marck Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I was reviewing the injury list for Sunday and saw that Cody Ford is out for the Cardinals and Mario Addison is doubtful. My point is the Bills improved their roster by cutting ties with players who are having no impact in the league AJ Klein - Not on a team Emmanuel Sanders - Retired Cole Beasley - Not on a team Darryl Williams - Not on a team Levi Wallace - 4th CB in Pittsburgh Star Loutilie - Retired I guess Harrison Phillips - Back-up DT in Minnesota Jerry Hughes - Back-up DE in Houston Vernon Butler - Cut by Raiders Matt Hawke - On Colts Bills moved on from those 12 players and improved the roster with new talent added thru the draft or free agency. 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Wow Jerry Hughes and Harrison Phillips are backups? Surprised. Would love to bring back Cole Beasley on a cheap 1 years deal. 1 3 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, wppete said: Would love to bring back Cole Beasley on a cheap 1 years deal. That bridge has clearly been burnt. Even if it wasn’t such a move would make zero sense. Shakir will most likely be better than Cole and he wasn’t even active. 5 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, wppete said: Wow Jerry Hughes and Harrison Phillips are backups? Surprised. Would love to bring back Cole Beasley on a cheap 1 years deal. Sounds like Beasley wanted out of Buffalo. Now that might have been based on his assumption his phone was going to be ringing off the hook last March. Now that it didn't happen, maybe he's thinking Buffalo doesn't sound that bad. Didn't realize that Wallace dropped down to #4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Feliciano - NYG - starting C Antonio Williams - NYG - 3rd RB Happy Williams made the 53 for the G-men. I like his running style. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Maybe I’m out of the loop or getting info from the wrong spots but Harrison is supposed to be the starting NT in Minnesota, Hughes starting in houston.. But to the point yes they moved on from some of the veterans, and probably one year too late for some of them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Von Miller just equaled the number of sacks (2) that Hughes had in 17 games last season. Jerry could get pressure, he just wasn’t bendy, fast, or strong enough to seal the deal. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, marck said: I was reviewing the injury list for Sunday and saw that Cody Ford is out for the Cardinals and Mario Addison is doubtful. My point is the Bills improved their roster by cutting ties with players who are having no impact in the league AJ Klein - Not on a team Emmanuel Sanders - Retired Cole Beasley - Not on a team Darryl Williams - Not on a team Levi Wallace - 4th CB in Pittsburgh Star Loutilie - Retired I guess Harrison Phillips - Back-up DT in Minnesota Jerry Hughes - Back-up DE in Houston Vernon Butler - Cut by Raiders Matt Hawke - On Colts Bills moved on from those 12 players and improved the roster with new talent added thru the draft or free agency. only "starters" being a Feliciano (for how long ?) and the punter whom the fanbase felt was "ungodly" and only got the opportunity in Indy when the incumbent got hurt... Edited September 10, 2022 by First Round Bust update 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, marck said: I was reviewing the injury list for Sunday and saw that Cody Ford is out for the Cardinals and Mario Addison is doubtful. My point is the Bills improved their roster by cutting ties with players who are having no impact in the league AJ Klein - Not on a team Emmanuel Sanders - Retired Cole Beasley - Not on a team Darryl Williams - Not on a team Levi Wallace - 4th CB in Pittsburgh Star Loutilie - Retired I guess Harrison Phillips - Back-up DT in Minnesota Jerry Hughes - Back-up DE in Houston Vernon Butler - Cut by Raiders Matt Hawke - On Colts Bills moved on from those 12 players and improved the roster with new talent added thru the draft or free agency. Hughes and Phillips are both pencilled in as starters to open the season. 5 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: only "starters" being a Feliciano (for how long ?) and the punter whom the fanbase felt was "ungodly" and only got the opportunity in Indy when the incumbent got hurt... And Hughes and Phillips. EDIT: you missed Mario Addison who IS a backup in Houston. Edited September 10, 2022 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, StHustle said: That bridge has clearly been burnt. Even if it wasn’t such a move would make zero sense. Shakir will most likely be better than Cole and he wasn’t even active. A rookie that didn't dress would most likely be better than a vet that caught 82 passes in each of the past 2 seasons? You can't make this ***** up. Edited September 10, 2022 by Beast 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Not disagreeing with the overall sentiment, but just because some of those guys aren't on a team it doesn't mean they aren't as talented as guys currently on rosters. A lot of it has to do with their age, salaries, the cap, and GMs preferring guys they drafted. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Im suprised Darryl Williams hasnt been picked up, he has gaurd/tackle flexibility and is decent at both 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Sounds like Beasley wanted out of Buffalo. Now that might have been based on his assumption his phone was going to be ringing off the hook last March. Now that it didn't happen, maybe he's thinking Buffalo doesn't sound that bad. Didn't realize that Wallace dropped down to #4 Very bad decision by Wallace, this one will haunt him for years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I could see the Bills bringing back Daryl Williams if we have an injury at guard before Ike Boettger is healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 56 minutes ago, wppete said: Wow Jerry Hughes and Harrison Phillips are backups? Surprised. Would love to bring back Cole Beasley on a cheap 1 years deal. Yes, don't think his house sold yet. Not too late to set up snow plowing for that long driveway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I'd