C.Biscuit97 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 This will switch every week. Right now, it’s Lamar. If Allen plays well and Bills win, it will be Josh. side note, I’m really happy for Hurts. Seems very similar to the Allen story of people writing him off right away and constantly improving. He’s playing great right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Allen leading the NFL in passing yards, and is on pace for over 5700 this year...I'm sure late season weather games in Buffalo may limit that some, but he is going to shatter his own record at this rate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 9 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Yeah go spend 3+ hours running for your life in the sun on a field that's 112 degrees and lets see how routine those plays really are then. The kid played his heart out. Both can be true. There is no question about Josh’s effort or heart. However , he failed to execute a simple play and his reaction showed that he knew it. He would tell anyone if asked that he should have made the throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: Interesting how you guys all start out with "I love Josh"......BUT...... before crapping all over the guy. Allen was exhausted at that point which alone would explain the misfire. On top of that I suspect that something was wrong with his throwing hand. Didn't they show trainers massaging Allen's hand after that series and didn't they take him for x-rays immediately after the game? There are a small number of Bills fans who hated the Allen draft pick and who then spent two years tripling down on how much Allen sucked. They ignored the clear signs of improvement until in his 3rd year he ascended into MVP territory and they had to swallow their bile. But man they come out of the woodwork every time Allen misfires. Remember after the NE game last season where Allen missed a game winning pass late? They all cried that he "choked" while ignoring the impact of gale force winds. At least these people should have the decency to wait until Allen actually plays a crappy game like at Jacksonville. It would still be the wrong take but at least would be in the realm of reality. Criticizing Allen's performance against the Dolphins, given the circumstances, is pure insanity. Spare me this ^. I never crapped on him and I understand the heroic effort he put forth once again. Nothing I said ever had anything to do with the Josh draft pick. The whole subject was does this game impact his MVP status? My take is one play in week 3 of the season is not going to do that. However, my point was the Football media shows that play, the one hopper to McKenzie, over and over. I watch them literally show it 10 times in a row on NHL Network before the Monday Night game. I had lunch with a work colleague yesterday and said the "only play he saw was the bounce pass on an NFL highlight program". I just got out of a meeting and heard the same thing about him missing that pass. I am not criticizing his performance on Sunday, I am pointing out the media spin and how the rest of the country gets programmed by it. I still think we have a shot of winning every time he plays and that he could be an MVP someday. Edited September 27, 2022 by Bob in STL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Stop. Just stop. You're making a fool of yourself This is an open forum is it not? learn how to deal with opposing views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: This is an open forum is it not? learn how to deal with opposing views Your agenda is blinding you. Pretty sure agendas on this board violate CoC. Just ignore me already. Save yourself some face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 what is this argument even about??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: what is this argument even about??? I am supposed to believe some random guy on the internet over Professionals. I was just posting that getting these “awards” doesn’t mean they can or will win it all. Lamar is another 🔥 prospect for having the the most TD’s through 3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 https://sports.yahoo.com/lamar-jacksons-bet-on-himself-is-mvp-caliber-so-far-182549855.html Lamar Jackson's bet on himself is MVP-caliber so far Quote Jackson isn’t just the face of this franchise, he is the reason why the Baltimore Ravens have been able to be one of the most explosive offenses through the first three weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 43 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: I am supposed to believe some random guy on the internet over Professionals. No, you're supposed to do your own work rather than believing what other people say. Cross reference and confirm things that other people tell you. Here are links to 3 websites that are not "random guy(s)" on the Internet you should have looked at after hearing whatever you heard from "Professionals" before making a fool of yourself here. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/awards/ap-nfl-mvp-award.htm http://www.espn.com/nfl/superbowl/history/winners http://www.espn.com/nfl/superbowl/history/mvps Maybe you should stop doubling and tripling down. It's a bad look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HappyDays Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 6 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said: Allen was exhausted at that point which alone would explain the misfire. On top of that I suspect that something was wrong with his throwing hand. Didn't they show trainers massaging Allen's hand after that series and didn't they take him for x-rays immediately after the game? He hesitated for half a second in the middle of his mechanics and then kept going without resetting his feet. Like he double clutched the pass. I don't think exhaustion explains the poor mechanics, but the heat combined with his distrust in the pass protection may have affected his concentration in the moment. We've seen him reset his mechanics before. In that moment he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: https://sports.yahoo.com/lamar-jacksons-bet-on-himself-is-mvp-caliber-so-far-182549855.html Lamar Jackson's bet on himself is MVP-caliber so far The game next Sunday between Buffalo and Baltimore will have a major impact on the MVP race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: The game next Sunday between Buffalo and Baltimore will have a major impact on the MVP race. that could be very possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 22 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: then you need to tell the entire cast of GMFB AND Kurt Warner and a few others that made the statement on NATIONAL TV google SB curse Who has time for believing in curses when we have a QB that defeated the entirety of math itself, on a team that outsmarted basically all regular humans. Curse smursh..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 13 hours ago, SCBills said: This past Sunday.. Rodgers and Brady played in a game that set offensive football back years. Mahomes put 17 on the board in a dome. If you can't get the point, that's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: He hesitated for half a second in the middle of his mechanics and then kept going without resetting his feet. Like he double clutched the pass. I don't think exhaustion explains the poor mechanics, but the heat combined with his distrust in the pass protection may have affected his concentration in the moment. We've seen him reset his mechanics before. In that moment he didn't. If you don't think exhaustion explains poor mechanics you've never played sports in your life. