transplantbillsfan Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 A win. And Josh looked great despite a patchwork OL. Numbers not great but it's a Road primetime Win against a divisional opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Two words: That Throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, UKBillFan said: Two words: That Throw. Yep. The TD throw that didn't count was pretty darn nice, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: Pretty confident Allen will have about 10 straight seasons of 25+ passing and 5+ rushing TD's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) It's crazy that throws like that were never completed in the entire history of the NFL, and then two QBs who could do it regularly entered the league at the same time. Just like Manning and Brady, Mahomes and Allen are stylistically perfect rivals for each other. Edited December 2, 2022 by HappyDays 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) On 11/28/2022 at 5:30 PM, Cray51 said: I don’t understand why Travis Kelce isn’t in the running for MVP. He’s on pace for 1400 yards and 17 tds. I honestly think he is the most impactful player this year. It mostly goes to qbs…it’s a stupid award honestly lol someone like Jefferson or Kelce should def be able to win it but they won’t Edited December 2, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: It mostly goes to qbs…it’s a stupid award honestly lol someone like Jefferson or Kelce should def be able to win it but they won’t There is a reason why the QB's make twice as much money. Jefferson is probably the closest thing to a non QB MVP. 7 minutes ago, Warcodered said: .3 yards from the sideline when he jumped in the air. Pretty sure he was well over the sideline by the time the ball left his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 11/28/2022 at 6:52 AM, SirAndrew said: I don’t say this as a Bills homer, but I don’t understand the Jalen Hurts love. He’s a good QB, but not MVP level. The Eagles have an all around solid football team. Hurts throws for under 200 yards most games. Lamar 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Well that's an interesting title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 380 yards passing and 4 total TD's today for Hurts. Hurts has to be strongly in the discussion now for MVP. Maybe the leader after this weeks games. #1 seed continues to be the number one determing factor in an MVP and he has that on lock down in the NFC. His stats are really good too. I think he probably only trails Mahomes and Allen in total TD's. And he's one of the league leaders in passer rating. Allen still has a good shot as well. The KC loss opens things up quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Mahomes still #1, Hurts closing in. Allen would have to play out of his mind the next month and I would say not possible but we have seen him play like that in stretches. Was hoping for more consistency this year unfortunately. Maybe it was the elbow who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Mahomes still #1, Hurts closing in. Allen would have to play out of his mind the next month and I would say not possible but we have seen him play like that in stretches. Was hoping for more consistency this year unfortunately. Maybe it was the elbow who knows Agreed…seemed like mahomes opened the door a crack today though. I thought Allen was 100% done now I’m not so sure. seems like josh is healthier too so I’d imagine he’s gonna play better down the stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Right now this is Jalen Hurts award to lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Only MVP that will mater is the SuperBowl MVP - I like his odds to win that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Allen isn’t gonna win it because the coaches are playing a lot more conservatively now once the Bills get up. Much more running and eating the clock when we get up 2 scores. At the beginning of the year Allen was still taking shots down the field in those scenarios and running up the score. I also think the defense is getting healthy and gonna lock it down in December. He just isn’t going to need to throw it all over the place for the Bills to win. If Hurts wins, it will be a team win. He’s a system QB for sure. Allen, Mahomes, and many other QBs are asked to do a lot more (even Lamar with a similar style). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Allen isn’t gonna win it because the coaches are playing a lot more conservatively now once the Bills get up. Much more running and eating the clock when we get up 2 scores. At the beginning of the year Allen was still taking shots down the field in those scenarios and running up the score. I also think the defense is getting healthy and gonna lock it down in December. He just isn’t going to need to throw it all over the place for the Bills to win. If Hurts wins, it will be a team win. He’s a system QB for sure. Allen, Mahomes, and many other QBs are asked to do a lot more (even Lamar with a similar style). Josh is back to being better than his stats, the Pats* game we had a broken right tackle and he still was incredible and his threat is a large part of why we ran so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Patrick Mahomes +125 Jalen Hurts +150 Joe Burrow +800 Josh Allen +1100 Tua Tagovailoa +1400 Geno Smith +6000 Tyreek Hill +7500 Dak Prescott +10000 Kirk Cousins +10000 Mahomes still clinging to the lead, Hurts right on his heels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, QCity said: Patrick Mahomes +125 Jalen Hurts +150 Joe Burrow +800 Josh Allen +1100 Tua Tagovailoa +1400 Geno Smith +6000 Tyreek Hill +7500 Dak Prescott +10000 Kirk Cousins +10000 Mahomes still clinging to the lead, Hurts right on his heels. Burrow/Allen at +800/+1100 are intriguing value bets. Mahomes and the chiefs have the broncos twice who have a good defense and the raiders once who always play them tough. hurts could be sitting out week 17 the way things are going but there’s no chance Allen/burrow/mahomes will be doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Don’t care too much about the award either way, but if the Bills win out and clinch the #1 seed Josh Allen is going to be the top choice for MVP or a close second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 As long as I know we have Josh, I really don't care what anyone else thinks. That award means nothing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Don’t care too much about the award either way, but if the Bills win out and clinch the #1 seed Josh Allen is going to be the top choice for MVP or a close second. Josh won’t enter as a serious contender again unless he both throttles Miami and Cincy. He needs big games during big matchups to get the attention again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 I'd rather Josh get Super Bowl MVP than League MVP. Let Hurts, Macaulay, or Kermit take the regular season hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 2:38 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: 380 yards passing and 4 total TD's today for Hurts. Hurts has to be strongly in the discussion now for MVP. Maybe the leader after this weeks games. #1 seed continues to be the number one determing factor in an MVP and he has that on lock down in the NFC. His stats are really good too. I think he probably only trails Mahomes and Allen in total TD's. And he's one of the league leaders in passer rating. Allen still has a good shot as well. The KC loss opens things up quite a bit. Hurts is obviously right there. He just trails Mahomes and Allen quite a bit in terms of total yards. Always funny that this becomes such a numbers focused race, but that's the reality of it. Wonder what Allen's current numbers would have been if he played the entire Titans and Steelers games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Not sure who will win the Award, but Allen is the MVP and it is not even close. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 2:41 PM, KDIGGZ said: Mahomes still #1, Hurts closing in. Allen would have to play out of his mind the next month and I would say not possible but we have seen him play like that in stretches. Was hoping for more consistency this year unfortunately. Maybe it was the elbow who knows Kinda think it's gonna hurt Mahomes just a tiny bit that he lost to both Burrow and Allen in the head to head. And don't look now, but Mahomes and Allen are pretty close in every statistical category. Allen's problem, of course, is that he has almost double the turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 9 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Burrow/Allen at +800/+1100 are intriguing value bets. Mahomes and the chiefs have the broncos twice who have a good defense and the raiders once who always play them tough. hurts could be sitting out week 17 the way things are going but there’s no chance Allen/burrow/mahomes will be doing that Josh could be sitting week 17 if they won the next 4 and KC loses another 1. Week 17 vs NE would then be meaningless as we’d have the #1 seed along with the AFC East wrapped up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 remember, Bills have three homes games remaining, plus one at Soldier Field and one at Paul Brown in Cincy. Might be some tough sledding as far as weather conditions are concerned for our aerial attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 13 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Hurts is obviously right there. He just trails Mahomes and Allen quite a bit in terms of total yards. Always funny that this becomes such a numbers focused race, but that's the reality of it. Wonder what Allen's current numbers would have been if he played the entire Titans and Steelers games... The most important number is always #1, as in #1 seed. Every year multiple QB's will have eye popping numbers. Only one in each conference will have the #1 seed. And when you get a year when one QB is 16-1 or 15-2 and the other QB's are all sitting on 3 or 4 losses that often ends up being a determining factor. 13 hours ago, RiotAct said: remember, Bills have three homes games remaining, plus one at Soldier Field and one at Paul Brown in Cincy. Might be some tough sledding as far as weather conditions are concerned for our aerial attack. Allen needs to start piling on the TD's then over total yards. 13 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Kinda think it's gonna hurt Mahomes just a tiny bit that he lost to both Burrow and Allen in the head to head. As it should in my opinion. I think Mahomes only way back is retaining the #1 seed by the end of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 13 hours ago, RiotAct said: remember, Bills have three homes games remaining, plus one at Soldier Field and one at Paul Brown in Cincy. Might be some tough sledding as far as weather conditions are concerned for our aerial attack. Which is why focusing as much as they do on stats for MVP isn't warranted IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Turnovers matter and being careless with the ball hurt his chances. In 6 games since the BYE, Allen has 8 TD passes, 7 INTs, and 4 games with a QB rating of 80 or lower. He’s going to need a really good stretch of games where he puts up big numbers to seriously get back in the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 12:30 AM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: There is a reason why the QB's make twice as much money. Jefferson is probably the closest thing to a non QB MVP. Diggs has better stats than Jefferson. Jefferson has been held to less than 50 yards in 4 games this season. Diggs only once. Jefferson has 1200 yards and 6 TD's, while Diggs has 1200 yards and 10 TD's. I know Jefferson is a great WR, but people are acting like he is in a class of his own. He's not. In fact, our very own Stefon Diggs is having just as good of a season, and probably better. You can point to QB play, but Cousins has always been a stat aggregator. He gets his guy the ball. On 12/5/2022 at 10:25 AM, H2o said: I'd rather Josh get Super Bowl MVP than League MVP. Let Hurts, Macaulay, or Kermit take the regular season hardware. Why not both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 hours ago, MJS said: Diggs has better stats than Jefferson. Jefferson has been held to less than 50 yards in 4 games this season. Diggs only once. Jefferson has 1200 yards and 6 TD's, while Diggs has 1200 yards and 10 TD's. I know Jefferson is a great WR, but people are acting like he is in a class of his own. He's not. In fact, our very own Stefon Diggs is having just as good of a season, and probably better. You can point to QB play, but Cousins has always been a stat aggregator. He gets his guy the ball. You're right Diggs is right there with Jefferson. I was kind of taking the QB into account maybe too much. I thought the three first team all pro wr's this year were set but in Diggs, Hill and Jefferson but now Adams is making a strong push. 12TD's, 79 receptions and nearly 1200 yards. There is going to be a very deserving WR left off of first team all pro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 44 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: You're right Diggs is right there with Jefferson. I was kind of taking the QB into account maybe too much. I thought the three first team all pro wr's this year were set but in Diggs, Hill and Jefferson but now Adams is making a strong push. 12TD's, 79 receptions and nearly 1200 yards. There is going to be a very deserving WR left off of first team all pro. Yep. There is some great talent at receiver in the AFC. Diggs, I think, is the most consistent and reliable of them all, though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Just now, NUT said: Mahomes is running away with this award. Allens' stats today puts him even further behind. I don't know has Mahomes jumped off a guy like a goomba in a Mario game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 This thread probably should be closed. Allen's stats aren't going to cut it for the MVP race at this stage. 7 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I don't know has Mahomes jumped off a guy like a goomba in a Mario game? No . Instead Mahomes got a super mushroom. So he is a bit out of reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Let Mahomes win the award. Burrow and Allen will use this as fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 I still think Hurts will get it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 I just don't think Allen wins, it, but by the very definition he is. How many dropped passes today? How much incompetence at playcalling? Yet... W!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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