Positive]

21 minutes ago, H2o said:

We're 2-0, have dominated the defending SB chaps on their home field, destroyed the AFC #1 seed from a year ago in our home opener, have outscored these two opponents by a combined 72-17, and people are on here leaving a trail of tears over Blackshear getting signed off of our PS to play for a crap Panthers team? 

Falling in love with UDFAs is a hard habit to break for BIlls' fans.

[DCofNC]

52 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

And one pass for 7 yards in the second game of the season.

 

As to the rest of your post...Moss and Cook are good backs.  Cook just needs more time to learn.  Blackshear looked great in preseason but that was against  backups, so you can really gauge.  He may well end up being a good back.  

 

CB and LB in the second?  We drafted two of each and those 4 players are looking very good right now, so your argument is lost on me.

 

I trust Beane and McD more than the average fan.  Teller was a mistake that they readily admit.  I think they do know how to draft, though as evidenced by the end result.

How would you classify the LBs “looking good” based on the fact they haven’t been on the field outside of garbage time?  
 

CB is easily the thinnest position on the roster, you can’t see how we could use another top talent there? 
 

How much time does Cook need to learn?  He couldn’t start at Georgia, sitting behind a back that’s barely hanging on to a roster spot in the NFL.  Yeah, he’s got a couple of nice traits, but he’s never done anything with them.  He’s a pass catching back, that offers zero versatility, no blocking and is useless between the tackles, sounds like a hell of a 2nd round pick.  I know you think you got Dalvin Cook, but you got Cooper Manning and don’t recognize it yet.

30 minutes ago, Draconator said:

McCaffrey to Buffalo. I just know it.

That would be epic, 99.9% not happening, but damn.

[T&C]

9 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Nobody gets near my wallet,  I have 24 hour security guards..

 

 

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The golf cart guys with an official security badge and drinking beer?

[T master]

I will be very interested to see how he does if given a real chance to run the rock I think he is a better option than Moss at the very least his preseason said he was but now maybe he will get to see if he is on game day !! I will be cheering him on .

[Draconator]

25 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Nobody gets near my wallet,  I have 24 hour security guards..

 

 

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[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Chuck Schick said:

Blackshear will never be heard from again, most likely.  He’s #4 on a team with a superstar and 2 legit RBs (Foreman and Hubbard) ahead of him.  Good for him though to get the paycheck. 

 

I dont think they are going to sign a guy to their roster and have no plans for him whatsoever.  That would make zero sense.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

27 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

How would you classify the LBs “looking good” based on the fact they haven’t been on the field outside of garbage time?  
 

CB is easily the thinnest position on the roster, you can’t see how we could use another top talent there? 
 

How much time does Cook need to learn?  He couldn’t start at Georgia, sitting behind a back that’s barely hanging on to a roster spot in the NFL.  Yeah, he’s got a couple of nice traits, but he’s never done anything with them.  He’s a pass catching back, that offers zero versatility, no blocking and is useless between the tackles, sounds like a hell of a 2nd round pick.  I know you think you got Dalvin Cook, but you got Cooper Manning and don’t recognize it yet.

That would be epic, 99.9% not happening, but damn.

 

How much time does Cook need to learn?

 

Buffalo tends to draft for traits.  You highlighted everything he struggles with and literally said nothing positive about him. 

1. Fast - 4.42 speed, but also it seems like its a fairly sudden speed out of his blocks.  
2. Patience - doesn't just blaze right into his blocks
3. Solid hands - mismatch against LBs
4. Cuts - Has the ability to make cuts with speed to gain additional yards

6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I dont think they are going to sign a guy to their roster and have no plans for him whatsoever.  That would make zero sense.

 

I think he's more of an insurance policy for CMC than either hubbard or Foreman regarding skillsets.  But those 2 actually have other roles in the offense.  They can also use him as a returner a bit.

 

As for Duke - He likely is casing a winner at this point not a 3 week NFL paycheck.  

Edited September 21, 2022 by Bleeding Bills Blue

[Chuck Schick]

5 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I dont think they are going to sign a guy to their roster and have no plans for him whatsoever.  That would make zero sense.

Oh he will suit up from time to time, maybe get a couple carries.  But this move is essentially replacing guy #53ish on their roster.  It's not to plug him in as a significant piece of a puzzle.

[Rc2catch]

11 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I dont think they are going to sign a guy to their roster and have no plans for him whatsoever.  That would make zero sense.

lol you must not have been following the great coach Rhule the last few years. Almost all his moves have made zero sense since he took over. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 minutes ago, Chuck Schick said:

Oh he will suit up from time to time, maybe get a couple carries.  But this move is essentially replacing guy #53ish on their roster.  It's not to plug him in as a significant piece of a puzzle.

 

They lost roberts so... i'd assume he takes over some return duties if he's active on gamedays. 

[AuntieEm]

2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

They are like Free Agents. They could absolutely choose to stay on the PS, not get playing time, and stay at the low PS pay. Or they can choose to go to the new team which MUST put them on the active roster, and get real pay. It's unlikely, but it's possible.

 

 Well if a player is really one the team does not want to lose they can offer to pay him a bonus to not sign with another team.

[Greatdane21]

Poached again ! The front office does all the work only to have other teams reap the benefits.But they still have “Duke” who looked good in camp .  They will probably sign a safety.

[Freddie's Dead]

Baa Baa Blackshear gonna rip it up for CAR.