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 From Jim Kubiac: ‘If you measure Josh Allen’s performance through the prism of Vince Lombardi’s famous quote, “The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have,” then you have just witnessed one of the greatest quarterback performances of the ages. Consider: Allen completed 42 of 63 attempts; threw for 400 yards; ran 90 plays in massive heat conditions; threw two touchdowns; and willed the Bills into scoring opportunities without starting center Mitch Morse and replacement Greg Van Roten. He did all that without a healthy Gabe Davis, with a limited Dawson Knox and Stefon Diggs, and without Jake Kumerow, who injured his leg early in the first half. Greg Mancz finished the game as the emergency center, while all eight offensive linemen who dressed played critical minutes in game filled with personnel chaos.’ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Just goes to show how ratings do not tell the whole story. His weakest passer rater by quite a margin today, at 68.4, but that's mostly not on him. And I don't think anyone can deny he basically carried our offense to the win today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Just goes to show how ratings do not tell the whole story. His weakest passer rater by quite a margin today, at 68.4, but that's mostly not on him. And I don't think anyone can deny he basically carried our offense to the win today. if done properly, no can defend 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 The only stat from today that will help him in the MVP race is the W. Meanwhile Lamar made a crucial error and picked up the L 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Just goes to show how ratings do not tell the whole story. His weakest passer rater by quite a margin today, at 68.4, but that's mostly not on him. And I don't think anyone can deny he basically carried our offense to the win today. 100%. Allen certainly didn’t have a great game by his standards, but he is the reason we won, as usual. Stats don’t tell the whole story. Seems half of Josh’s games are in crap weather… and today I couldn’t even count the number of WR drops on two hands. When the dude needed to make a play, he made it. That’s what MVP’s do. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 Wow! So last week despite a Herculean effort on Allen’s part some posters latched onto a single missed pass. Today was I think a fairly mediocre game by Allen--though he wasn't helped AT ALL by his WRs--yet he executes his greatest come from behind victory of his career. Sooo... guessing these posters are loving him this week...??? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 If josh is around the top for mvp odds in the first half of the year he’s almost definitely winning it imo. Like what even is this schedule to start the season…. Rams on the road, titans at home, dolphins road, ravens road, easy ish game against the Steelers finally, then chiefs road and packers home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Today was I think a fairly mediocre game by Allen I don't think he was mediocre. He had a really shaky first drive and other than that played lights out in a tough weather environment. Every drive that stalled was because of a dropped pass, a stupid play call, or poor protection. Not only did Allen play steady in a game where a single bad pass could have turned the momentum, he also made a couple superstar/MVP plays to keep drives going and put points on the board. We all know Allen can have his way with defenses when his supporting cast is clicking. Today he proved he can rise above the mistakes of his teammates and still find a way to gut out a win. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I don't think he was mediocre. He had a really shaky first drive and other than that played lights out in a tough weather environment. Every drive that stalled was because of a dropped pass, a stupid play call, or poor protection. Not only did Allen play steady in a game where a single bad pass could have turned the momentum, he also made a couple superstar/MVP plays to keep drives going and put points on the board. We all know Allen can have his way with defenses when his supporting cast is clicking. Today he proved he can rise above the mistakes of his teammates and still find a way to gut out a win. Allen has his own bar set for himself. Some passes were off and he put too much heat on some others that our WRs should still have caught. I didn't say or mean Allen was bad. But he was better last week in a L. Allen is why we won today, obviously. He's also why we were in the game last week. I actually think he's the MVP a quarter of the way through the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 MVP is the most valuable player not best stats… If Allen isn’t the most valuable player I don’t know who is 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Best player in the league. That first down run along the left sideline was classic Russell Wilson. I get such a kick out of guys falling for the pump fake well past the LOS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Today was I think a fairly mediocre game by Allen-- BWAAHAHAHAHHAAA OMG Allen was OFF because of tipped balls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Josh didn't have a "one score monkey" on his back. He's been Captain Clutch since he's been here. He's had a couple that have gotten away, but this isn't the first time he's led us to victory in the last minutes of a game. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Just now, H2o said: Josh didn't have a "one score monkey" on his back. He's been Captain Clutch since he's been here. He's had a couple that have gotten away, but this isn't the first time he's led us to victory in the last minutes of a game. it’s amazing how people are not giving Josh credit today 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Just like any QB he had some missed throws but this game there were a lot of drops (by both teams) and a lot of tipped balls (think at least 3?). Thought he settled in and played well starting at 1 minute left of the 1st half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Wow! So last week despite a Herculean effort on Allen’s part some posters latched onto a single missed pass. Today was I think a fairly mediocre game by Allen--though he wasn't helped AT ALL by his WRs--yet he executes his greatest come from behind victory of his career. Sooo... guessing these posters are loving him this week...??? I think 80% of his incomplete passes were dropped or tipped today. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Hurts will be the flavor of the week but Allen will be the last man standing by season's end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I thought todays game for Allen was better than last weeks. And the QBR stat confirms that. More often than not QBR matches what my eyes see versus the old standard passer rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I didn't get to see this play. Anyone have the full clip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: MVP is the most valuable player not best stats… If Allen isn’t the most valuable player I don’t know who is MVP is the player that a select few journalists select. It's a personality contest skewed by major media markets. If the vote were today: it would be Tua, or an Eagle, or a Ram, or a Charger. Actual contribution on the field is of secondary consideration. EDIT UPDATE: there's a mix of reality and sarcasm in my reply. Sorry for the mix up. Edited October 3, 2022 by boater explain the post 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I didn't get to see this play. Anyone have the full clip? This one? Oops this one Edited October 3, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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