Process Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, skibum said: Wow, just when you think Stephen A. Smith can't be any dumber. Trying to make it like Mahomes' game against the Bills was qualified MVP material. Those two picks were bruuuutal! Until last week, any reasonable person could have given Mahomes the edge, based on his career, 13 seconds, and continued stellar play. He was the reigning MVP candidate until proven otherwise, and that proof was delivered last Sunday. How much evidence do you need? It's a debate show. It's entertainment. Not actual opinions. They can't all just say Josh Allen, even though everyone knows he is the clear MVP, even Stephen A. It's clear in his answer that he's just making up crap to have a differing opinion for the purpose of the show. 4 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: It occurred to me this week that the KC game might be the difference in MVP voting. If both guys are pretty even the rest of the way that game will most likely be the deciding factor It was huge. Being the 1 seed is a big factor in the MVP race. Edited October 27, 2022 by Process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 ... Oh well, he'll have to make up for it against the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Yea that 2nd half won't help. But because the team won it will likely get lost in the shuffle come MVP voting time. But that was his worst game of the year. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Gotta flush this turd and destroy the Jets next week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: MVP numbers took a hit with this one... I swear you sit on this thread and wait for any possibility to suggest Josh isn’t good enough to be MVP. “No, I just tell you how the voters think.” Cool, Gene. Appreciate the perspective from a guy casting a ballot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Allen is winning MVP as long as we end up the #1 seed. One sloppy half changes nothing. Everyone knows he is the main reason we are a Super Bowl contender and he beat his only competition head to head. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Allen is winning MVP as long as we end up the #1 seed. One sloppy half changes nothing. Everyone knows he is the main reason we are a Super Bowl contender and he beat his only competition head to head. If Allen gets the #1 seed and finishes strong you gotta like his chances. The best thing is there is no way we get the #1 seed without solid Allen performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 It will be interesting how much turnovers play into it at the end of the year. I can see Allen leading all volume stats, but also having more turnovers than Mahomes or Hurts. H2H win against the Chiefs really helps the narrative I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 In Order - distance apart illustrated Allen Mahomes Tyreek Hurts Henry Burrow And that’s it. That’s the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Turnovers are def an issue if Mahomes finishes with similar record and numbers... Allen just has too many, already. He has one more than Mahomes after the same number of games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Turnovers are def an issue if Mahomes finishes with similar record and numbers... Allen just has too many, already. It is not a big deal if he does not win the MVP....As long as we can win the SB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: And iirc Mahomes has more passing TD's. One more. Include rushing and Josh is one ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Allen is still in the front, but he can’t have too many 2 pick games. It’s ok to throw 1, but 2 picks per game is nasty. Allen needed to throw that 2nd pick into the dirt and take 3 points. It made the game interesting, but I would have preferred 3 points. Going up 30-17 puts the game effectively out of reach. 13/25 2 TDs 2 picks is a below MVP game. If Allen wants to win MVP he needs to play smarter football. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Such a weird game. Buffalo clearly the dominant team. Allen clearly the dominant QB. Yet, he missed multiple throws he typically routinely hits and threw 2 pretty boneheaded interceptions. And don't accuse me of being overly critical... Josh said so himself. Personally, I expect him to have a spectacular bounce back game next week 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 And to be clear, Josh is still the frontrunner for MVP. He was just so friggin far ahead before tonight's game he allowed the rest of the pack to catch up a little. As a tangent, I find posts like this humorous, don't you? Except this excludes rushing... kinda matters here. Josh 7407 yards Burrow 6956 yards Josh 322 YPG Burrow 302 YPG Josh 61 TDs Burrow 54 TDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Well at least we all agree Aaron Rodgers isn't winning it 3 years in a row. Josh knows tonight's 2nd half he played poorly. He'll make up for it against the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Gene1973 said: MVP numbers took a hit with this one... A hit... yet despite a mediocre game by his standards he's still the frontrunner... go figure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Just now, transplantbillsfan said: A hit... yet despite a mediocre game by his standards he's still the frontrunner... go figure... This was the first week of this season where I’m expecting his MVP betting odds to blow out… Edited October 31, 2022 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Gotta flush this turd and destroy the Jets next week I just love that we're saying the turd is a 10 point W over the reigning NFL MVP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Gene1973 said: I would agree with this. But this thread is about MVP, so giving my thoughts on that. Also, I know that passing TD's have always trumped rushing TD's