consider Williams as a PS guy. But his body isn't built for football. Same with Feliciano. Butler would be the first call I'd make on DL if someone went down. The guy was serviceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) Hughes is supposedly starting in Houston, with Mario Addison backing him up. Edited September 10, 2022 by 947 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Why lie? google is easy. Hughes and Phillips are both starters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 56 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Sounds like Beasley wanted out of Buffalo. Now that might have been based on his assumption his phone was going to be ringing off the hook last March. Now that it didn't happen, maybe he's thinking Buffalo doesn't sound that bad. Didn't realize that Wallace dropped down to #4 He hasn't. He is the #1 backup on the outside. The #3 is the slot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 55 minutes ago, wppete said: Wow Jerry Hughes and Harrison Phillips are backups? Surprised. They aren't https://www.vikings.com/team/depth-chart https://www.houstontexans.com/team/depth-chart The op to whom you're replying is just trying to minimize the impact ex-Bills have on other rosters. He also left off Jon Feliciano, who is starting at C for the Giants 55 minutes ago, wppete said: Would love to bring back Cole Beasley on a cheap 1 years deal. Ah, No. First off, Beasley doesn't wanna play on a cheap deal. Second, the Bills need a slot receiver for the future. It's an important role in the Bills offense. Crowder is 4 years younger and McKenzie is 6 years, and they both need a chance to build rappore with Allen to see if they can hold down that role for now while Shakir develops for the future. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, WMDman said: Im suprised Darryl Williams hasnt been picked up, he has gaurd/tackle flexibility and is decent at both Guys, they’re not picking up so they don’t have to guarantee their salary for the year. Watch guys like D. Williams get picked up on Tuesday or the next week or two. Harry, Hughes, Feliciano are started and I thought Haack was Indy’s punter. This isn’t a bad thing. This means the Bills upgraded at key positions. That a huge positive for our Mgmt and coaching decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, marck said: I was reviewing the injury list for Sunday and saw that Cody Ford is out for the Cardinals and Mario Addison is doubtful. My point is the Bills improved their roster by cutting ties with players who are having no impact in the league AJ Klein - Not on a team Emmanuel Sanders - Retired Cole Beasley - Not on a team Darryl Williams - Not on a team Levi Wallace - 4th CB in Pittsburgh Star Loutilie - Retired I guess Harrison Phillips - Back-up DT in Minnesota Jerry Hughes - Back-up DE in Houston Vernon Butler - Cut by Raiders Matt Hawke - On Colts Bills moved on from those 12 players and improved the roster with new talent added thru the draft or free agency. I'm putting "disagree" not because your overall point isn't valid - the Bills moved on from guys where their price/performance point dropped off, and some of them aren't rostered (though that might change after opening day when salary not guaranteed) But because you're either not looking stuff up or you're deliberately misinforming/misleading Google is a thing Wrong on Phillips, Hughes, and Wallace and of course Haack is the Colt's starting punter, and Feliciano (who you don't mention) slated as starting C for the Giants Edited September 10, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, marck said: I was reviewing the injury list for Sunday and saw that Cody Ford is out for the Cardinals and Mario Addison is doubtful. My point is the Bills improved their roster by cutting ties with players who are having no impact in the league AJ Klein - Not on a team Emmanuel Sanders - Retired Cole Beasley - Not on a team Darryl Williams - Not on a team Levi Wallace - 4th CB in Pittsburgh Star Loutilie - Retired I guess Harrison Phillips - Back-up DT in Minnesota Jerry Hughes - Back-up DE in Houston Vernon Butler - Cut by Raiders Matt Hawke - On Colts Bills moved on from those 12 players and improved the roster with new talent added thru the draft or free agency. At this point, if any of those guys suddenly became available to the Bills I doubt any would be brought back. The exceptions to this might be Wallace as depth and maybe Horrible Harry for sentimental reasons and depth. None, one Trey is healthy, would crack the starting line up with the current Bill’s roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: At this point, if any of those guys suddenly became available to the Bills I doubt any would be brought back. The exceptions to this might be Wallace as depth and maybe Horrible Harry for sentimental reasons and depth. None, one Trey is healthy, would crack the starting line up with the current Bill’s roster. I could see us making an offer to AJ Klein if (avert) we have an injury at LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, marck said: I was reviewing the injury list for Sunday and saw that Cody Ford is out for the Cardinals and Mario Addison is doubtful. My point is the Bills improved their roster by cutting ties with players who are having no impact in the league AJ Klein - Not on a team Emmanuel Sanders - Retired Cole Beasley - Not on a team Darryl Williams - Not on a team Levi Wallace - 4th CB in Pittsburgh Star Loutilie - Retired I guess Harrison Phillips - Back-up DT in Minnesota Jerry Hughes - Back-up DE in Houston Vernon Butler - Cut by Raiders Matt Hawke - On Colts Bills moved on from those 12 players and improved the roster with new talent added thru the draft or free agency. I think you should do more research. Who is Matt Hawke? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: Yes, don't think his house sold yet. Not too late to set up snow plowing for that long driveway. He can shovel it by hand to keep in shape. 😁 15 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I'd consider Williams as a PS guy. But his body isn't built for football. Same with Feliciano. His is? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Von Miller just equaled the number of sacks (2) that Hughes had in 17 games last season. Jerry could get pressure, he just wasn’t bendy, fast, or strong enough to seal the deal. Opposing lineman can hold Hughes but cannot get away with that without Zebras calling a penalty. 13 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I'm putting "disagree" not because your overall point isn't valid - the Bills moved on from guys where their price/performance point dropped off, and some of them aren't rostered (though that might change after opening day when salary not guaranteed) But because you're either not looking stuff up or you're deliberately misinforming/misleading Google is a thing Wrong on Phillips, Hughes, and Wallace and of course Haack is the Colt's starting punter, and Feliciano (who you don't mention) slated as starting C for the Giants It appears OP listed players supporting his position and changed data on some OP did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Opposing lineman can hold Hughes but cannot get away with that without Zebras calling a penalty. "that" = holding Von? The other thing is that Von is such a beast he can't be held. He can either shove the OL right back into the QB, or bend enough to get them off balance. I loved Hughes but he just seemed as though he ran out of gas the last couple seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Very bad decision by Wallace, this one will haunt him for years Sounds like you're assuming the Bills tried to resign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, wppete said: Wow Jerry Hughes and Harrison Phillips are backups? Surprised. Would love to bring back Cole Beasley on a cheap 1 years deal. as much as I enjoyed his high catch % It really was time to move on. who signed hm BTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: as much as I enjoyed his high catch % It really was time to move on. who signed hm BTW? Nobody yet and he's definitely not coming back here given some of his recent twitter comments taking veiled shots at the Bills. He may just be waiting for the right opportunity as there's still juice left in that tank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 55 minutes ago, Rubes said: Not disagreeing with the overall sentiment, but just because some of those guys aren't on a team it doesn't mean they aren't as talented as guys currently on rosters. A lot of it has to do with their age, salaries, the cap, and GMs preferring guys they drafted. Bingo! You point out the flaw in the OP's thinking, though poor quality is a factor in some of the cases. Certainly not all though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Very bad decision by Wallace, this one will haunt him for years Sometimes these are blessings in disguise. Wallace leaving and White's injury forced Buffalo's hand to get younger at CB, which is a good thing cap and talent wise. The CBs (Jackson/ Elam/ Benford) will be seasoned and help acclimate the new S that will inevitably replace Poyer and Hyde in a season or two, with White and Johnson being the cagey higher priced vets. DL definitely got younger and less expensive at DE, other than the splash signing of Von Miller. Who wouldn't rather have Miller/ Rousseau/ Basham/ Epenessa/ Lawson than Hughes/ Addison/ Rousseau/ Basham/ Epenessa? Same can be said for the WR situation. Sanders disappearing after Halloween and Beasley forcing his way out made Buffalo get younger and cheaper at WR. Davis is now getting starter snaps with 2 seasons left on his rookie contract. McKenzie is getting his shot for more snaps and Shakir may be another sneaky late WR find. Crowder is a lower mid range vet insurance policy with Diggs being the higher priced vet. We are going to have to get used to the Bills losing guys who were important parts of the turnaround. As long as Beane and Co keep managing the salary and having a solid blend of picks and FA, of vets and new guys in each unit, they will be aok. I think Wallace knew he was always going to have a target on his back in Buffalo. I can't blame him for taking a 2 year contract with Pitt after getting 1 yr deals with Buffalo. He's a solid corner, but was replaceable. Same for most of the guys mentioned before. Edited September 10, 2022 by RocCityRoller 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Nobody yet and he's definitely not coming back here given some of his recent twitter comments taking veiled shots at the Bills. He may just be waiting for the right opportunity as there's still venom left in that tank. Corrected. He asked to be traded and Bills accommodated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 56 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I'd consider Williams as a PS guy. But his body isn't built for football. Same with Feliciano. You should have let the guys in the front office know this a couple of years ago, we'd have won a SB by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Nobody yet and he's definitely not coming back here given some of his recent twitter comments taking veiled shots at the Bills. He may just be waiting for the right opportunity as there's still juice left in that tank. I did see a tweet from him about Josh’s game Thursday. So, it’s not all negative 😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Corrected. He asked to be traded and Bills accommodated. That's great. What we'd get for him? Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: I did see a tweet from him about Josh’s game Thursday. So, it’s not all negative 😝 He's a complicated dude. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: He can shovel it by hand to keep in shape. 😁 His is? 🤔 Link to his only fans? I.... Uh ... Need to research 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Beast said: A rookie that didn't dress would most likely be better than a vet that caught 82 passes in each of the past 2 seasons? You can't make this ***** up. Um yeah….it’s called recognizing potential. Remember this 2 years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I'd love to bring D Williams back in and drop Van Roten or Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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