when voting for this award (for QB's), but there seems to be movement on this due to all the multifacited QB's now. This just shows ignorance on your part considering Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson. What trumps everything is team record because th QB on the winningest team has the greatest chance to win NFL MVP. And to establish objectivity since you brought it up, were "corrected" but didn't realize you were corrected incorrectly... you're right, Josh has more Turnovers than Patrick. It's 3 more, not 1. There were 2 fumbles lost credited to him... fairly or unfairly. However, Josh has 1 more TD, pretty dead even on yards and most importantly is on the team that has the better record and won the head to head thanks to him, rather than in spite of him. Josh still clearly in the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: And to be clear, Josh is still the frontrunner for MVP. He was just so friggin far ahead before tonight's game he allowed the rest of the pack to catch up a little. As a tangent, I find posts like this humorous, don't you? Except this excludes rushing... kinda matters here. Josh 7407 yards Burrow 6956 yards Josh 322 YPG Burrow 302 YPG Josh 61 TDs Burrow 54 TDs It also excludes the bills being through the meat of their schedule this year…we have some blowouts of bad teams incoming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Turnovers are def an issue if Mahomes finishes with similar record and numbers... Allen just has too many, already. That is horse ***** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I'd have to go back and look at thier numbers, but iirc Jackson had crazy passing stats in his MVP season as well as rushing. There is also other factors with these two QB's and the voting. Josh Allen has had two games where he played so well he didn’t even play in the fourth quarter the people that vote for MVP are not as stupid as you’re making them out to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: It also excludes the bills being through the meat of their schedule this year…we have some blowouts of bad teams incoming. Plus Josh sitting for about 10% of the season already due to blowouts 55 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I'd have to go back and look at thier numbers, but iirc Jackson had crazy passing stats in his MVP season as well as rushing. There is also other factors with these two QB's and the voting. It would have taken you less time to look this up than type this post. You understand why everyone just looks at you as a troll, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) He fell back in the MVP race. Still in the lead but his lead got tighter. Edited October 31, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Josh is so much better when he runs, and he turned down some 3rd down scrambles and other runs last night to save on contact. I certainly don't mind. We all need this man to be healthy for the playoffs.. but a few drives would have been kept alive had he run more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 18 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: It also excludes the bills being through the meat of their schedule this year…we have some blowouts of bad teams incoming. Our next 2 games are against teams a combined 11-4 …….the first 7 games gauntlet is actually 9 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Our next 2 games are against teams a combined 11-4 …….the first 7 games gauntlet is actually 9 😎 Yeah but one of those teams is the Jets. Allen should have a big day against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Josh Allen next game: 5 Touchdowns, zero INT vs New York Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Motor26 said: Yeah but one of those teams is the Jets. Allen should have a big day against them. The Jets are gonna be tough to rack up the score on. Think they are 6th in yards and 11th in points. They are a good defense this year. Quinnen Williams is having his best year as a pro, CJ Mosley is finally the guy they paid for, Carl Lawson is active off the edge and not unlike the Bills the edge rushers come at you in waves with rotational guys who can make plays. They also have a totally overhauled secondary with Joyner and Whitehead at safety and DJ Reed and Sauce at corner. Their defense is legit. Luckily their offense remains a bit of a mess and their QB self destructs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Then 3 TDs, 0 INT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Bump hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Josh had an ass game today, no way around it, he was able to turn to his legs for some offense but the passing and conventional running game was just bad. This team has to figure some things out offensively 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Josh should not be a front runner anymore. 6 quarters of terrible play that lost us a game and kept another mediocre team in the game. Way too inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Most MVPs have a couple stinkers. Allen still had 2 TDs. End the season on a high note and it's his, despite what some emotional fans might say this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Allen has thrown 9 picks in 8 games. Say what you want but that is not MVP caliber play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Any reason he always rolls out to right vs left? The Jets knew he was going to roll right and predicted it many times causing issues with throwing. He's becoming a little predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 He is going to really have to step it up over the last half of the year because he hasn't looked good for 6 quarters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 And this thread bites the dust for another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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